Marina IG Post

[weed 73,901]

 

What do you guys think about this?

I see a lot of people on tumblr (lol) offended about this and some are un-stanning her

I think this was stupid to post and makes me think she's not as woke as she used to be. Still gonna listen to her music though

[Gardevoir 9,823]

I don't understand. Can you explain?

[Ryusei 61,110]

lol ofc tumblr is unstanning her they're the ones this guy is parodying. A reason to stan her tbh

[FlopSlurper 34,336]

 

[weed 73,901]

2 minutes ago, Emigrante said:

I don't understand. Can you explain?

The costume is making fun of people who get "offended" all the time. While I agree there are some people who do get offended over nothing, the people who usually make fun of offended people are ignorant and use the "you're triggered" excuse to ignore sexism/racism/homophobia/etc. So I don't like that she's supporting that. 

[Anastasia 6,093]

This is a great post from reddit on people who whine about "PC culture" 
 

Spoiler

Political Correctness is a term used to describe the shifting of language tendencies to match expanding interpretations of the world. It's the difference between saying "congressman" and "congressperson" to reflect the changing demographics of the professional world. There was once a point in time that it was expected that elected representitives would predominately be men, so the generic term for someone who works in the US Congress would just be "congressman." There was no reason to call it otherwise because, to the vast majority of people for a vast majority of the time, congress was a male-dominated, male-centric place. When women started being elected to represent, people started adopting the word "congressperson" as the generic term for an individual who serves the US Congress. Shifting demographics meant shifting language in accordance to change. There certainly are congressmenjust as there are congresswomen, but the changes in demographics mean the generic term being applied to the profession was liberalized to reflect the mounting presence of people who couldn't reasonably be labelled generically as "congressmen." That is the essence of political correctness.

Redditors like to think "pee-cee" has ideological undertones because mindfulness of language and action are manifestations of shifting social climates. The prescribed alignment of ideology and linguistics as a mental short cut is seen in Reddit's similar alignment of ideology and web-surfing habits. As eloquently stated by /u/spazdor:

"go back to tumblr!" = "I am frightened and bewildered when people say stuff which sounds kind of like feminism and so I have decided that 'social justice' must just be a niche fad on an obscure website, rather than a cultural sea change which is leaving me behind"

(Source) https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes/comments/2yxswo/saw_this_troll_on_tumblr_one_of_us_one_of_us/cpe3bt9/

With tumblr's (manufactured) reputation as being a pee-cee space where people use horrible phrases like "uterus-bearer" and "constant consent," there is an overwhelming tendency for reddit to align the use of these phrases with whatever fuels their persecution complexes.

Reddit's misunderstanding of political correctness and linguistics is also manifested in its worship of comedians. Jerry Seinfeld, who reddit hates and thinks is unfunny until he makes a comment about "PC" culture, was recently featured in some news articles, with this excerpt standing out in particular:

“They just want to use these words: ‘That’s racist;’ ‘That’s sexist;’ ‘That’s prejudice... They don’t know what the f­—k they’re talking about.... My wife says to [my daughter], ‘Well, you know, in the next couple years, I think maybe you’re going to want to be hanging around the city more on the weekends, so you can see boys,’ You know what my daughter says? She says, ‘That’s sexist.’”

(Source edited for format) No longer available

Actually, Jerry, the assumption and prescription of wants and desires on feminine people has been the underlying historical force for sexism. What Reddit and Seinfeld have in common is that they have very specific standards for how prejudice is practiced: racism and sexism must be done in big, obvious, and ostentatious ways. It must be done by a persecutor to a specific persecuted person. Jerry Seinfeld, like redditors, takes no heed to the surreptitious and casual enforcement of sexist standards today and throughout history. No, it's not that offensive that Jerry's wife said her daughter might want to spend time around boys, but that doesn't mean it isn't an idea that's embedded in presumption.

Another example of horribly misconceived ideas on reddit is seen in this (long as ****) excerpt of George Carlin's take on the phrase "post-traumatic stress disorder." (Link to the video at the end of the excerpt.)

