Leo 3,000 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 So I can't find the article where I read this, but I remember seeing something that claimed that each episode referenced each season of the show. Episode 1: An American family move into a home and begin to experience paranormal goings on, like in Murder House. Episode 2: The murderous sister nurses pay homage to Asylum. Episode 3: Leslie Jordan and seances both feature, which were both dominant in Coven. Episode 4: I can't remember which one this was (lol) but I think references to the Mott family and Wes Bentley's character reflected Freak Show. Now, I wasn't sold on this theory, I thought it was quite a stretch, until I watched episode 5. Around 9 minutes in (SPOILERS) Evan Peters' character is attacked in his bed, and a sheet is thrown over him. He tears the sheet and climbs up, scarily similar to how Sally's victims would be sewn shut into the mattresses in Hotel. Now I'm convinced. I think this fits for this theme, meaning that now that we have covered each season, episode 6 is gonna do something huge. Thoughts? Another other tie-ins people can think off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakariah 11,722 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 The end of ep 5, they stay in a hotel so I guess that's also part of the theory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 43,097 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 YES!! I noticed that too! I knew of this theory, and I'd sort of noticed them myself before reading about it online! And as soon as I saw him get trapped in the bedsheet my brain went "DING! HOTEL REFERECE!" Apparently episode 6 is going to be a plot twist. And they've just been shown to escape the house. The teaser for the next episode shows Cheyenne Jackson directing the Roanoke documentary, and nothing else about the episode. All they showed is him saying "never stop rolling the cameras" this tells me that they will be 'filming' the rest of the season themselves! Maybe they go back to the house and 'never stop rolling the cameras' as things go down. I bet the storyline continues on with the real characters instead of the reenactment characters. The fourth wall is broken! But then what happens to the reenactment characters... I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 43,097 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 1 minute ago, Zakariah said: The end of ep 5, they stay in a hotel so I guess that's also part of the theory Lol omg both the OP and I noticed the bedsheet reference, and I don't think either of us noticed that... I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 What is the 4th wall? @Helxig FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,100 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 So, episode 6 is the true "season 6" I suppose. Can't wait. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo 3,000 Posted October 13, 2016 Author Share Posted October 13, 2016 1 minute ago, YourSweet666 said: What is the 4th wall? @Helxig It's like, an old film set has 3 walls, the 4th is where the camera goes. When something "breaks the 4th wall" it draws attention to the fact that it's a tv show/film. Like, if someone looks into the camera and talks to the audience, it breaks the illusion that it's all real and reminds you it's all fake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 43,097 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said: What is the 4th wall? @Helxig Uhh how do I explain it... it's an acting/theatre term, based off the fact they usually act in a room with 3 walls, and we are essentially watching 'through' the fourth wall of the room. If the actor talks to the audience they've 'broken the fourth wall'. That's the simplest meaning, but it's used more broadly these days. For example, when Lee was doing the documentary, then told them to shut off the cameras, and it cut to us actually looking at the set that she was being filmed in, they 'broke the fourth wall' by showing us the set around her instead of the footage of her. Because in that moment we are being shown that it's all part of a production. The immersion is broken. I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,100 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, Helxig said: YES!! I noticed that too! I knew of this theory, and I'd sort of noticed them myself before reading about it online! And as soon as I saw him get trapped in the bedsheet my brain went "DING! HOTEL REFERECE!" Apparently episode 6 is going to be a plot twist. And they've just been shown to escape the house. The teaser for the next episode shows Cheyenne Jackson directing the Roanoke documentary, and nothing else about the episode. All they showed is him saying "never stop rolling the cameras" this tells me that they will be 'filming' the rest of the season themselves! Maybe they go back to the house and 'never stop rolling the cameras' as things go down. I bet the storyline continues on with the real characters instead of the reenactment characters. The fourth wall is broken! But then what happens to the reenactment characters... The fourth wall wouldn't be broken in this case, right? Them being actors is still part of the whole show. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 43,097 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, FATCAT said: The fourth wall wouldn't be broken in this case, right? Them being actors is still part of the whole show. Hmm maybe not actually! I've heard the term used in this way before, but maybe that wasn't the correct usage either. Actually now that I think about it's kinda the opposite... they go from talking to the camera, to us viewing them being filmed/off set. This season has the potential to get so meta I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,100 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Just now, Helxig said: Hmm maybe not actually! I've heard the term used in this way before, but maybe that wasn't the correct usage either. Actually now that I think about it's kinda the opposite... they go from talking to the camera, to us viewing them being filmed/off set. This season has the potential to get so meta It's the fourth wall in the show, but the shows shows show never breaks the fourth wall. Jesus it's like inception. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo 3,000 Posted October 13, 2016 Author Share Posted October 13, 2016 The 4th wall and meta references can be blurred. Like, AHS kinda breaks the wall every season, by reusing actors from other stories, and we're constantly looking for hints and references to other seasons. So I suppose it's more meta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisTEAne 21,059 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 breaking the 4th wall is a stylistic term that was originally used in the context of the brechtian theater. then, as the medium of film became the prominent form of entertainment and as filmology is a multimedial discipline, meaning it's an amalgamation of various fields of study (e.g., literary theory, cognitive psychology), the term was implemented in film theory and history. as for meta, it's rather a conceptual term. in short, i'd say that the first describes the cinematic aspect (photography) of the medium, while the latter is constructed in the writing room (narrative). if you hurt taylor swift, i'll hurt you back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebs 1,809 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 also in the 5th episode Evan Peters plays the first owner of the Roanoke mansion, just like he played the first owner of the Hotel Cortez last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazme Pillay 137 Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I have this theory.. Next week, we're probably going to get "found-footage" style material of the behind the scenes making of My Roanoke Nightmare; Cheyenne's character is probably the producer/director of the show and he's keeping a diary of the show's production. So what if the re-enactment sequences in My Roanoke Nightmare were actually filmed on location? That would mean that the set was surely haunted and some **** went down. So, baring in mind that Brad Falchuk said ep 1-5 is its own thing (the documentary of course) and so are ep 6-9 and 10 on its own, my theory is that something went horribly wrong while filming My Roanoke Nightmare and it was all captured on Cheyenne's video diary which we will see in episodes 6-9. Then episode 10 will end up being about an investigation into the incidents of filming My Roanoke Nightmare and we'd learn that the actual documentary (ep 1-5) and the director's video diary (ep 6-9) are all evidence in a case that results in the conservation of the land to avoid any future deaths. Sorry for the essay. But like. Ideas. **** good art Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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