Evan Peters 10,738 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 What's it like getting worked up over a music video? I have a life, so I don't have experience with the whole "im over a pop star because they made something I don't like" mentality emma roberts is an abuser Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkSpectre0 547 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 7 hours ago, Lona Delery said: That's a stupid and bad comparison. It would work if we weren't stanning Gaga, but it does not make sense at all like this. If you want to compare, then Gaga is our favorite TV shows but the latest season has parts that suck and we express our disappointment about it. And, y'know, there are people who do not jump ship just because the last few months were subpar to the rest of Gaga's career, but that's maybe a hard concept to grasp. I don't think people should jump ship I just think if you enjoyed past eras better why not just keep enjoying those. When you repeatedly speak negativity about the eras you dislike it seems like a waste of your time. Why spend so much time talking about what you dislike? People on here call themselves stans when they don't stan. They did in a past era and they have an idea of gaga in their head they Stan for but they seem pretty Anti what she is doing right now. And they're mad at gaga for not doing what they've been imagining Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpookyKid 15,153 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 hour ago, SEANGT said: can everyone stop acting like they have a deep true loving connection with a person they've never met? It's cringey. You can admire her and respect her but sometimes the sentiment goes too far. When that person's music is the only thing you had at some point in your life you develop feelings I love this woman with all my heart, and she doesn't deserve the hate she gets criticism ≠ hating on her work without bringing some constructive criticism like a lot of members do Life has a hopeful undertone |-/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lona Delery 7,214 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, SilkSpectre0 said: I don't think people should jump ship I just think if you enjoyed past eras better why not just keep enjoying those. When you repeatedly speak negativity about the eras you dislike it seems like a waste of your time. Why spend so much time talking about what you dislike? People on here call themselves stans when they don't stan. They did in a past era and they have an idea of gaga in their head they Stan for but they seem pretty Anti what she is doing right now. And they're mad at gaga for not doing what they've been imagining I don't get your point. So you can only be a stan if you lick Gaga's ass and eat everything? If she doesn't live up to our expectations, we are not stans? While I agree that it's a waste of time to constantly open threads with hate - isn't it also a waste of time for the people who enjoy the era (or others who pretend to like it) to answer to those people or also open a thread for any negative one that pops up? My problem, and I think that is also the one with a lot of people, is that Gaga took 3 years to release another album, an album which she began working on this year. In 2016. If it was 2014 or early 2015 when Gaga released Joanne I'd be totally fine with it. But that she took 3 years only to rush something few months prior the release date leaves it with a sour taste in my mouth. And now she is seemingly also rushing the videos. MR video is basically Apple commercial outtakes and PI music video outtakes, with some new shot footage. That's just pretty disappointing for someone who had such a good videography, and I'm not only talking about BR or Telephone. You & I was a great video, so was MTN or Poker Face, and eve TEOG is better than MR. Sometimes it feels like I've got a war in my mind, I wanna get off but I keep riding the ride Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardevoir 9,822 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Girl explained what she meant by "true fans". You are allowed to not like everything she's ever done of course but have some fvcking respect to her as an artist and human being. Instead, some of you are acting like bunch of crybabies, calling her over, and simply HATING everything of hers that you don't like. There is a thing that is called constructive criticism, but I guess some of you just know nothing about it. Grow up. Sugar, spice, and everything nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nono 3,576 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 19 hours ago, Karandr said: I find this kind of stuff really cloying and insincere. These people all use the same buzzwords that Gaga uses, they write in her voice and it's this never-ending echo chamber. It's a very transparent attempt to curry favour with a celebrity by validating every last thing she does. Exactly the same thing I was thinking same buzzwords written in her own voice only to lick her ass, and to be self called "true fan" MESS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpookyKid 15,153 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 24 minutes ago, Lona Delery said: My problem, and I think that is also the one with a lot of people, is that Gaga took 3 years to release another album, an album which she began working on this year. In 2016. If it was 