I don't like words that hide the truth. I don't words that conceal reality. I don't like euphemisms, or euphemistic language. And American English is loaded with euphemisms. Cause Americans have a lot of trouble dealing with reality. Americans have trouble facing the truth, so they invent the kind of a soft language to protest themselves from it, and it gets worse with every generation... I'll give you an example of that. There's a condition in combat. Most people know about it. It's when a fighting person's nervous system has been stressed to it's absolute peak and maximum... In the first world war, that condition was called shell shock. Simple, honest, direct language: two syllables, shell shock. Almost sounds like the guns themselves. That was seventy years ago. Then a whole generation went by and the second world war came along and very same combat condition was called battle fatigue. Four syllables now. Takes a little longer to say. Doesn't seem to hurt as much. Fatigue is a nicer word than shock. Shell shock! Battle fatigue. Then we had the war in Korea, 1950. Madison avenue was riding high by that time, and the very same combat condition was called operational exhaustion. Hey, were up to eight syllables now! And the humanity has been squeezed completely out of the phrase. It's totally sterile now. Operational exhaustion. Sounds like something that might happen to your car! Then of course, came the war in Viet Nam, which has only been over for about sixteen or seventeen years, and thanks to the lies and deceits surrounding that war, I guess it's no surprise that the very same condition was called post-traumatic stress disorder. Still eight syllables, but we've added a hyphen! And the pain is completely buried under jargon. Post-traumatic stress disorder. I'll bet you if we'd of still been calling it shell shock, some of those Viet Nam veterans might have gotten the attention they needed at the time. I'll betcha. I'll betcha.

(Here's a video of the bit for those who would prefer to hear the speech. The transcript is copy-pasted, but emphasis and ellipses were added by me)

Spoiler

 

 

Carlin's idea of shifting the language to describe trauma rests upon the idea that PTSD is and has been thoroughly understood ever since we first started noticing it, and that the language used to describe it has over time made it less personal as a way making the occurrence more palatable; however, this couldn't be further from the truth. "Shell Shock" is a self-evident phrase: it was treated as momentary shock to the nervous system: fleeting, ephemeral, and treated as a brand new phenomenon at the time. As redditor /u/PeppyHare66 posted in /r/askhistorians:

Dave Grossman, Author of the books On Killing and On Combat, makes the case that PTSD as we understand it today is a relatively modern calamity. He sites WWI as the first where PTSD becomes relavent. Unlike previous wars where 99% of a soldier's time was spent outside of combat, WWI carried the constant possibility that at any minute you're going to have to start killing people.

(Source)https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1u1267/did_ancientmed_evil_warriors_suffer_from_ptsd_to/cedoazt/

Because WWI was a new landscape of warfare, the effects it had on people (and history) weren't entirely appreciated at the time. The idea with "shell shock" was that young men came back from over seas after being shocked by a shelland just needed some time to cool off. There was very little heed to the long-term psychological effects of combat. Over time, as more research on diagnosis and treatment of trauma was done, the words used to describe the condition changed with our actual understanding of the facts that it wasn't a fleeting sensation, and it wasn't brought on only by combat. Our label for the phenomenon got more complicated as our understanding became more nuanced.

The reason we took that long tangent is because this idea of discounting inclusive and increasingly nuanced language is deep-rooted in reddit's sense of cultural entitlement and manufactured sense of persecution. Reddit chooses the words it's comfortable with and the words it not comfortable with because, interestingly enough, words have meaning beyond their definitions. A good example of this is reddit's all-important and ever-present distinction between pedophiles and ephebophiles. The fact is that social justice and political correctness will remain toxic subjects on reddit for as long as diversity, nuance, and inclusion are considered toxic subjects.

Added links for the sources

Edit: It's talking about reddit but it applies to A LOT of our culture

[Gardevoir 9,823]

Just now, neptugne said:

The costume is making fun of people who get "offended" all the time. While I agree there are people who do get offended over nothing, the people who usually make fun of said offended people are ignorant and use the "you're triggered" excuse to ignore sexism/racism/homophobia/etc. So I don't like that she's supporting that. 

that's what I thought. But seriously it is really easy to get offended nowadays. People are often exaggerating.

