Susan Sarandon: "I won't vote for someone just because they're a woman"

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1 minute ago, Himeros26 said:

Girl why do you get so defensive whenever someone isn't in favor of Hillary. It really affects you  

Why don't you answer the question? You just generalized a group of people and not only was it rude, it was incorrect. 

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2 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Why don't you answer the question? You just generalized a group of people and not only was it rude, it was incorrect. 

Why didn't you answer mine? How did I know you were going to say that  

I pull from my personal experiences, many people don't agree with her tactics and policies. I've heard many people say "The only thing I don't like about her is the big money and the lies, but I'm still gonna vote for her!" You can link me to however many polls you want to, but her rigging of the election leads me to simply not trust anything in this election. 

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52 minutes ago, Himeros26 said:

Few agree with her policies. 

I don't think that's accurate. Her policies are pretty mainstream. Which ones did you have in mind?

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That's a valid and rational statement, I agree.

That said, may that rationale lead to her voting for the more qualified of the two in the context of this election. I agree, that the two party system can easily be seen as intrinsically flawed, but right now? We can't let that get in the way right now.

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2 minutes ago, Nemo said:

I don't think that's accurate. Her policies are pretty mainstream. Which ones did you have in mind?

They were mainstream after she borrowed from Bernie and Warren, hon. 

Her stances on college tuition and minimum wage, for instance.

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3 minutes ago, Himeros26 said:

Why didn't you answer mine? How did I know you were going to say that  

I pull from my personal experiences, many people don't agree with her tactics and policies. I've heard many people say "The only thing I don't like about her is the big money and the lies, but I'm still gonna vote for her!" You can link me to however many polls you want to, but her rigging of the election leads me to simply not trust anything in this election. 

You didn't have a question. 

So, many people you know personally are voting for her just because she is a woman, so you are assuming that the small group of people you know speaks for millions and millions of people? That's why your comment doesn't make sense.

The only rigging in this election is voter suppression of minorities that us happening right now across the country, but you probably don't care about that because you don't consider facts. 

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5 minutes ago, Himeros26 said:

They were mainstream after she borrowed from Bernie and Warren, hon. 

Her stances on college tuition and minimum wage, for instance.

Those two she did basically steal from them tbh  

But everything else she's talked about is pretty mainstream among liberals and Democrats. 

People like Bernie and Warren pushed Democrats more to the left. Hillary will have to at least try to legislate some of the things she's talked about. We all know she's a centrist. 

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5 minutes ago, Whispering said:

You didn't have a question. 

So, many people you know personally are voting for her just because she is a woman, so you are assuming that the small group of people you know speaks for millions and millions of people? That's why your comment doesn't make sense.

The only rigging in this election is voter suppression of minorities that us happening right now across the country, but you probably don't care about that because you don't consider facts. 

There were many different counts of voter suppression in the primaries as well, but you choose to turn a blind eye because the Clinton News Network turns one as well. 

I'm not going to argue with you because discussing anything to a Hillary supporter is basically like talking to a brick wall. But just so you know, I said, "Why do you get so defensive whenever someone isn't in favor of Hillary" 

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2 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

Those two she did basically steal from them tbh  

But everything else she's talked about is pretty mainstream among liberals and Democrats. 

People like Bernie and Warren pushed Democrats more to the left. Hillary will have to at least try to legislate some of the things she's talked about. We all know she's a centrist. 

Tbh, I'm mostly a centrist who supports Hillary, but I see the points Susan is making, albeit, like someone said above, now's not the right time to argue over a bipartisan reality and instead prevent the worse of two evils from achieving success

...Bernie would've slayed though had he been elected president, not gonna lie 

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3 minutes ago, Himeros26 said:

They were mainstream after she borrowed from Bernie and Warren, hon. 

Her stances on college tuition and minimum wage, for instance.

Hillary's stances were mainstream before she agreed to adopt some Bernie's more extreme versions of policies she already had. She raised the minimum wage requirement from $12 to $15 (which made way more sense anyhow) to a flat $15. She went from free community college for all, help with loans, and a new emphasis on trade schools (which makes more sense and also is better suited in the long run for at risk populations) to the one size fits all free tuition plan of Bernie's that will actually be next to impossible to achieve. 

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1 hour ago, Himeros26 said:

Many are, though. Few agree with her policies. 

Just gonna agree with @Whispering and say not many are voting for her just because she is a woman; I would go so far as to say there is a greater percentage of people not voting for Hillary because she is a woman rather than the opposite. A lot more people are voting Hillary because they really don't want to Trump to win, and that's more of the incentive right now than Hillary being the first female president

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I know an entire family of 7 that aren't voting for her because she's a woman. 

They are Cuban, if that's relevant. 

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Just now, Morphine Prince said:

I know an entire family of 7 that aren't voting for her because she's a woman. 

They are Cuban, if that's relevant. 

I also happen to know sexist people! Let's be friends that's so unique!  

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Just now, Azor Ahai said:

I also happen to know sexist people! Let's be friends that's so unique!  

 

Those are actually the only people I know who have said that about Hillary. 

On the flip side, 4 of my Republican voting relatives voted for Hillary this week. 

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4 minutes ago, Himeros26 said:

There were many different counts of voter suppression in the primaries as well, but you choose to turn a blind eye because the Clinton News Network turns one as well. 

I'm not going to argue with you because discussing anything to a Hillary supporter is basically like talking to a brick wall. But just so you know, I said, "Why do you get so defensive whenever someone isn't in favor of Hillary" 

Nope, I never ignored the voter suppression that happened with the caucuses in the primary. The caucuses are voter suppression, as the suppress the vote of those who have children and work for a living. They also suppress the vote from those who are in poverty and don't have transportation, the elderly, and the disabled. Those were the primaries that Bernie won. He won the primaries where voter suppression was evident. 

Talking to a bitter Bernie supporter is like talking to a brick wall.