Dancing In Circles Is NOT Radio Friendly

[Economy 49,859]

41 minutes ago, Helxig said:

I don't hear creepy in that song personally. But I do hear sexy and seductive 

U sure gp will think that?

[xoxo cupcakke 4,781]

2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Lovegame was when she was at her commercial peak, getting a lot of hype and looked traditionally attractive, making it far more likely to catch on. And those other songs are from rap/RnB artists and that genre allows for a lot more acceptability when it comes to dirty or unusual songs.

It did extremely well in America. The rest of the world, not so much because that type of rap doesn't really catch on internationally. It only went to #2 in the UK because we were still using the pre-order system at the time and it was on pre-order for 2 months and it also included sales of the clean version. It never would have got that high otherwise. It was more of a video hit than a commercial hit if you actually look at the sales. I think a lot of people liked it for sheer kitsch value. And as I said before, we accept dirty songs from rappers so much better because we're made to believe that this is just what rappers do. Also, rap radio stations are massive in America - it's the support of them that allows such songs to be big there (whereas globally, rap radio isn't as big a deal). Plus, rap fans are extremely loyal and religiously buy/stream/watch whatever their fave does. In the pop world, however, fans are fickle. Rap is right up there with country when it comes to fan loyalty. These acts have a headstart before they've even released an album purely because of the genre they've affiliated with.

Peacock wasn't a single and Birthday was a single and failed miserably, with even its music video failing to crack the 100 million mark even after nearly 3 years, unheard of for a Katy Perry video. Seriously, it came out at the same time as GUY and despite being shorter, only having one version and being more GP friendly, it has less views and likes. And if you want more evidence of dirty pop songs failing to catch on, just look at how Britney's recent songs did on the charts. When it comes to doing a dirty pop song, you have to tread so carefully. The key to doing it successfully is being very young, very hot, shrouding your song in metaphors, being super generic and have a rap guest feature say the naughty stuff. That's why Side To Side can be a hit but anything from an older, lesser attractive (though I disagree in Gaga's case) pop artist using honest lyrics will not.

I mean, you can say all these things, but the truth is, Dancin in Circles is radio friendly. It doesn't matter if Gaga is not at her peak, she can still release. Is it going to see success? Not if the single preceding it flops, if there ever is a single preceding it after Million Reasons. I think it's trivial to make these hypothetical assumptions and situations. If it was something like Scheiße, I would agree with you, but Dancin in Circles is acceptable if Gaga can talk about disco sticks, ear condoms, doing what she wants with her body. Pop can be explicit as any other genre can be, and Dancin in Circles will find some radio success under certain conditions and circumstances which depend on the prior success of a single

Next you're gonna tell me John Wayne is too explicit for radio because it talks about sex and drug use? There are so many songs that are explicit and make it big on radio. Radios are not as prudish as you are making them out to be. What do you make of Side to Side? Are you going to say Ariana is at her peak? She's already peaked by your definition of peak if you consider LoveGame to be when Gaga was at her peak; by that assertion Ariana was at her peak with Problem

I don't know, I just feel as if you're trying to make certain assertions which put you in the right, and instead of looking at the reality at hand and the industry at hand, you're trying to think like a literal soccer mom which is not how the industry works and is not the audience Gaga is trying to go after with Dancin in Circles, more so with Joanne as a whole

[KleinGa 18,177]

She needs a vevo record visual to make this a success tbh.

[KleinGa 18,177]

12 minutes ago, CowSiss said:

I mean, you can say all these things, but the truth is, Dancin in Circles is radio friendly. It doesn't matter if Gaga is not at her peak, she can still release. Is it going to see success? Not if the single preceding it flops, if there ever is a single preceding it after Million Reasons. I think it's trivial to make these hypothetical assumptions and situations. If it was something like Scheiße, I would agree with you, but Dancin in Circles is acceptable if Gaga can talk about disco sticks, ear condoms, doing what she wants with her body. Pop can be explicit as any other genre can be, and Dancin in Circles will find some radio success under certain conditions and circumstances which depend on the prior success of a single

Next you're gonna tell me John Wayne is too explicit for radio because it talks about sex and drug use? There are so many songs that are explicit and make it big on radio. Radios are not as prudish as you are making them out to be. What do you make of Side to Side? Are you going to say Ariana is at her peak? She's already peaked by your definition of peak if you consider LoveGame to be when Gaga was at her peak; by that assertion Ariana was at her peak with Problem

I don't know, I just feel as if you're trying to make certain assertions which put you in the right, and instead of looking at the reality at hand and the industry at hand, you're trying to think like a literal soccer mom which is not how the industry works and is not the audience Gaga is trying to go after with Dancin in Circles, more so with Joanne as a whole

 

Exactly. The EXTREMELY vulgar song Side to Side is on the radio. 