[weed 73,901]

2 minutes ago, Anastasia said:

This is a great post from reddit on people who whine about "PC culture" 
 

  Reveal hidden contents

Political Correctness is a term used to describe the shifting of language tendencies to match expanding interpretations of the world. It's the difference between saying "congressman" and "congressperson" to reflect the changing demographics of the professional world. There was once a point in time that it was expected that elected representitives would predominately be men, so the generic term for someone who works in the US Congress would just be "congressman." There was no reason to call it otherwise because, to the vast majority of people for a vast majority of the time, congress was a male-dominated, male-centric place. When women started being elected to represent, people started adopting the word "congressperson" as the generic term for an individual who serves the US Congress. Shifting demographics meant shifting language in accordance to change. There certainly are congressmenjust as there are congresswomen, but the changes in demographics mean the generic term being applied to the profession was liberalized to reflect the mounting presence of people who couldn't reasonably be labelled generically as "congressmen." That is the essence of political correctness.

Redditors like to think "pee-cee" has ideological undertones because mindfulness of language and action are manifestations of shifting social climates. The prescribed alignment of ideology and linguistics as a mental short cut is seen in Reddit's similar alignment of ideology and web-surfing habits. As eloquently stated by /u/spazdor:

"go back to tumblr!" = "I am frightened and bewildered when people say stuff which sounds kind of like feminism and so I have decided that 'social justice' must just be a niche fad on an obscure website, rather than a cultural sea change which is leaving me behind"

(Source) https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes/comments/2yxswo/saw_this_troll_on_tumblr_one_of_us_one_of_us/cpe3bt9/

With tumblr's (manufactured) reputation as being a pee-cee space where people use horrible phrases like "uterus-bearer" and "constant consent," there is an overwhelming tendency for reddit to align the use of these phrases with whatever fuels their persecution complexes.

Reddit's misunderstanding of political correctness and linguistics is also manifested in its worship of comedians. Jerry Seinfeld, who reddit hates and thinks is unfunny until he makes a comment about "PC" culture, was recently featured in some news articles, with this excerpt standing out in particular:

“They just want to use these words: ‘That’s racist;’ ‘That’s sexist;’ ‘That’s prejudice... They don’t know what the f­—k they’re talking about.... My wife says to [my daughter], ‘Well, you know, in the next couple years, I think maybe you’re going to want to be hanging around the city more on the weekends, so you can see boys,’ You know what my daughter says? She says, ‘That’s sexist.’”

(Source edited for format) No longer available

Actually, Jerry, the assumption and prescription of wants and desires on feminine people has been the underlying historical force for sexism. What Reddit and Seinfeld have in common is that they have very specific standards for how prejudice is practiced: racism and sexism must be done in big, obvious, and ostentatious ways. It must be done by a persecutor to a specific persecuted person. Jerry Seinfeld, like redditors, takes no heed to the surreptitious and casual enforcement of sexist standards today and throughout history. No, it's not that offensive that Jerry's wife said her daughter might want to spend time around boys, but that doesn't mean it isn't an idea that's embedded in presumption.

Another example of horribly misconceived ideas on reddit is seen in this (long as ****) excerpt of George Carlin's take on the phrase "post-traumatic stress disorder." (Link to the video at the end of the excerpt.)

