DrewStevens 5,249 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Fay said: Most liberals want to censor free speech and thats why sites like youtube and twitter and removing anything offensive and that comes from the left.. you also see it in collage campuses, Black Lives Matters, Feminists and the Media so its a big problem even if its not the majority, its effect is big specially that government want to support them because they hand government more control. Yes its not the majority but thats where the left is heading while the right is heading towards classic liberty and libertarianism. I never said I was registered as a Libertarian nor did I say I was a citizen.. I also know that the US have boarders, im just explaining to you why I care about America as it effects my life dramatically because America is the biggest government that ever existed that it entered all countries and control it thats what I men with it doesnt have boarders. You don't have freedom of speech in YouTube to begin with. They can censor whatever they want to censor because it's privately owned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Fay said: Most liberals want to censor free speech and thats why sites like youtube and twitter and removing anything offensive and that comes from the left.. you also see it in collage campuses, Black Lives Matters, Feminists and the Media so its a big problem even if its not the majority, its effect is big specially that government want to support them because they hand government more control. Yes its not the majority but thats where the left is heading while the right is heading towards classic liberty and libertarianism. Once again, I see where you're coming from but I disagree I think to avoid talking in circles, and because my cognitive abilities are falling off a steep cliff as the night goes on (it's 3AM here, I should've been in bed at least four hours ago), I'll just have to say we'll agree to disagree and be done with it And friendly reminder, yes, yes, PartyMod is alive and well, please keep the discussions friendly. There's no need to write off someone else's opinion. Either form a constructive argument or move along please Spoiler Generally speaking, not targeted at anyone in particular Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, Whispering said: Haven't you noticed that those who support Trump are the ones who have had racist, homophobic and misogynistic opinions here? Coincidence? Of course not. These two have had negative opinions about Black Lives Matter since the beginning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, DrewStevens said: You don't have freedom of speech in YouTube to begin with. They can censor whatever they want to censor because it's privately owned. I wasnt talking about Youtube only but yes I do know that these sites are privately owned.. im just saying these demands of censorship is coming from the left on these sites and other places and it really is starting to take effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, PartySick said: There's no need to worry about your American brothers' and sisters' gun rights. Trust me. They're fine Oh my Lord despite what it says directly on hillaryclinton.com? I already went through this convo, I believe. And of course, there's the fact Hillary won't release her list of potential nominees. 9 minutes ago, PartySick said: We also face a (dying) threat in the form of ISIS and her service as Secretary of State is an invaluable resource in that fight But ISIS formed and Syria and Lybia burned while she was acting as Secretary of State... reportedly, she refused Gaddafi's request for a ceasefire... was that good experience, or as Trump said, "bad experience"? "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, Fay said: I wasnt talking about Youtube only but yes I do know that these sites are privately owned.. im just saying these demands of censorship is coming from the left on these sites and other places and it really is starting to take effect. Some of those demands actually make sense unlike the demans of many conservatives who want to boycott the NFL because someone doesn't "respect" the anthem or a TV show because they showed a gay kiss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 By the way, @PartySick Here are the main things that I, and "folks", are worried about (in no particular order): 1. nomination of justices who could overturn Heller, or rule that the 2nd Amendment does not protect MSRs, etc. 2. federal "assault weapons" ban 3. repeal of PLCAA, opening door for frivolous lawsuits and the death of the American gun industry 4. UBC "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Goosey said: Oh my Lord despite what it says directly on hillaryclinton.com? I already went through this convo, I believe. And of course, there's the fact Hillary won't release her list of potential nominees. But there's a difference between comprehensive reform for safety measures and an outright ban or standing in the way of someone's right to own a gun. And yes, you have went through this conversation. Like, a million times already I'm not sure why you expect a different response each time the gun debate is brought up 4 minutes ago, Goosey said: But ISIS formed and Syria and Lybia burned while she was acting as Secretary of State... reportedly, she refused Gaddafi's request for a ceasefire... was that good experience, or as Trump said, "bad experience"? ISIS formed while Bush was president and honestly, I'll let someone who's more informed on that whole issue answer that bit. I can only offer the general statement that there's no such thing as "bad experience". You either succeed or you learn a lesson. Of course, that's kind of insensitive considering people's lives have been lost but war is war... Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, PartySick said: But there's a difference between comprehensive reform for safety measures and an outright ban or standing in the way of someone's right to own a gun. See my post above—also, 2nd prohibits "infringement" on RKBA. And the arms protected were mentioned in Heller. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Goosey said: By the way, @PartySick Here are the main things that I, and "folks", are worried about (in no particular order): 1. nomination of justices who could overturn Heller, or rule that the 2nd Amendment does not protect MSRs, etc. 2. federal "assault weapons" ban 3. repeal of PLCAA, opening door for frivolous lawsuits and the death of the American gun industry 4. UBC Good! Great! I'll bookmark this and get back to you with my thoughts when I'm not in a partial coma Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, DrewStevens said: Some of those demands actually make sense unlike the demans of many conservatives who want to boycott the NFL because someone doesn't "respect" the anthem or a TV show because they showed a gay kiss. Someone boycotting something is a personal choice and you should have the right to do that as it does not infringe on the rights of others.. its not like they wanted to create a law to remove the NFL or the player. censoring others freedom of speech is infringing on others freedom and rights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SychosSoChic 9,995 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 This thread First world child proclaiming to know what Hell is,thinking it's having to choose between Hilary and Trump, has clearly never seen 3rd World Politics in action 1 hour ago, Fay said: Base your system and laws on morality which means people should fully have their individual rights and freedom aslong as it does not hurt anyone. Why does my neighbors have the right to vote on who I marry when we are both consenting adults? why is my neighbors voting on weather I can **** my wife anally and orally? why ant I take drugs and be a prostitute if I want? I am a Libertarian and you can support something else but democracy is just another or better form of dictatorship. The reason why your ideology simply does not work is very simple. Not everyone agrees with your one-sided viewpoint on what is "Moral". What I think is "moral" is COMPLETELY different from what Trump's supporters think, some of which are just ITCHING to lynch a black kid again without getting punished, and you proclaim that instead of voting for the most liberal, most diplomatic, most stable option, we should all either not vote or vote for the Libertarian party who stand about as much chance of winning this election as an ice cube staying frosty in Hell. You do not offer liberty, you offer anarchy in the most deceiving package possible. Life ain't Hollywood for any one of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCpro 14,846 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I'm genuinely curious, can someone please explain why so many people hate Hillary? Is it because of the email thing? And didn't the FBI find there was no wrongdoing or something? Someone please help me out I'm so lost 08, 09, 11, 13, 16, 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 13 minutes ago, SychosSoChic said: What I think is "moral" is COMPLETELY different from what Trump's supporters think, some of which are just ITCHING to lynch a black kid again without getting punished, and you proclaim that instead of voting for the most liberal, most diplomatic, most stable option, we should all either not vote or vote for the Libertarian party who stand about as much chance of winning this election as an ice cube staying frosty in Hell. You do not offer liberty, you offer anarchy in the most deceiving package possible. Morality is a objective opinion not a subjective.. just because some people are incapable of being objective, that is not proof that morality is subjective! morality is simply allowing anyone to live however they want aslong as they dont hurt anyone as it is their individual and personal freedom. Thats is the only rule to morality and that is what will keep humanity from doing horrible things instead of this subjective opinions being voted to benefit yourself and morality keeps changing like gays can have their right taken away. In this system, nobody can be allowed to lynch a black person. I never said you should vote the Libertarian party, I wouldnt vote for that either. You should change the system of your country and remove democracy and only vote for a Libertarian if he truly is a Libertarian and clearly Garry Johnson is not even close to being one. Voting for a third party might not win this election but it will help the country for the long run as people will be exposed to other parties. I dont know how you concluded that I offer Anarchy!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, iCpro said: I'm genuinely curious, can someone please explain why so many people hate Hillary? Is it because of the email thing? And didn't the FBI find there was no wrongdoing or something? Someone please help me out I'm so lost The girl's been in the game a long time and made plenty of enemies The two biggest "scandals" I see are the emails and Benghazi. She was cleared of wrongdoing with the emails, though she admitted to and apologized for being careless. With Benghazi, if anyone is to blame (aside from the actual attackers), it's the Republican controlled congress that voted to slash the embassy defense budget. There's a fair amount of bias that's especially obvious when looking at similar events during the Bush admin. 13 embassies were attacked, 66 people died, there wasn't a single investigation. Under Obama (and while Hillary was secretary of state), there were two attacks, four deaths, and 13 investigations that turned up no wrong doing on Hillary's part and yet they still hammer her with the same nonsense over and over again. So basically this: Spoiler Although, she's not without her faults. She does shoot herself in the foot from time to time but never anywhere near the massive scale that Trump does. She just can't get away with the smallest blunder, most likely because of that bias I spoke about earlier. I don't like to pull the "woman card" but that's the only legitimate reason I can see Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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