[Zazekina 785]

It sounds dance hall-ish with reggaeton vibes... It would be a hit tbh 

Spoiler

Bailando en circulos ft Maluma = 1000000000 views on Youtube 

 

[Addison Rae 16,775]

I don't get creepy at all from DIC  

However I do get a creepy 80s vibe from Perfect Illusion but I LIVE for it. 

[Addison Rae 16,775]

45 minutes ago, KleinGa said:

Exactly. The EXTREMELY vulgar song Side to Side is on the radio. 

Nicki literally says '**** bicycle' and it doesn't even get censored  and girls and boys sing along to it too  

[NIghtmareElm 2,606]

Are people forgetting that Blurred Lines was a massive hit?  That song is dirtier than DIC and creepier than DWUW ever could be.  

Bound 2 peaked at number 12, which is Kanye's dirtiest hit and his biggest solo hit in a while.

DIC is dirty but it's more fun dirty than anything.  The sound of it is radio friendly.  

Remember one of her most iconic lines ever? "Let's have some fun, this beat is sick, I wanna take a ride on your disco stick".  Love Game was a big hit.  

I feel it is destined to be a hit.

Give it a great music video. Not some lazy snooze fest.  I mean something with crazy weird visuals that's expected from Gaga.

Perform the song on talk shows.  With actual dancing and over the top outfits.

 

Maybe I am being bias because the song is in my top 5 favorite songs of the year.  Already one of my favorite Gaga songs ever. 

 

[Axl Jax 596]

tbh when I first heard it I was expecting a drop after the chorus. I think if it did than it could be a hit.

[FRANK1991 3,329]

I find Diamond Heart to be the most radio friendly

John Wayne and Come to Mama are the two that are my bops but will never become singles

DIC....well....I just don't get this song, I don't get why people love it

If Diamond Heart becomes a single I'll be satisfied, with the ending of MR video it's likely that there'll be a continuation (unlike the Telephone video) as to which song we shall see

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2 minutes ago, frankguo8 said:

I find Diamond Heart to be the most radio friendly

John Wayne and Come to Mama are the two that are my bops but will never become singles

DIC....well....I just don't get this song, I don't get why people love it

If Diamond Heart becomes a single I'll be satisfied, with the ending of MR video it's likely that there'll be a continuation (unlike the Telephone video) as to which song we shall see

Its not by any means one of my favourites but i too feel that Diamond heart is her best options for a single

[DontDoubtDavid 1,191]

I think it could be a hit. If "I Touch Myself" by the Divinyls became a hit in the 90s, so can DIC. But, it can't be certain. I notice she likes to leave fan faves to just her fans, and the one time she did release a fan fave (GUY), it failed massively.  Maybe she knows this, therefore DITD and Schiesse were never released.

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Dancin' In Circles: I think it would be a moderate hit, but not a no. 1 smash. In my opinion, the song is very monotomous, like it doesn't have that drop, but it has this summery, Ace of Base vibe.

John Wayne: This is like "Mary Jane Holland". Not really that radio friendly, but very Gaga. It's too complex and loud for a radio single but it would work with well-executed visuals.

A-YO: I am really glad (but lowkey not really) that this isn't the 2nd singlw because Gaga is known for her dance bop songs but after 8 years it would really be a time for a slow ballad single. If this becomes a single, I think it would be a moderate, top 10 hit.

Diamond Heart: In my opinion, it would be a perfect single for the Super Bowl. A mediocre hit, but I feel like it would smash as another one of her #1 hits.

Don't call me bias, cause John Wayne and Dancin' In Circle are both one of my favorites in the album.

[Jed 7,716]

I agree completely anyone who says otherwise is blinded by the word dancing and blinded by their ambitions for Gaga lol the GP isn't so simple to please.

[Zilla 13,384]

if DIC becomes a single and it isn't as well-received as people want it to be I think that would be one of the biggest meltdowns this site has ever had, and we've had some pretty bad ones...