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Lord Temptation

Gaga: I love people and miss talking to everyday people 

People: Shut up, you're famous, you're not one of us anymore so don't act like it

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Katsuki Bakugo

People who think she is now changed or weak she try and put themselves in her shoes for a second. 

If All You Ever Do Is Look Down On People, You Won't Be Able To Recognize Your Own Weaknesses.
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6 hours ago, Miel said:

I see where you're getting at, but @Americano has a point in that... it's very, very different for each individual.

Like, yes I agree that I want Gaga to be strong not just for the whole world, and her fans, and her family, but also for herself.

But at the same time, traumatic/really fücking awful events, and how they affect and bring back memories of each other, are more than likely not mutually exclusive.

See, I call fans like this enablers. I went through my own share of horrible traumatic experiences, and I had my own personal time to cry and let my frustration flow to the point where I became an extremely fragile and weak individual. However, the way life works I was whipped back into shape against my own will. What helped me through it? Support from my loved ones, and though I may never forget those things they certainly no longer dictate which direction my life will flow. I'm in control now.

Gaga has a much closer family than me, what seems like a great group of friends, and also unlike me access to the best therapists and psychologists. Her sob story doesn't move me because she's not doing anything besides talking about it, I know that when I see it. I watch reality television to discuss people and their issues, but not my favorite pop star who's sort of meant to discuss her fading best album. A shame.

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4 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

Gaga: I love people and miss talking to everyday people 

People: Shut up, you're famous, you're not one of us anymore so don't act like it

She's human, like all of us. Like all of us, she signed up for a job. If it bothers her so much she can stop releasing albums and stay away from the media forever. I'd love to see those 'LEAVE GAGA ALONE' stans' reaction.

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3 minutes ago, Melisandre said:

People who think she is now changed or weak she try and put themselves in her shoes for a second. 

Remember, a lot of us have went through things. Some of us know what it's like to deal with a traumatic event.

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3 minutes ago, Fanta said:

She's human, like all of us. Like all of us, she signed up for a job. If it bothers her so much she can stop releasing albums and stay away from the media forever. I'd love to see those 'LEAVE GAGA ALONE' stans' reaction.

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Remember, a lot of us have went through things. Some of us know what it's like to deal with a traumatic event.

I know. and those who know I can relate to and talk to. 

If All You Ever Do Is Look Down On People, You Won't Be Able To Recognize Your Own Weaknesses.
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4 minutes ago, Fanta said:

She's human, like all of us. Like all of us, she signed up for a job. If it bothers her so much she can stop releasing albums and stay away from the media forever. I'd love to see those 'LEAVE GAGA ALONE' stans' reaction.

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Remember, a lot of us have went through things. Some of us know what it's like to deal with a traumatic event.

You're so cold

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Lord Temptation
2 minutes ago, Fanta said:

She's human, like all of us. Like all of us, she signed up for a job. If it bothers her so much she can stop releasing albums and stay away from the media forever. I'd love to see those 'LEAVE GAGA ALONE' stans' reaction.

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Remember, a lot of us have went through things. Some of us know what it's like to deal with a traumatic event.

She's still human. I don't want her to be a cold-hearted bitch. I love that she shows us the isolating, crippling side of fame. It's like shining a light on the dark side of the moon.

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8 minutes ago, doppelganger said:

You're so cold

I was thinking of entertaining your post, but then I remembered you don't even know me in real life and what I'm like. Moving along. 

7 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

She's still human. I don't want her to be a cold-hearted bitch. I love that she shows us the isolating, crippling side of fame. It's like shining a light on the dark side of the moon.

She's not the first person to do it though, and I bet you it crushes her 100x more when her raw emotions become questioned not only by the GP but by us, her fans too. There's no reason she should be crying in front of a camera, she should be with a therapist to help her overcome her issues. Zero percent shade in my post by the way, I'd rather she steps away than release an album and cry about her life in interviews. It's sad and confusing to watch.