I don't like words that hide the truth. I don't words that conceal reality. I don't like euphemisms, or euphemistic language. And American English is loaded with euphemisms. Cause Americans have a lot of trouble dealing with reality. Americans have trouble facing the truth, so they invent the kind of a soft language to protest themselves from it, and it gets worse with every generation... I'll give you an example of that. There's a condition in combat. Most people know about it. It's when a fighting person's nervous system has been stressed to it's absolute peak and maximum... In the first world war, that condition was called shell shock. Simple, honest, direct language: two syllables, shell shock. Almost sounds like the guns themselves. That was seventy years ago. Then a whole generation went by and the second world war came along and very same combat condition was called battle fatigue. Four syllables now. Takes a little longer to say. Doesn't seem to hurt as much. Fatigue is a nicer word than shock. Shell shock! Battle fatigue. Then we had the war in Korea, 1950. Madison avenue was riding high by that time, and the very same combat condition was called operational exhaustion. Hey, were up to eight syllables now! And the humanity has been squeezed completely out of the phrase. It's totally sterile now. Operational exhaustion. Sounds like something that might happen to your car! Then of course, came the war in Viet Nam, which has only been over for about sixteen or seventeen years, and thanks to the lies and deceits surrounding that war, I guess it's no surprise that the very same condition was called post-traumatic stress disorder. Still eight syllables, but we've added a hyphen! And the pain is completely buried under jargon. Post-traumatic stress disorder. I'll bet you if we'd of still been calling it shell shock, some of those Viet Nam veterans might have gotten the attention they needed at the time. I'll betcha. I'll betcha.

(Here's a video of the bit for those who would prefer to hear the speech. The transcript is copy-pasted, but emphasis and ellipses were added by me)

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

Carlin's idea of shifting the language to describe trauma rests upon the idea that PTSD is and has been thoroughly understood ever since we first started noticing it, and that the language used to describe it has over time made it less personal as a way making the occurrence more palatable; however, this couldn't be further from the truth. "Shell Shock" is a self-evident phrase: it was treated as momentary shock to the nervous system: fleeting, ephemeral, and treated as a brand new phenomenon at the time. As redditor /u/PeppyHare66 posted in /r/askhistorians:

Dave Grossman, Author of the books On Killing and On Combat, makes the case that PTSD as we understand it today is a relatively modern calamity. He sites WWI as the first where PTSD becomes relavent. Unlike previous wars where 99% of a soldier's time was spent outside of combat, WWI carried the constant possibility that at any minute you're going to have to start killing people.

(Source)https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1u1267/did_ancientmed_evil_warriors_suffer_from_ptsd_to/cedoazt/

Because WWI was a new landscape of warfare, the effects it had on people (and history) weren't entirely appreciated at the time. The idea with "shell shock" was that young men came back from over seas after being shocked by a shelland just needed some time to cool off. There was very little heed to the long-term psychological effects of combat. Over time, as more research on diagnosis and treatment of trauma was done, the words used to describe the condition changed with our actual understanding of the facts that it wasn't a fleeting sensation, and it wasn't brought on only by combat. Our label for the phenomenon got more complicated as our understanding became more nuanced.

The reason we took that long tangent is because this idea of discounting inclusive and increasingly nuanced language is deep-rooted in reddit's sense of cultural entitlement and manufactured sense of persecution. Reddit chooses the words it's comfortable with and the words it not comfortable with because, interestingly enough, words have meaning beyond their definitions. A good example of this is reddit's all-important and ever-present distinction between pedophiles and ephebophiles. The fact is that social justice and political correctness will remain toxic subjects on reddit for as long as diversity, nuance, and inclusion are considered toxic subjects.

Added links for the sources

This is really well written! 

[Pierre 10,480]

It's true, sorry. Sometimes you can't say something online without anybody feeling offended or excluded. 

[DeanWinchester 41,390]

I mean some issues do require people to get offended, but these days, even the smallest crap triggers people 

[Battle 4 Ur Life 6,716]

 

8 minutes ago, Ryusei said:

lol ofc tumblr is unstanning her they're the ones this guy is parodying. A reason to stan her tbh

lol

he cosplayin' the op.

[Anastasia 6,093]

5 minutes ago, neptugne said:

This is really well written! 

I should've included the writer but I forgot ha, his/her account is /u/zegafregaomega

Here's the link: 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Negareddit/comments/39bjs7/redditors_dont_understand_what_political/

I thought it was amazing when I came across it, I can't stand when people complain about how freedom of speech is somehow being taken away from them, but I'm not very eloquent and I'm a bit too immature to keep my cool in a 'debate' so I've been linking this whenever the topic comes up.

