Katie14 4,828 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 My favorite Gaga performances always used to be the simple acoustic ones. I love and still love the way she can transform a dance track to an emotional and sometimes jazzy/bluesy piano ballad. But I realized now that I loved those performances because of the contrast between those and the more concept oriented creative and storytelling performance art pieces. Gaga can do whatever feels right to her at the moment and I will stand by her for the rest of my life, but I miss her creativity. Think about the 2009 VMAs, the 2013 AMAs, and other ones I posted below, her music videos and fashion that were social commentaries, ect. Im starting to wonder if she lost some of her creativity. Apparently creativity peaks around your mid twenties (not sure if that is true), maybe she burnt herself out, or maybe she was never the creative force behind her artistry at all. I think its most likely that she just wants to put all her efforts into her vocals and the music itself because she want to be more respected as a musician. Maybe she will go back to performance art the next era. What do you think? http://www.metatube.com/en/videos/64318/Lady-GaGa-The-Edge-Of-Glory-Born-This-Way-Live-MTV-Japan-Awards-2011/ I could go on and on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel 877 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Nostalgia :'( I miss this too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatelynnMarie 4,406 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 This era she's going for a more authentic look as far as the music is concerned. She has mentioned or alluded to the idea that she wants people to pay attention more to the music and not the extravaganza. I mean, she always wanted people to pay attention to her music, but I think now moreso than ever. Joanne is family themed and it makes sense, at least to me, that these are the vibes she's serving. The avant garde is a part of who Gaga is, and we will absolutely get that feeling again, I'm 100% certain, but for now with this era, all that's happening is a different vibe. I wouldn't get too upset or look too much into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Music 15,215 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 why must we dwell on the past when we should strive to look forward to the future? this is currently a progressive and transitional phase in Gaga's career and i'm not sure why some want her to halt or even step back.. i, for one am enjoying the less distractions and focusing on the core of what makes a vocalist; their voice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, CatelynnMarie said: This era she's going for a more authentic look as far as the music is concerned. She has mentioned or alluded to the idea that she wants people to pay attention more to the music and not the extravaganza. I mean, she always wanted people to pay attention to her music, but I think now moreso than ever. The avant garde is a part of who Gaga is, and we will absolutely get that feeling again, I'm 100% certain, but for now with this era, all that's happening is a different vibe. I wouldn't get too upset or look too much into it. Im not talking about the extravaganza, Im talking about the concepts, creativity, and messages behind her performances and artistry. A lot of that has been lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,106 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Really, I think it's more so just a reflection of where she is now and the music she is making. It reflects a shift in direction more than a decrease in creative ability. I think if AY-O was the lead single we would have had an AMA performance similar to her previous theatrical award show performances. I mean tonight the stage design was still completely incredible and highly creative - it doesn't seem so far removed from performances like the "Hair" example you have in OP. I'd also note that it wasn't so long ago that she performed her Bowie tribute at The Grammy awards and that was comparable to her old performances. I get why some Gaga fans aren't totally enthused by the direction she is going, it's a significant change, but I think she is moving in the right direction. I think performances like her AMA performance tonight contrast her previous performances in a positive way and really add more variety. If Gaga kept up with the heavily choreographed routines and outrageous costumes I would have felt like she was going over the same territory and was limited as a performer. She isn't the perfect guitar player by any stretch of the imagination, but I appreciate her trying to learn new skills and approaches. I think that's only positive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray of Light 8,134 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Build a bridge and get over it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I agree, but also love what she's doing now. Win-win for me, I guess haha. I also think it's more, in a sense, just her going along with what she feels is the album's overall aesthetic. I mean, if we really looked at it, she's honestly been campy and obnoxious throughout all of her albums (including C2C!!!), just in different ways. She's still pretty extra this time around around for Joanne, but also much more reserved and, even if a bit contradictory, emotionally open in many performances. