Fanta 5,019 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, freebit said: Once again, you're not her. This is not your career, or your experiences. She is bound feel and react differently from you. There will be overlap in some instances if you have both had similar issues regarding trauma or depression, but overall, she's going to experience it through a different filter. Those issues will affect her life in different ways. Ditto for you. I could understand your last point if her life was literally in danger, but the problem is that she's sad about feeling lonely at times because she can't make human connections in the way that non-famous people can. Why throw the baby out with the bathwater and give up her work? Like I said, life is far more complex than that. Even if she ****s off somewhere and gives everything up, that question of "does this person really like me for me?" will still be hanging there like the elephant in the room. Look at "irrelevant" celebs who haven't worked in years like Lindsay Lohan who still have randoms and family leeching off of them. She will never escape this predicament. You sound redundant, I'm sorry. And Gaga is making mountains out of molehills. Of all the things happening in the world and life in general, this is what she's crying about this time? Girl, I can't. It's disappointing that Gaga is sounding like nothing but a broken record of complaints. It's a slap in the face to people with real issues in the world who don't have the luxury of doing something about it. If she doesn't like it, she can stop promoting the album and stay in her backyard and take time for herself period. When Gaga loses the luxury to do anything about her issues or whatever she's going through, then your arguments and those like it will become valid. Her fans weren't loyal these past few years and stood against all odds dismissing what they didn't like only to be given a half-assed era that's sprinkled with serious, sad, and tear-filled interviews. And Gaga didn't take that time off and breathe and write and release a record that she's 100% happy with only to keep crying about her unresolved issues. What the hell is she doing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerny 4,270 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I thought she loved all the attention, I thought she loved the way that we cheer and scream for her, the applause, applause, applause?... no? Fame, Fame, doing it for the Fame? I honestly think that her depression is getting worse, music and performing is supposed to heal your soul, she needs to take vacations ant take care of herself, but this time before starting an era, not at the middle of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLuna 12,732 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I think Gaga is peeling off the layers and reconnecting with her true self. And sometimes, it hurts, especially when you feel like you've lost yourself along the way. It think it's a sort of transitional phase she's going through. But I have faith in Gaga, she's a strong woman, and I think only great things can come out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 15 minutes ago, Fanta said: You sound redundant, I'm sorry. And Gaga is making mountains out of molehills. Of all the things happening in the world and life in general, this is what she's crying about this time? Girl, I can't. It's disappointing that Gaga is sounding like nothing but a broken record of complaints. It's a slap in the face to people with real issues in the world who don't have the luxury of doing something about it. If she doesn't like it, she can stop promoting the album and stay in her backyard and take time for herself period. When Gaga loses the luxury to do anything about her issues or whatever she's going through, then your arguments and those like it will become valid. Her fans weren't loyal these past few years and stood against all odds dismissing what they didn't like only to be given a half-assed era that's sprinkled with serious, sad, and tear-filled interviews. And Gaga didn't take that time off and breathe and write and release a record that she's 100% happy with only to keep crying about her unresolved issues. What the hell is she doing? Same to you. You're just not getting it, and never will by stubbornly refusing to look outside of your own experience. We are going in circles, and I will just say that I hope no one ever coldly tells you to just get over something that is seriously emotionally distressing to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Peters 10,738 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 98% if the paps who follow you everywhere are called to be there but i get what she means. Hollywood can be real terrible place, especially when you aren't comfortable with putting on the image people want you to have emma roberts is an abuser Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahri Under You 410 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 9 hours ago, Radio Ga Ga said: Awww, she could go to some suburban places in the south where less people know about her than in the cities I've thought about this too. There are definitely places she can go to have privacy. She lives in NYC and LA. That's like paparazzi/celebrity city. I bet if she went to a smaller town in a state with less media she could get away for a bit.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 That poor girl. Many prices of fame seem so suffocating. I think of Gaga quite often, actually. Like today when I was running errands - I got to do it all unburdened. I stopped at a coffee shop and wrote some letters to my family, it was wonderful! I met a woman at the UPS store and we had a lovely conversation about our husbands, our work, etc. But if I was Gaga...I would have to hide my letters, I would be stopped by people asking for photos, the woman I met wouldn't want to just chat and she may have been nervous around me. And like, family problems? My little brother has many and I'd have to be careful so that the information wouldn't get out and he'd be harassed. What if I was single and started dating someone? We go out and it's instantly in the tabloids. Hell, just meeting people would be hard - are they here for me, or my money and fame? Like...I can't even ****ing imagine. And imagine you're not feeling well, having an off day, someone passed away, anything, and you perhaps shrug a fan off on the street and now they're pissed and tweeting about how rude you were. She's ALWAYS gotta be ON when she leaves the house, and even in her career she's highly scrutinized. We can go to work, clock in, clock out, and be done. But for her it's ALL. THE. TIME. Even her