NY Times: Clinton wins popular vote with larger margin than JFK

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

Just now, Supersonic said:

When I copy pasted the left entire column of the site came with it and I tried to delete most of the mess I guess I forgot some

i had a hunch

[DrewStevens 5,249]

15 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000. Kerry was the Democratic nominee in 2004

Oh yeah you're right.

Kerry was such a forgettable person 

[FLP13 159]

1 hour ago, Gaga Monster said:

Getting rid of the Electoral College would be like picking the Superbowl Champion by who scored the most points every year.

The Electoral College is like the NFL. They don't add your total points together at the end of the season, they count the games you won.

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but the final result does depend on the final game...unlike the election....

[Gaga Monster 13,001]

13 minutes ago, FLP13 said:

but the final result does depend on the final game...unlike the election....

 

1 hour ago, Whispering said:

Lol, I read that comment a few times thinking...but the team with the most points in the game wins! I kept wondering if I was reading it wrong. 

 

1 hour ago, DrewStevens said:

How is democracy remotely similar to football?

And your comparison makes no sense anyway. The team that wins the most points in the SuperBowl wins the SuperBowl. 

The team that scores the most points don't always go to the super bowl. It is the team that wins the most games that go to the Super Bowl. That is what I meant

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2 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said:

 

It is the team that wins the most games that go to the Super Bowl. That is what I meant

That's not really true either, but I'm thinking you are confused about it all and just trying to make it make sense. It still doesn't. 

[DrewStevens 5,249]

4 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said:

 

 

The team that scores the most points don't always go to the super bowl. It is the team that wins the most games that go to the Super Bowl. That is what I meant

Still not related to the voting system.

If you want to compare the voting system to the NFL then you have to make the Election Day the Super Bowl in which the one who wins the most points wins the whole thing. Not the previous games because the previous games would be when they choose who represents the party.

[DrewStevens 5,249]

7 minutes ago, Whispering said:

That's not really true either, but I'm thinking you are confused about it all and just trying to make it make sense. It still doesn't. 

This.

The NFL regular season has a completely different system than play offs and super bowl. 

Regular Season: Points

Play Offs: Wins

Super Bowl: Score

 

[Goosey 3,017]

Electoral college is great! Without it, most states, or even those in general who live outside of major metropolitan areas would have little or no say, and since the nation is made up of states with much different cultures this is, IMO, far more important than counting every individual vote as equal 

[En_Sabah_Nur 9,366]

6 minutes ago, Goosey said:

Electoral college is great! Without it, most states, or even those in general who live outside of major metropolitan areas would have little or no say, and since the nation is made up of states with much different cultures this is, IMO, far more important than counting every individual vote as equal 

So just F the people in the big states/major metropolitan areas huh?!  

 

[Goosey 3,017]

1 minute ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

So just F the people in the big states/major metropolitan areas huh?!  

A state like California or New York still has much more of a say than one like Wisconsin  if the situation was reversed all of these people wouldn't be protesting the EC right now. Let's be real.

[En_Sabah_Nur 9,366]

Just now, Goosey said:

A state like California or New York still has much more of a say than one like Wisconsin  if the situation was reversed all of these people wouldn't be protesting the EC right now. Let's be real.

And if this kept happening to Republicans, then they would be the ones out protesting!  

 

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2 hours ago, Gaga Monster said:

Getting rid of the Electoral College would be like picking the Superbowl Champion by who scored the most points every year.

The Electoral College is like the NFL. They don't add your total points together at the end of the season, they count the games you won.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw9LBiqW8AACvPt.jpg:large

I agree with the Electoral College in a sense and I understand why the founding fathers wanted it. The problem is that the Electoral College isn't being used in the way it was intended. The purpose of it is to keep somebody like Donald Trump from ever reaching the White House. The electors are supposed to evaluate the candidates and see, "Okay, would this person put the United States in danger or do fundamental damage to it if he/she's president? Is this person qualified?" The purpose is to check the power of the people and make sure they're making a decision that isn't subjectively horrible. But the perception in this country is that we must follow EXACTLY what the people vote, and so for some reason, electors almost always followed the way people vote. That's fine in most elections. But if they're just reflecting the way people voted in their state already, what is really the purpose of it?

You could say it's so they pay attention to every single state, but I would say to that: why don't politicians today campaign solely in the states with the most electoral votes? The number of electoral votes is directly proportional to a state's population, so I'm confused how the electoral college prevents small states from being ignored any more than having a popular vote in each state would. It's the same sort of thing. 

I'm in favor of the Electoral College if it worked the way it was supposed to, and if it did, then neither Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump would've been elected president. Why? Because the president shouldn't be under FBI investigation (I voted for Hillary Clinton) and the president shouldn't be a bigot.