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Is Gaga unappreciative of the role of business in the art industry?


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It seems to me that there is always this battle between creative people and business people. There is this perception that creative people want free reign to express their ideas and dislike structure or control. The business people try to channel creativity and manage it in such a way to make the output appeal to an audience. There is this relentless push and pull for power over the creative output. Creativity is about freedom and business is about control. But these two disciplines have to work together to create work that is useful or needed in society. What is the point of creating art that isn't relevant and never gets seen or heard?

I do understand how creativity can be stifled by business. Gaga talks about how she doesn't like to be reactionary with her work, meaning she doesn't want her work to cater to what the public wants, because all that muddles her own perspective. I respect that and I agree with her not wanting to be put in any type of box. I just see the other side as well. Without all the positioning,  manipulation, research into her audience, suggestion, ect behind her, nobody would know who she is. She wouldn't have a voice in the world.  It doesn't make sense to me to be so stuck in your own perspective that you lose touch with where your work fits in with the world or the void that your work fills (i don't even think she does that though). 

And im not really talking about marketing. Im talking about the influence the business side has in the creation of creative content. 

I could be misunderstanding her. If she does feel this way, its probably because she has been "burnt" by the business end by being overly controlled, overworked, ect. I'm sure Gaga does appreciate the business side in some sense. But, based on some of the things she has said in the past, it just seems to me that she feels like the business aspect of the music industry is ruining artistry, and she is dismissive of the importance of strategy.

I guess the real debate is about artistic integrity and the purpose of art. Is it more important to create the vision in your head without any regard to reception, or try to expand the reach of your art? Where is the balance between the two ends of the spectrum?

Im struggling with this in my own life and im not really sure if I conveyed my point. But, I think this is an interesting conversation to have. 

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I think a lot of creative people feel this way. I took a creative advertising class over the summer and my teacher said that being on a creative team in an ad agency is the complete opposite to being on an account (business) team. I think what he said is ridiculous and ironic considering advertising is all about promoting products :huh:

 

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Mona Vanderwaal
2 minutes ago, oliphanty said:

I think her biggest problem is she's pretty talentless at everything but singing, writing and performing but doesn't have the self awareness to see it.

I agree.

She needs to stick to her talent - music. Everything else is better if she has a team of talented people to help her, and that's OKAY. She is a musician, not a creative director. 

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KarmaPolice
2 minutes ago, oliphanty said:

I think her biggest problem is she's pretty talentless at everything but singing, writing and performing but doesn't have the self awareness to see it.

Bought you a ticket.  BYE.

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REALITY

Art is subjective. Creativity is subjective. All of the things that make up art are subjective and overall revolve around the creativity of the artist. The business aspect ruins that to some extent. I completely understand and agree with what Gaga has said in the past about how business can stifle a musician's creativity.

Let's also remember, art is made so that the artist can enjoy their art. They love art because they love to make art. And, when I say "artist", I'm talking about the musician, the poet, the painter, the sculptor, etc. etc. Art isn't and shouldn't be made to please somebody, in my opinion. Then again, like I said, art is subjective, and it's completely reliant on the artist, so if the artist believes they need to create art to please and garner more people, then that's on them; I just don't agree with that sentiment.

The reason why Gaga became as big as she was was because of her art and creativity. Yes, there were people who were similar to her in the past; however, she herself has revolutionized the music industry and popular culture. 

 

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REALITY
39 minutes ago, oliphanty said:

I think her biggest problem is she's pretty talentless at everything but singing, writing and performing but doesn't have the self awareness to see it.

So her activism and her want to fight for what's right just isn't a big deal, right?

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RonnieGagz

I think that making art just because you want it's recognition is not really making art.

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HOTNebraskaGuy
10 minutes ago, oliphanty said:

I think her biggest problem is she's pretty talentless at everything but singing, writing and performing but doesn't have the self awareness to see it.

And what are you talented at? :giggle:

Acting like you know who's talented at what? 

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Yes, she's definitely unappreciative and needs to start appreciating the business aspect of her work because her being in the driving seat of her music car isn't working out too well for her. 

She has special snowflake syndrome where she thinks her creativity in music is unique and special and she needs to be fully in control of it when what she should be doing is listening to business people more often. 

People get famous and become rich and think their talent is superior and can do no wrong, and in reality all they are is good singers, and some good song writers but not good business people. They need to sit down and spin - gaga included 

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ryanripley

i'm not entirely sure what this is about but look at his gif

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JustAnotherDay

I think she just doesn't care, she very much just seems to create work that she enjoys and leaves it to her team to promote it. 

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The Surrealist
Just now, ryanripley said:

i'm not entirely sure what this is about but look at his gif

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Eyeopening experience.

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Katie14
Just now, NickARTPOP said:

I think she just doesn't care, she very much just seems to create work that she enjoys and leaves it to her team to promote it. 

Im not talking about promotion though. Im talking about the influence the business side has in the creation of her art. 

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MonsterMum
Just now, NickARTPOP said:

I think she just doesn't care, she very much just seems to create work that she enjoys and leaves it to her team to promote it. 

So it was her team performing MR at the AMAs, SMAPxSMAP, Royal Variety Show, Happy Hour, SNL, Carpool Karaoke and X Factor (not sure if I remembered them all)?

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