Miel 15,009 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, GagaTheExplorer said: 1. She seems more depressed than never before... 2. Her choreos since Laurien G. left sucks (except for Applause) 3. She doesn't use RedOne since 2011 4. Her work with them was way better than her work without them 1. She seems to have been down recently, yes, but at least nothing compared to how she stated she felt during and after the first promotional run of ARTPOP. She had some big ass issues, then. 2. I'm not denying that her choreography hasn't been as good as before, but let's not forget how Boomkack kind of became an iffy person to Gaga halfway through BTW. Her helm as creative director, while not bad at all, definitely clashed heads with Gaga's creative freedom. 3. Gaga has written with RedOne for both ARTPOP and Joanne. While it was only co-writing credits, she definitely has worked with him extensively, especially in 204 and 2015. Why she didn't use him as much, we will never know. 4. That is all completely subjective. While in some aspects I agree (like her visuals), other aspects I vehemently disagree (her music has grown, and her musicianship has evolved). --- I'm not trying to completely slam your original point, I'm just saying that what makes Gaga great is not completely dependent on her old team. Could she use a bit of a change-up? Of course, for example: how Ruth Hogben, who was fantastic before, somehow managed to create some incredibly underwhelming videos. Either get her out or get her to do better. But in the end, Gaga is still a spectacular musician and artist. One (... or two) sh*tty video shouldn't make us give up on her. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,687 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 23 minutes ago, Craig Barnes said: I dont, I prefer this era to any other. I want her to stay simple. She is so happy right now and I love that she is happy! I love the music video because it shows her a chapter in her life and some of what she went through. She doesnt need any costumes like previous eras to stand out. Her MV doesnt need to go crazy. She is showing her creativity in other ways. You all need to grow up. What did you expect from the video - guitars shooting flames? Give me a break. The video was a beautiful video of her and what she went through. U still dont get it the issue isnt just simplicity... its that shes not doing the simplicity well... her old style she did well But ill be honest. She was a unique force and she stood out and was the best at what she did. Now shes ordinary, an underground artist can do this She gave up her uniqueness. But worse of all, i dont think shes doing it well A video can be simple but still be better edited or have emotion that doesnt look so forced But like u said, if shes happy shes happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muscletank 410 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Am I the only one that thinks the video isn't that bad lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaTheExplorer 3,053 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 30 minutes ago, Muscletank said: Am I the only one that thinks the video isn't that bad lol. the MR music video made me have a new respect to Beautiful Dirty Rich Music Video Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbri 1,369 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 4 hours ago, Andy21 said: DWUW would've exploded. Today I heard it on the radio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Voices 1,024 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Haven't honestly read the entire post but.. Why do people think that creativity = strange clothes and crazy videos. Artists have been creative for hundreds o f years without those things. Look a the music our girl has pun on Joanne. That is ****in' creativity! Forever and Always! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyDWUW 3,971 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 9 minutes ago, mattbri said: Today I heard it on the radio. OH MY GOD I would freak out Never heard it on the radio, but I did get to dance to it at a club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swando 300 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 9 hours ago, AlexanderMagno said: If the critics were able to affect Gaga's drive, passion and creativity, then Gaga is not an artist after all. What kind of messed up sentence An artist is NOT a freaking God. Being affected by negativity has nothing to do with being an artist. Artistry is about honing your expression. Not being affected by negativity is about personal growth and maturity It's two VERY seperate things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaybeKermit 4,898 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 49 minutes ago, Swando said: What kind of messed up sentence An artist is NOT a freaking God. Being affected by negativity has nothing to do with being an artist. Artistry is about honing your expression. Not being affected by negativity is about personal growth and maturity It's two VERY seperate things Not really. Me as an artist: Yes maybe sometimes I feel bad with criticism. But I would NEVERRRRRRR filter/change/basic my work just so a critic is happy. It really IS ahout honouring your passion and never give in to what people say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 10 hours ago, Bakki Del Rey said: At this point i don't care 'what destroyed' her. If she's not able to serve us an actual album with good visuals, then she can feel free to quit her career. It's just too much that we went through all of her transitions, Cheek to Cheek, Acting & etc, and what did we geet, old & used outtakes. If she wanted to show us her personal side (although i don't agree) personal thing needs to stay personal, she could've released the Terry/Gaga documentary, that she never put out. At this point she just proves how insecure she is, changing genres on every album, she contradicts herself all the time. Gosh, you were just put through SO much. I'm sorry you had to deal with it Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, Funkymonkey said: Not really. Me as an artist: Yes maybe sometimes I feel bad with criticism. But I would NEVERRRRRRR filter/change/basic my work just so a critic is happy. It really IS ahout honouring your passion and never give in to what people say. Yeah but if you had to put yourself on the chopping block... It might be different. She made a career, a business out of it and she has to deliver that aspect of it too. Whether we agree with it or not. Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman 6,174 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 How can you say Million Reasons isn't creative? Just because it isn't visual assault doesn't mean there's not a vision there. Her going for a complete series of interconnected videos for this album is a very big project and telling a cohesive story requires plenty of creativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagas love 722 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 11 hours ago, MJHolland said: I think it made her super afraid to push the envelope and release conceptual music, thus... the Joanne era Wow you said it perfectly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagas love 722 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 9 minutes ago, Dayman said: How can you say Million Reasons isn't creative? Just because it isn't visual assault doesn't mean there's not a vision there. Her going for a complete series of interconnected videos for this album is a very big project and telling a cohesive story requires plenty of creativity. So why not just release it as a whole. It's just awkward af Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagas love 722 Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said: Yeah but if you had to put yourself on the chopping block... It might be different. She made a career, a business out of it and she has to deliver that aspect of it too. Whether we agree with it or not. Yup. She should change her stage name if she doesn't wanna live up to it. Simple af. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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