[StarstruckIllusion 52,790]

Yikes. Remember when she had all those gay fans? I guess she's pressed they all left her. 

[DeleteMyAccount 11,881]

2 minutes ago, Anastasia said:

This is a great post from reddit on people who whine about "PC culture" 
 

  Hide contents

Political Correctness is a term used to describe the shifting of language tendencies to match expanding interpretations of the world. It's the difference between saying "congressman" and "congressperson" to reflect the changing demographics of the professional world. There was once a point in time that it was expected that elected representitives would predominately be men, so the generic term for someone who works in the US Congress would just be "congressman." There was no reason to call it otherwise because, to the vast majority of people for a vast majority of the time, congress was a male-dominated, male-centric place. When women started being elected to represent, people started adopting the word "congressperson" as the generic term for an individual who serves the US Congress. Shifting demographics meant shifting language in accordance to change. There certainly are congressmenjust as there are congresswomen, but the changes in demographics mean the generic term being applied to the profession was liberalized to reflect the mounting presence of people who couldn't reasonably be labelled generically as "congressmen." That is the essence of political correctness.

Redditors like to think "pee-cee" has ideological undertones because mindfulness of language and action are manifestations of shifting social climates. The prescribed alignment of ideology and linguistics as a mental short cut is seen in Reddit's similar alignment of ideology and web-surfing habits. As eloquently stated by /u/spazdor:

"go back to tumblr!" = "I am frightened and bewildered when people say stuff which sounds kind of like feminism and so I have decided that 'social justice' must just be a niche fad on an obscure website, rather than a cultural sea change which is leaving me behind"

(Source) https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes/comments/2yxswo/saw_this_troll_on_tumblr_one_of_us_one_of_us/cpe3bt9/

With tumblr's (manufactured) reputation as being a pee-cee space where people use horrible phrases like "uterus-bearer" and "constant consent," there is an overwhelming tendency for reddit to align the use of these phrases with whatever fuels their persecution complexes.

Reddit's misunderstanding of political correctness and linguistics is also manifested in its worship of comedians. Jerry Seinfeld, who reddit hates and thinks is unfunny until he makes a comment about "PC" culture, was recently featured in some news articles, with this excerpt standing out in particular:

“They just want to use these words: ‘That’s racist;’ ‘That’s sexist;’ ‘That’s prejudice... They don’t know what the f­—k they’re talking about.... My wife says to [my daughter], ‘Well, you know, in the next couple years, I think maybe you’re going to want to be hanging around the city more on the weekends, so you can see boys,’ You know what my daughter says? She says, ‘That’s sexist.’”

(Source edited for format) No longer available

Actually, Jerry, the assumption and prescription of wants and desires on feminine people has been the underlying historical force for sexism. What Reddit and Seinfeld have in common is that they have very specific standards for how prejudice is practiced: racism and sexism must be done in big, obvious, and ostentatious ways. It must be done by a persecutor to a specific persecuted person. Jerry Seinfeld, like redditors, takes no heed to the surreptitious and casual enforcement of sexist standards today and throughout history. No, it's not that offensive that Jerry's wife said her daughter might want to spend time around boys, but that doesn't mean it isn't an idea that's embedded in presumption.

Another example of horribly misconceived ideas on reddit is seen in this (long as ****) excerpt of George Carlin's take on the phrase "post-traumatic stress disorder." (Link to the video at the end of the excerpt.)