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, Bebe said: Really, I think it's more so just a reflection of where she is now and the music she is making. It reflects a shift in direction more than a decrease in creative ability. I think if AY-O was the lead single we would have had an AMA performance similar to her previous theatrical award show performances.I mean tonight the stage design was still completely incredible and highly creative - it doesn't seem so far removed from performances like the "Hair" example you have in OP. I'd also note that it wasn't so long ago that she performed her Bowie tribute at The Grammy awards and that was comparable to her old performances. I get why some Gaga fans aren't totally enthused by the direction she is going, it's a significant change, but I think she is moving in the right direction. I think performances like her AMA performance tonight contrast her previous performances in a positive way and really add more variety. If Gaga kept up with the heavily choreographed routines and outrageous costumes I would have felt like she was going over the same territory and was limited as a performer. She isn't the perfect guitar player by any stretch of the imagination, but I appreciate her trying to learn new skills and approaches. I think that's only positive. I wouldn't really call tonight's set creative. It was beautiful but a recreation of a landscape isn't very creative to me. I posted the hair performance because of the message and the irony of singing about your hair while bald. Thats creative to me. The Bowie tribute is creative as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatelynnMarie 4,406 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 12 minutes ago, Katie14 said: Im not talking about the extravaganza, Im talking about the concepts, creativity, and messages behind her performances and artistry. A lot of that has been lost. This is Gaga we're talking about. She didn't just wake up one morning and say f*ck it I don't care anymore. She's in a different place at this current moment, that's all really. The messages are in the music and that's what she's trying to push. She's taking on the persona of Joanne. Maybe not the persona, but the authenticity of her legacy and pushing that forward. She's not trying to make a spectacle with crazy, intricate concepts. She wants the focus to be on the music and her talent, not the art of the performance itself or the costumes. In virtually all her past performance art pieces, the thing that's talked about most is the craziness of the performance itself or her outfit. It's almost never about the music or her talent. I mean, that's why I think people are always like, "Wow! That Lady GaGa can sing?!" because all the general public remembers her as is a gimic. We as fans know who Gaga is and know/ understand the meaning behind her art performances, but the general public doesn't know sh*t. She wants everyone to listen to the music and hear what she has to say. She doesn't want to be labeled as a gimic. She's just reinventing herself again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,106 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, Katie14 said: I wouldn't really call tonight's set creative. It was beautiful but a recreation of a landscape isn't very creative to me. I posted the hair performance because of the message and the irony of singing about your hair while bald. Thats creative to me. The Bowie tribute is creative as well. I suppose we just have to agree to disagree I think if we compare the stage sets to the other performers of the night, Gaga's absolutely blows them away. To cover the entire stage with this grass and glowing flowers: With that background.... They could have created a tiny little set - but it's clear they really thought about it. They made it so that she was lost in this magical forest, that seemed so expansive, and was playing the guitar at this lake. I rate that so much more than: tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Appreciate the artist you have now before she is gone. Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerny 4,270 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I think it's a combination of everything you said, leaning more towards to her old team, it was conformed of focused, talented people with a vision, everything looked polished without looking too fabricated. What I don't like about her latest music and performances is that it comes off as unauthentic, it looks like a forced act, you can say she wants to show her vocal prowess but even her voice sounds forced, her facial expressions look exaggerated and she can't play guitar. Also, I don't understand the "she's focusing on the music" excuse, she's not even performing as much as before and the music is not even that good, it's incredible simple, It sounds like it's lacking something, more instrumentation and improvised bits like breaking the structure of the plain and boring, verse, pre-chorus, chorus, verse, pre-chorus, chorus and bridge, perhaps? And before someone comes for me, no, I don't want her to keep doing what she already did 7/5 years ago, no, i was expecting an evolution of that, and to me what she's doing now looks like a downgrade. The I Want Your Love cover and music video was a lot better and authentic in my opinion, she looked like herself but still new and refreshing. I just think this era has been pretty disappointing in every aspect, so far, and i don't see it getting any better, it's cool that a lot of people like it though. Looking forward to her next project, maybe she makes something that appeals to me in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 13 minutes ago, Katie14 said: I wouldn't really call tonight's set creative. It was beautiful but a recreation of a landscape isn't very creative to me. I posted the hair performance because of the message and the irony of singing about your hair while bald. Thats creative to me. The Bowie tribute is creative as well. I don't think it was particularly creative either and it's something we have seen numerous times. One Direction's stage design at the American Music Awards the previous year is nearly identical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFriend 1,974 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 It's ok to miss it. It's ok to admit she's taking things simpler this time. This is an era my dear. You can't have summer when it's winter. She will always live for her music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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