2014 or early 2015 when Gaga released Joanne I'd be totally fine with it. She hasn't stop working since 2008. god forbid how does she dare take a year And she didn't even take a year, she promoted c2c, did 2 seasons of AHS, won 1 grammy, performed at the oscars Life has a hopeful undertone |-/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E24187 615 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 It seems the letter is saying you're free to dislike, it's the level of respect you give that makes the difference. The meltdowns some of you were having were outright disrespectful. That's when your dislike of the video crossed the line. I have no compulsion to ever watch the MR video again because I know she can do better. I pretty much stopped there. She'll either learn when views stall at 10 million or wallow further into denial. I never called her or her friends out of their names. At some point, the label will jump in which is probably for the best. She's either doesn't have the eye for catching visuals or doesn't care. Now you see why some artists don't get creative freedom. It's a business at the end of the day. If she TRULY wanted to be indieGa, we wouldn't even know Joanne existed except for YouTube uploads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister max 18,480 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 20 hours ago, dannydevito said: dont come with that true fan nonsense, the person who wrote this clearly said being a true fan doesnt mean you have to like everything, because "everyone has opinions". You complainin like he said true fans are the ones who love the MR video when he clearly didnt stop creating drama where the isnt any Omg this The word twisting in this thread is INTENS Buy ARTPOP on itunes or smth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Nothing about this hints that she cares about video hate-- It's more about her changing as an artist and the challenges that poses. She's talked about it before Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrrealzjuan 137 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 😢 insert Marina and the Diamonds "I am not a robot" lyrics here: " You've been acting awful tough lately Smoking a lot of cigarettes lately But inside, you're just a little baby It's okay to say you've got a weak spot You don't always have to be on top Better to be hated Than lived loved loved for what your not You're vulnerable, you're vulnerable You are not a robot You're lovable, so lovable But you're just troubled Guess what? I'm not a robot, a robot Guess what? I'm not a robot, a robot" 🤖 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Americano 31,061 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Also there's no drama here so cut it with the "when will she post again!!" nonsense. She probably was just like "This is nice. They understand my changes as a person" -Likes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karandr 150 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 9 hours ago, SilkSpectre0 said: I guess it makes very little sense to people why you would choose to wallow in negativity. Do you go online and write about every to show you don't like? Every song and every film? Would you join a book club for a book you didn't like so you could vocalise how you didn't like it? Nah I'd guess you wouldn't waste any more of your life on it. You're a happier person if you define yourself by what you LOVE and being prostuff not just antistuff. The amount of people on here who define themselves by what they're not not enjoying is crazy. If you're fans of gagas 'potential' rather than what she's doing right now why not go enjoy something else for a while? Gaga is doing what she wants and when that combined with what you want again come spread some love for it. You have too much time on your hands if you have time to come to a forum to complain. Your pointed tone and personal attack were quite uncalled for. I participate in this forum, and have for years, because I'm a fan of Gaga's work and enjoy the opportunity to discuss it with other fans. That, to me, includes critically analysing her work - the good and the bad. I'm not dragging her, I'm not spreading hate/negativity/whatever other trite two-word combinations you can conjure up. If this whole pathetic argument is about who Gaga's true fans are, I'd say they're the ones who respect her enough as an artist and adult to be frank and honest in their assessment of her work. I thought the Perfect Illusion video was great - simple in the right way, in that there was still enough creative flair and intrigue to make it have rewatch value. If you're trying to paint me as a one-note antifan, you'll have to try a bit harder, dear. I don't need your patronising advice on what would make me a happier person, and the insinuation that I'm wasting my life is a bit rich considering we're both on this cult site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monketsharona 80,348 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 well I don't like the video and some things she does during Joanne era, so I'm a fake fan I guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrrealzjuan 137 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Ugh, just read through everyone's post. I can't with the "kiss her ass" vs "lick her ass" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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