I don't like words that hide the truth. I don't words that conceal reality. I don't like euphemisms, or euphemistic language. And American English is loaded with euphemisms. Cause Americans have a lot of trouble dealing with reality. Americans have trouble facing the truth, so they invent the kind of a soft language to protest themselves from it, and it gets worse with every generation... I'll give you an example of that. There's a condition in combat. Most people know about it. It's when a fighting person's nervous system has been stressed to it's absolute peak and maximum... In the first world war, that condition was called shell shock. Simple, honest, direct language: two syllables, shell shock. Almost sounds like the guns themselves. That was seventy years ago. Then a whole generation went by and the second world war came along and very same combat condition was called battle fatigue. Four syllables now. Takes a little longer to say. Doesn't seem to hurt as much. Fatigue is a nicer word than shock. Shell shock! Battle fatigue. Then we had the war in Korea, 1950. Madison avenue was riding high by that time, and the very same combat condition was called operational exhaustion. Hey, were up to eight syllables now! And the humanity has been squeezed completely out of the phrase. It's totally sterile now. Operational exhaustion. Sounds like something that might happen to your car! Then of course, came the war in Viet Nam, which has only been over for about sixteen or seventeen years, and thanks to the lies and deceits surrounding that war, I guess it's no surprise that the very same condition was called post-traumatic stress disorder. Still eight syllables, but we've added a hyphen! And the pain is completely buried under jargon. Post-traumatic stress disorder. I'll bet you if we'd of still been calling it shell shock, some of those Viet Nam veterans might have gotten the attention they needed at the time. I'll betcha. I'll betcha.

(Here's a video of the bit for those who would prefer to hear the speech. The transcript is copy-pasted, but emphasis and ellipses were added by me)

  Reveal hidden contents

 

 

Carlin's idea of shifting the language to describe trauma rests upon the idea that PTSD is and has been thoroughly understood ever since we first started noticing it, and that the language used to describe it has over time made it less personal as a way making the occurrence more palatable; however, this couldn't be further from the truth. "Shell Shock" is a self-evident phrase: it was treated as momentary shock to the nervous system: fleeting, ephemeral, and treated as a brand new phenomenon at the time. As redditor /u/PeppyHare66 posted in /r/askhistorians:

Dave Grossman, Author of the books On Killing and On Combat, makes the case that PTSD as we understand it today is a relatively modern calamity. He sites WWI as the first where PTSD becomes relavent. Unlike previous wars where 99% of a soldier's time was spent outside of combat, WWI carried the constant possibility that at any minute you're going to have to start killing people.

(Source)https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1u1267/did_ancientmed_evil_warriors_suffer_from_ptsd_to/cedoazt/

Because WWI was a new landscape of warfare, the effects it had on people (and history) weren't entirely appreciated at the time. The idea with "shell shock" was that young men came back from over seas after being shocked by a shelland just needed some time to cool off. There was very little heed to the long-term psychological effects of combat. Over time, as more research on diagnosis and treatment of trauma was done, the words used to describe the condition changed with our actual understanding of the facts that it wasn't a fleeting sensation, and it wasn't brought on only by combat. Our label for the phenomenon got more complicated as our understanding became more nuanced.

The reason we took that long tangent is because this idea of discounting inclusive and increasingly nuanced language is deep-rooted in reddit's sense of cultural entitlement and manufactured sense of persecution. Reddit chooses the words it's comfortable with and the words it not comfortable with because, interestingly enough, words have meaning beyond their definitions. A good example of this is reddit's all-important and ever-present distinction between pedophiles and ephebophiles. The fact is that social justice and political correctness will remain toxic subjects on reddit for as long as diversity, nuance, and inclusion are considered toxic subjects.

Added links for the sources

This is great. 

"Shifting demographics meant shifting language in accordance to change." 

THIS

I think the whole argument of "I'm offended" is off-putting. What does that even mean? Are we talking about people who get made that their favorite brand of toilet paper is out of business and they complain? Or is it when people call out racism, sexism, and homophobia and are "too offended"? That's why this post is bogus. I have legitimate things that I worry about everyday. People call me weak and fragile just because I have to go see a doctor about mental illness. Who cares? We know better. We're suppose to be educated and civilized. Otherwise, whatever Trump says is 100% okay.

[StarstruckIllusion 52,790]

9 minutes ago, neptugne said:

The costume is making fun of people who get "offended" all the time. While I agree there are some people who do get offended over nothing, the people who usually make fun of offended people are ignorant and use the "you're triggered" excuse to ignore sexism/racism/homophobia/etc. So I don't like that she's supporting that. 

@Ryusei reason to Stan cancelled