Gaga + artists can really learn from Taylor Swift's Bad Blood strategy

[4BLAiNE 1,275]

9 minutes ago, sipthistea said:

I believe she's had discussions with her label about that. Back in 2011, Interscope wanted to release the Zedd Remix of Marry The Night as a single. But at the end they sent the original one. 

As an artist, I'd prefer the version I did, because it reflects the intention behind the work. Making a remix or a feature with a popular character seems like an attempt to gain popularity and charts, which imo diminishes the artistic purpose of the song. 

I would probably be exactly the same as an artist too, I wouldn't want to diminish the song's original integrity. But I suppose in that case, I should then have released more of the original versions as singles before the album release. 

I have never quite understood the logic of releasing songs people already have unless they are absolutely almost 100% guaranteed GP-fodder - people that don't have the album who will then buy that specific song. 

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Bad blood was big because of her featurings. Gaga can succeed by herself

[ShockPop 7,747]

The feature was a stab at katys rent a rapper singles run.

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24 minutes ago, CrazyMonster said:

Why not but she would need to deliver a super great music video.

Don't forget that the Bad Blood music video filled with guests is what contributed at 90% to the hype.

That and the rumor that it was about a Taylor/Katy feud. Bad Blood was a perfect storm of hype. 

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1 minute ago, Kayla said:

That and the rumor that it was about a Taylor/Katy feud. Bad Blood was a perfect storm of hype. 

Yeah Bad Blood just had so much hype around it.

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6 minutes ago, Kayla said:

That and the rumor that it was about a Taylor/Katy feud. Bad Blood was a perfect storm of hype. 

 

4 minutes ago, CrazyMonster said:

Yeah Bad Blood just had so much hype around it.

That definitely made a large part of it for sure, and perhaps therefore isn't the best example of my point, but what I am ultimately saying is, that when you're months into an album's release and still wanting to release singles from it, it seems to be effective to create a unique version of that song to try and regenerate hype and interest in it, rather than releasing a song everyone has had for months already. 

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Reads the title, Killa mode: On

Comes to thread, "But, alas," oh boy this is going to be good

Further reading, a....Taylor Swift comentary, well i was expecting something more specific, this is another tired ass strategy as having a latino feature (like some other thread)

My opinion: No, and really not like Bad Blood, Kendrick Lamar is so unecessary it hurts

[Lucas 26,786]

Britney did it with Slumber Party and it's #86 on Billboard xD

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10 minutes ago, Killa said:

Reads the title, Killa mode: On

Comes to thread, "But, alas," oh boy this is going to be good

Further reading, a....Taylor Swift comentary, well i was expecting something more specific, this is another tired ass strategy as having a latino feature (like some other thread)

My opinion: No, and really not like Bad Blood, Kendrick Lamar is so unecessary it hurts

Lol. 

This is A. Not a Taylor Swift commentary, its using her as one example parallel for the theory I was proposing.

B. I am not, actually, saying that 'this tired ass strategy' should be used in a way where any popular and trendy musician hops on board to try and gain some cheap sales.

I AM actually saying, via that of an opinion, that perhaps the current trend of features, remixes and musically changing up single releases has kinda been proven to be effective lately, and thus COULD be an avenue worth exploring, should the musical change up or featured artist add to the song's merit (not that I am saying that Lamar's inclusion in Bad Blood did, but it worked nonetheless). 

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4 minutes ago, GagaInTheZone said:

Britney did it with Slumber Party and it's #86 on Billboard xD

I hear you - its not always going to work, but in a way one could blame the fact her lead was underwhelming, as was the video shift, and taking almost two months post-album launch to release the second single with a feature that didn't seem to add anything to the song (both in terms of change-up or notoriety)

I m not bashing either woman here either though!

[Killa 17,461]

Just now, 4BLAiNE said:

Lol. 

This is A. Not a Taylor Swift commentary, its using her as one example parallel for the theory I was proposing.

B. I am not, actually, saying that 'this tired ass strategy' should be used in a way where any popular and trendy musician hops on board to try and gain some cheap sales.

I AM actually saying, via that of an opinion, that perhaps the current trend of features, remixes and musically changing up single releases has kinda been proven to be effective lately, and thus COULD be an avenue worth exploring, should the musical change up or featured artist add to the song's merit (not that I am saying that Lamar's inclusion in Bad Blood was, but it did work). 

lol sorry was i that offensive aahhah

still current trend that's been going since late 90's

I'm here for it, if there's quality, there's chemistry among them. She can also simply release a live performance exclusive as a new version for the single. But most of her acoustic arrangements are really too simple and lazy. That usually happens because there's demand, like she goes to a lounge BBC session and people love it, Interscope releases that version. That isn't happening

But i get you're idea of creating new buzz. It's a good idea, we just need something a bit more creative, though that's what's been lacking as it seems, of late.

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1 minute ago, Killa said:

lol sorry was i that offensive aahhah

still current trend that's been going since late 90's

I'm here for it, if there's quality, there's chemistry among them. She can also simply release a live performance exclusive as a new version for the single. But most of her acoustic arrangements are really too simple and lazy. That usually happens because there's demand, like she goes to a lounge BBC session and people love it, Interscope releases that version. That isn't happening

But i get you're idea of creating new buzz. It's a good idea, we just need something a bit more creative, though that's what's been lacking as it seems, of late.

Haha! Well, you have to understand, I am a newbie after all - you gotta go easy on me a little initially 

But yes, that's really what I was getting at. In fact, I'd say my point doesn't even include a feature necessarily, it just involves changing up the song in some way (an added verse, added orchestral elements, vocal shifts etc.) to try and re-brand the single release into something fresh and exclusive, in a way that still preserves its artistic merit.

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13 minutes ago, Killa said:

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