social media is a platform for her career. She can't just tweet and post for fun, y'know? It's like all the little things about our life and relationship are different for her. And I wish we could be those casual people she meets and gets to know, but in reality there's an awareness that we see her as LADY GAGA, that we are approaching our conversations and meet-ups with this baseline of knowledge, so the magic of getting to know someone new is lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, Ahri Under You said: I've thought about this too. There are definitely places she can go to have privacy. She lives in NYC and LA. That's like paparazzi/celebrity city. I bet if she went to a smaller town in a state with less media she could get away for a bit.. Doesn't Morgan Freeman live in some small rural town? Everyone knows him but is super chill. He apparently has a bar he frequents and it's not like people show up in droves just to see him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 ^ very important and relevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Fanta said: You sound redundant, I'm sorry. And Gaga is making mountains out of molehills. Of all the things happening in the world and life in general, this is what she's crying about this time? Girl, I can't. It's disappointing that Gaga is sounding like nothing but a broken record of complaints. It's a slap in the face to people with real issues in the world who don't have the luxury of doing something about it. If she doesn't like it, she can stop promoting the album and stay in her backyard and take time for herself period. When Gaga loses the luxury to do anything about her issues or whatever she's going through, then your arguments and those like it will become valid. Her fans weren't loyal these past few years and stood against all odds dismissing what they didn't like only to be given a half-assed era that's sprinkled with serious, sad, and tear-filled interviews. And Gaga didn't take that time off and breathe and write and release a record that she's 100% happy with only to keep crying about her unresolved issues. What the hell is she doing? You keep missing the point. Gaga isn't complaining that fame is bad. It's not that Gaga doesn't like or appreciate what fame has given her. It's just that it comes with strings attached. There is a price to fame, and many artists who found fame too soon have ended up dead because of it. That's all. Gaga doesn't bottle up her feelings. She's not a Barbie doll pretending that everything in her life is perfect. That is a perfect illusion. She's trying to reveal a hidden side to fame that many of us find compelling, creepy or crazy. And of course she's not the first to speak about it, but she is one of the first to be so open about it in the digital era of 24/7 social media. The girl deserves respect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said: You keep missing the point. Gaga isn't complaining that fame is bad. It's not that Gaga doesn't like or appreciate what fame has given her. It's just that it comes with strings attached. There is a price to fame, and many artists who found fame too soon have ended up dead because of it. That's all. Gaga doesn't bottle up her feelings. She's not a Barbie doll pretending that everything in her life is perfect. That is a perfect illusion. She's trying to reveal a hidden side to fame that many of us find compelling, creepy or crazy. And of course she's not the first to speak about it, but she is one of the first to be so open about it in the digital era of 24/7 social media. The girl deserves respect. Exactly. And fame is something that many people strive for. She is explaining the dark side so they can make an informed decision if its something worth pursuing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 6 hours ago, Ryl said: You can work in entertainment as a singer, actor and dancer without fame. Not all singing and acting jobs come in the form of high notoriety, Hollywood record labels and agents. ESPECIALLY in NY where she's from. She wanted and chose to become famous. Like I said, she can walk away from it anytime. You wanna cry about it? Lay your head down on your Egyptian silk pillows in your Malibu mansion and weep honey because nobody wants to hear it. There are starving kids in Africa and children's heads being blown up by bombs in Syria. And you wanna cry cause you've got no damn privacy on a beach in Malibu. Pick a finger. This applies to all rich and famous celebrities, not just gaga, who bitch and cry about privacy but it's the career path they chose. You can walk away at anytime. You know what's funny? People always pull this "You shouldn't be sad! Other people are sadder than you!" Would you ever tell someone, "There are people out there happier than you, so you shouldn't act so happy."? Of course ****ing not. Because an individuals emotions exist independently of other peoples'. A family member of mine attempted suicide, but I also know people who have LOST loved ones to suicide. Does that mean I can't be upset because other people had it worse? I love being around a friend of mine who makes me happy, but I also know people who do more fun things with their friends. Does that mean I can't enjoy my time with her because other people do cooler stuff? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Fanta said: No, I'm just calling it for what it is instead of writing poems about how sad I am. If she's going through all these issues now, the last thing she needs to do is release an album and go around promoting it. Let's take my comment about going away 'forever' out of the equation, how about a few more years? Nothing you can say can make right that it's wrong for her to be in the public eye if her issues are definitely deep rooted and not a 'I want my cake and I want to eat it too' situation. Let's be real here. You know, if it bothers you that much, there is a very easy way to avoid it all! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, Katie14 said: Exactly. And fame is something that many people strive for. She is explaining the dark side so they can make an informed decision if its something worth pursuing. Wanting to be famous for the sake of it is like wanting to have stalkers. That's why I would want to be talented but not famous instead of famous but not talented. Even if I was as talented as Gaga there is no way in hell would I want to be that level of fame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, Whispering said: You know, if it bothers you that much, there is a very easy way to avoid it all! Well said 👌🏾👌😎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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