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freebit

Some of these replies are sickening. It brings to mind of when Britney went on Dateline a year before her 2007 breakdown and people were all "lol, shut-up" (then, of course, feigned shock and sadness when was taken away in an ambulance). People can be so gross. Some of you really don't see her as a real human being. 

10 minutes ago, Fanta said:

She's human, like all of us. Like all of us, she signed up for a job. If it bothers her so much she can stop releasing albums and stay away from the media forever. I'd love to see those 'LEAVE GAGA ALONE' stans' reaction.

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Remember, a lot of us have went through things. Some of us know what it's like to deal with a traumatic event.

Performing and creating is her livelyhood, and what she loves to do. As with everything there are upsides and downsides. She's talking about one of the downsides here. It doesn't mean she should have to choose one or the other. Life involves more complex decisions than that. I mean...this is her life's work.

And you're not her, everyone deals with things differently. She's dealing with different situations than you are, and vice versa. You don't seem to understand, nor want to, and it's baffling. 

2 hours ago, Slayer said:

I don't know about anyone else but I'm getting kind of sick of Gaga playing the victim act all the time. Every era is starting to sound like a therapy session for her. Change the channel, love, it could be worse. :lolly:

Wow, how dare her actually express her opinions honestly, and not be happy-go-lucky in an interview. 

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doppelganger
6 minutes ago, Fanta said:

I was thinking of entertaining your post, but then I remembered you don't even know me in real life and what I'm like. Moving along. 

You don't know Gaga either but that didn't stop you

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Gosh some people here are so ignorant to depression/anxiety and mental health issues in general. Rich people get depression. Rich people get anxiety. Rich people can have mental health issues. Rich people can experience loneliness. Rich people can cry about their problems. 

Yes, Gaga wanted fame. Yes, Gaga strived for it until she achieved it. Yes, she has acknowledged fame isn't all she thought it to be - she wrote an entire ****ing album about the dark side of fame. It's not like she's just coming out now and claiming "victim" of fame. 

Just think about everything she may have experienced over the last 10 years - loss of friends, difficultly in making new friends based on common interest in random settings, loss of the privilege of simply going to a store without nosy shoppers or paparazzi, the discomfort that might surround the fact that people literally stand just outside her property line, trying to catch a glimpse of the one space of land where she can do things without worrying about paparazzi/nosy locals, every pound she adds/loses being a hot topic on gossip shows, her appearance often ridiculed on national television, the fact that fans have this idea of her being a perfect god that can solve all their problems - having that sort of pressure on her would no doubt be such a burden sometimes especially when she's having to deal with her own issues. 

Does Gaga have good things going for her in spite of all this? Of course. She has financial stability, the resources to do what she loves, a great family that she will always be able to provide for where necessary, she's able to travel to anywhere in the world blah blah blah. Is her loneliness and desire to talk to people rather than pose for photos a 'first world problem' in her sense? Yes. Does this invalidate her at all? No. Feeling socially isolated, regardless of how many friends you may have, is extremely damaging for mental + social health. We all talk to randoms on an everyday basis - when we buy our groceries, tickets to a movie, ordering our morning coffee, small talk with people on the train/street, 24hr friendships with drunk girls in clubs - take that away and it's a very small bubble we'd live in - very isolating. 

Do you think the world trying to invalidate her feelings that resulted from all this because she's 'famous' and 'asking for it' makes everything that much harder? Most likely. I spent so long in denial about my depression because I truly believed I didn't have a 'reason' to be depressed. I had a great family, lots of friends, no money problems, was a social person, heck I was even happy at times. That rhetoric was damaging and caused me to develop more preventable health problems because of ignorant people/culture insisting that only people who struggle are allowed to be depressed or lonely or anything. 

If anyone here supports the destigmatisation of mental illness, you should be supporting the destigmatisation of mental illness among everyone, not just everyone (minus celebrities)  

If it's her talking about it that is the problem, then just don't listen. It's that simple. There are people, like myself, who appreciate when high profile people talk about their struggles because it reminds me to stop invalidating mine. Her words, and the words of other celebrities speaking out could potentially mark the beginning of people actually listening, and realizing the damaging nature of fame and fame culture and bring back the sense of humanity towards celebrities. 

