Study Finds Veganism To Be The Most Sustainable Diet, Published By PLOS

[Anastasia 6,093]

1 minute ago, Shadowcrest said:

Some of us don't want to go vegan in the slightest due to people shoving it on them without remorse. Let people find it themselves. 

Nobody is shoving it in your face, vegans are 1% of the world population, most people have never even met one. I'm doing my best to spread information to people who may not be aware of it, the people who view it can choose what they do with that knowledge after, please stop being so melodramatic.

[Luv u Sum 2,534]

*reading this thread while eating a corndog and mac and cheese*

[Shadowcrest 2,487]

15 minutes ago, Anastasia said:

Nobody is shoving it in your face, vegans are 1% of the world population, most people have never even met one. I'm doing my best to spread information to people who may not be aware of it, the people who view it can choose what they do with that knowledge after, please stop being so melodramatic.

Your attitude is sure convincing me of your cause. Vegans may be 1%, but they are the loudest and most annoying 1% I've had the displeasure of dealing with. 

[Shadowcrest 2,487]

On 11/14/2016 at 9:16 PM, Lord Temptation said:

It fits in the trash can.

omg right next to this thread 

[Anastasia 6,093]

7 minutes ago, Shadowcrest said:

Your attitude is sure convincing me of your cause. Vegans may be 1%, but they are the loudest and most annoying 1% I've had the displeasure of dealing with. 

If you are interested in what you can do to help stop animal abuse or help the environment then veganism can be an easy way to make a change in your life. If neither interest you and you have nothing to discuss or refute from the study then this isn't the thread for you.

You can read back on every page of this thread, I attacked no one and did my best to keep it civil, I am not a loud or obnoxious person. I refuse to abuse animals, and my greatest hope is that others will stop, I don't see that as being an invasive or disrespectful cause. 

I'm sorry if you have had bad experiences with people who are vegans in the past, but do not put that blame on me. You should read up on cognitive dissonance.

[Shadowcrest 2,487]

14 minutes ago, Anastasia said:

If you are interested in what you can do to help stop animal abuse or help the environment then veganism can be an easy way to make a change in your life. If neither interest you and you have nothing to discuss or refute from the study then this isn't the thread for you.

You can read back on every page of this thread, I attacked no one and did my best to keep it civil, I am not a loud or obnoxious person. I refuse to abuse animals, and my greatest hope is that others will stop, I don't see that as being an invasive or disrespectful cause. 

I'm sorry if you have had bad experiences with people who are vegans in the past, but do not put that blame on me. You should read up on cognitive dissonance.

I'm not obnoxious but let me write two and a half paragraphs about how i'm so nice and non-invasive, followed by a passive aggressive insult. Solid 

[Ferrer Zorola 3,966]

On 14/11/2016 at 10:47 AM, Awkwardbrocoli said:

Veganism is the only true way to save the planet from climate change and it is so simple to make the change, way easier than what the media and people say. 

vegan food is way more expensive and hard to find and every now and then one's gonna want to relapse so yes, it is hard 

[Anastasia 6,093]

4 minutes ago, Shadowcrest said:

I'm not obnoxious but let me write two and a half paragraphs about how i'm so nice and non-invasive, followed by a passive aggressive insult. Solid 

I said I'm not obnoxious because you were pretending all vegans like to get in people's face, which if you read this entire thread and see all the vegans commenting respectfully you will see it's untrue. Writing two paragraphs does not equal invasiveness or egotism. My comment about reading up in cognitive dissonance is not at all passive aggressive either, it's a very common experience, and you are obviously experiencing extreme defensiveness and diverting from the main argument, which are symptoms. Take this information from the study, from the comments on this thread, and from whatever information you find from googling cognitive dissonance, and do with it what you will. I'm not interested in petty arguments or trolling. 

[Anastasia 6,093]

13 minutes ago, Ferrer Zorola said:

vegan food is way more expensive and hard to find and every now and then one's gonna want to relapse so yes, it is hard 

Beans, rice, potatoes, and fruits and vegetables that are in season can be the cheapest foods in the store. Most of the world is forced to eat vegetarian diets because they cannot afford meat, and most of them don't ever eat cheese. It's not some rehabilitation program, there's no such thing as relapsing on a vegan diet. Veganism is about doing the best you can to reduce suffering, you can still eat what you crave, just try alternatives. There is plenty of vegan junk food, just scroll a few pages back and you can find several recipes I posted.

Here is a link to accidentally vegan foods: http://www.peta.org/living/food/accidentally-vegan/comment-page-9/?PageIndex=1

[Shadowcrest 2,487]

4 minutes ago, Anastasia said:

I said I'm not obnoxious because you were pretending all vegans like to get in people's face, which if you read this entire thread and see all the vegans commenting respectfully you will see it's untrue. Writing two paragraphs does not equal invasiveness or egotism. My comment about reading up in cognitive dissonance is not at all passive aggressive either, it's a very common experience, and you are obviously experiencing extreme defensiveness and diverting from the main argument, which are symptoms. Take this information from the study, from the comments on this thread, and from whatever information you find from googling cognitive dissonance, and do with it what you will. I'm not interested in petty arguments or trolling. 

I'm going to take this information, and go to the steakhouse down the street. thnx. 

[Anastasia 6,093]

7 minutes ago, Shadowcrest said:

I'm going to take this information, and go to the steakhouse down the street. thnx. 

This is a film called Earthlings, NSFW and contains graphic images.

Spoiler

 

 

[Shadowcrest 2,487]

2 minutes ago, Anastasia said:

This is a film called Earthlings

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yeah I feel no remorse; this is a film called the dark knight, buy it on amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Knight-Blu-ray-Christian-Bale/dp/B001CEE1WG/ref=tmm_blu_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1479347444&sr=8-3

[Anastasia 6,093]

14 minutes ago, Shadowcrest said:

yeah I feel no remorse; this is a film called the dark knight, buy it on amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Knight-Blu-ray-Christian-Bale/dp/B001CEE1WG/ref=tmm_blu_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1479347444&sr=8-3

Watch the film before replying out of emotion.


 

[ilocorB 548]

46 minutes ago, Ferrer Zorola said:

vegan food is way more expensive and hard to find and every now and then one's gonna want to relapse so yes, it is hard 

This is something i don't understand, because i starved so much while I was an omnivore. I can't count how many time I ate ramen noodles or went dumpster diving at -30celcius in the winter to get food because I spent so much money on a standard brick of cheese or a piece of meat and couldn't afford eating 3 meals a day. A pack or can of beans/lentils is really cheap for example and most of vegetables and fruit are cheap, even for me that lives in a country where more than 80% of its food is from another country and produce are pricier than other places (Canada). I agree that there are vegan products that are expensive, mostly frozen "meats" are, but it's the same for fancy pieces of meat or something like that. There are a lot of products that I buy that are affordable and comparable to the prices of the non-vegan ones. 

As a really poor student, veganism really helped me, as I can afford way much more food than i did before.

 

edit (i forgot to say that aha): I am now living in a really small town in the middle of nowhere in Canada and i was freaking out about the idea of not being able to find vegan food, but they sell vegan products that I thought I would only find in the city. It's harder for restaurants though!

[ilocorB 548]

Me wanting to comment more on this thread but @Anastasia answers are so good and said in a nice and respectful way that I don't have anything else to say