PUKKIE 457 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 40 minutes ago, KinneyUnderYou said: loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool stopppp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E24187 615 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Where's the achievement tag? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaveAnOysterBBy 796 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 hours ago, Britney Spears said: Can we talk about how badly the song flopped I wanted it to atleast crack the top 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 hours ago, JaneTheC said: 99% of posts in this thread are gonna be sexual and only 1% are gonna be about the song flopping most monsters claimed it'll be below 60 on week 2, and here it is 4th week still hanging on Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatAsianGuy 2,365 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Hmmm hot... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E24187 615 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 IDK if we can say Perfect Illusion flopped, top 15 is nothing to sneeze at. Definitely underperformed for a lead single. That's pretty evident. Perfect Illusion is performing like a 5th single. She can say all she wants that she didn't intend for it to be a huge hit, but that song was going to be dead in the water after the first week even if the video was simultaneously dropped when the song was released, given the type of video we got. If anything, the song was a flash in the pan. Hot for like 3 days then fell into obscurity. Same with Judas and The Edge of Glory. (TEOG could've been an even bigger smash, she sabotaged herself with that video). An outright flop would be a Marry The Night or G.U.Y. or Eh Eh, but even then, it's an off comparison since none of those songs were debut singles. I've been saying this since Born This Way, but Lady Gaga's struggle isn't peaking, it's sustainability. Since Born This Way (the single), really only Applause was able to hold its own for a while. The rest of the singles from BTW, AP and Joanne had decent peaks, then dropped like a hot potato. The Edge of Glory and Do What You Want had potential but she (and/or the label) pulled the plug on that themselves. Getting people to listen a few times initially isn't the challenge. Keeping them listening is. Without sustainability, eras come to an end real quick. I'd rather have a slew of top 5 singles that never went #1 but stayed in the top 5 for a few weeks than a bunch of songs that went from #1 to like #36 the very next week then like #87 the next. Unfortunately, she's at the point where neither are happening. Her talent doesn't deserve this type of underwhelming chart run. It's sad, really. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Interscope started tightening the reigns on her. Music not the bling, but it's still a business at the end of the day. All the other labels are watching so it's not like they'd give her any more leg room than what Interscope did and she'd be shooting herself in the foot if she were to TRULY go IndieGa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyoha 1,613 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, E24187 said: IDK if we can say Perfect Illusion flopped, top 15 is nothing to sneeze at. Definitely underperformed for a lead single. That's pretty evident. Perfect Illusion is performing like a 5th single. She can say all she wants that she didn't intend for it to be a huge hit, but that song was going to be dead in the water after the first week even if the video was simultaneously dropped when the song was released, given the type of video we got. If anything, the song was a flash in the pan. Hot for like 3 days then fell into obscurity. Same with Judas and The Edge of Glory. (TEOG could've been an even bigger smash, she sabotaged herself with that video). An outright flop would be a Marry The Night or G.U.Y. or Eh Eh, but even then, it's an off comparison since none of those songs were debut singles. I've been saying this since Born This Way, but Lady Gaga's struggle isn't peaking, it's sustainability. Since Born This Way (the single), really only Applause was able to hold its own for a while. The rest of the singles from BTW, AP and Joanne had decent peaks, then dropped like a hot potato. The Edge of Glory and Do What You Want had potential but she (and/or the label) pulled the plug on that themselves. Getting people to listen a few times initially isn't the challenge. Keeping them listening is. Without sustainability, eras come to an end real quick. I'd rather have a slew of top 5 singles that never went #1 but stayed in the top 5 for a few weeks than a bunch of songs that went from #1 to like #36 the very next week then like #87 the next. Unfortunately, she's at the point where neither are happening. Her talent doesn't deserve this type of underwhelming chart run. It's sad, really. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Interscope started tightening the reigns on her. Music not the bling, but it's still a business at the end of the day. Nah, it definitely flopped by Gaga standards. She's not a nobody and if she had released a major bop it would have longevity. A flop isn't defined by its peak position; it's defined by not having longevity. I don't think PI will be able to stay for more than 8 weeks on that chart. PS: I really like PI but yeah it flopped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipthistea 21,099 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 GUY teas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werk 13,166 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I WANT IT IN THE TOP TENS AND I WANT IT THERE NOW!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,565 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 sigh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GABEL 1,853 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 G. U. Y 76-out Queen of outdoing her last single Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakariah 11,718 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Calling a #15 peak position a 'flop' is so offensive is so offensive to up & coming new artists who can't even crack the BUBBLING UNDER HOT 100 CHART yet. #15 is a hit not a flop. OP: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceGaga 7,585 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 There is still album promotion, car pool and other live tv performances to go so it may Rise () Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnn 66 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 46 minutes ago, Hyoha said: Nah, it definitely flopped by Gaga standards. She's not a nobody and if she had released a major bop it would have longevity. A flop isn't defined by its peak position; it's defined by not having longevity. I don't think PI will be able to stay for more than 8 weeks on that chart. PS: I really like PI but yeah it flopped. Bookmarking this! 8 weeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryhanna 3,507 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 50 minutes ago, Hyoha said: Nah, it definitely flopped by Gaga standards. She's not a nobody and if she had released a major bop it would have longevity. A flop isn't defined by its peak position; it's defined by not having longevity. I don't think PI will be able to stay for more than 8 weeks on that chart. PS: I really like PI but yeah it flopped. I know people will try and excuse it by saying things like "it went top 15, that's still good!" But like, yeah, it's not a bad position, but it only made it there because Gaga's pre-existing fanbase were always going to buy the song as soon as it came out no matter what. Having a decent debut because of a loyal fanbase doesn't equate to the song connecting with a wide audience or being a hit. I love PI and personally I feel like it deserves to do a lot better than it has, but let's be real, it's not a hit not even close Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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