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3 minutes ago, freebit said:

Performing and creating is her livelyhood, and what she loves to do. As with everything there are upsides and downsides. She's talking about one of the downsides here. It doesn't mean she should have to choose one or the other. Life involves more complex decisions than that. I mean...this is her life's work.

And you're not her, everyone deals with things differently. She's dealing with different situations than you are, and vice versa. You don't seem to understand, nor want to, and it's baffling. 

No, I'm just calling it for what it is instead of writing poems about how sad I am. If she's going through all these issues now, the last thing she needs to do is release an album and go around promoting it. Let's take my comment about going away 'forever' out of the equation, how about a few more years? Nothing you can say can make right that it's wrong for her to be in the public eye if her issues are definitely deep rooted and not a 'I want my cake and I want to eat it too' situation. Let's be real here.

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1 hour ago, mic said:

I think these are just words. She's always been rich so growing up in a luxurious apartment in manhattan or living life in Malibu mansion doesn't really make that much of a difference.

the only difference is that she became famous and it turnt out she doesn't like it. She wanted to be polarising and wanted to be close with fans so I don't really get why all of the sudden she sais this is not what she wants.

imho this is being ungrateful but on the other hand how can you blame her - she just went too hardcore at the start and then it overwhelmed her 

so its cool i get it, but its pity that she is so sad nowadays in interviews and sends out so little energy. She had 3 years off to do whatever she wanted, people go through depression in loliness and fear about making enough for living.

its like children die out of hunger in africa and she is sad and cries during interview because she feels lonely. This is not on.

So only children starving in Africa are "allowed" to be depressed or talk about their struggles? I hate it when people dismiss someone's hardships or sadness because there are people who have it worse. There are always going to be people in "worse" situations. But everyone has different frames of references in their heads and everyone reacts to situations differently. Just because there are people starving doesn't meant that other people's struggles aren't real. You can't just objectively say that someone should be happy because they have a comfortable and luxurious lifestyle. I guarantee you there are people in 3rd world countries who are happier than Gaga has ever been.

Happiness has a lot more to do with your natural brain chemistry (Gaga has depression and anxiety), your physical health (Gaga has chronic pain), how much pressure is placed on you, guilt, being held to standards, control over your life, boredom, isolation, loneliness, ect, ect. There are so many factors that play into happiness, and most of these factors are way more important than how much money a person has (although I do agree that having enough money to live a comfortable lifestyle certainly does improve happiness because it reduces stress. Studies show that having more money above and beyond what is needed to be comfortable does not improve or barely improves happiness levels). 

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freebit
4 minutes ago, Fanta said:

No, I'm just calling it for what it is instead of writing poems about how sad I am. If she's going through all these issues now, the last thing she needs to do is release an album and go around promoting it. Let's take my comment about going away 'forever' out of the equation, how about a few more years? Nothing you can say can make right that it's wrong for her to be in the public eye if her issues are definitely deep rooted and not a 'I want my cake and I want to eat it too' situation. Let's be real here.

Once again, you're not her. This is not your career, or your experiences. She is bound feel and react differently from you. There will be overlap in some instances if you have both had similar issues regarding trauma or depression, but overall, she's going to experience it through a different filter. Those issues will affect her life in different ways. Ditto for you. 

I could understand your last point if her life was literally in danger, but the problem is that she's sad about feeling lonely at times because she can't make human connections in the way that non-famous people can. Why throw the baby out with the bathwater and give up her work? Like I said, life is far more complex than that.

Even if she ****s off somewhere and gives everything up, that question of "does this person really like me for me?" will still be hanging there like the elephant in the room. Look at "irrelevant" celebs who haven't worked in years like Lindsay Lohan who still have randoms and family leeching off of them. She will never escape this predicament. 

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