Goosey 3,017 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, En_Sabah_Nur said: You worry about gun rights then, and I'll worry about LGBTQ rights then & we can agree to disagree & call it a damn day! Both are of concern to me "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, Unites said: Okay, my bad. Your system isn't as bad as dictatorship. You've rights. The right to vote on two of the most #@&%$*/!@#×%$@# (fill in whatever you like) people of your country! Congrats! The US is a mess but Americans are still privileged in many ways compared to almost every third world country in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Real Gaga 7,582 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, AlexanderLevi2 said: Cringey. Im not trying to say we are the best country because we aren't but I'm just saying that there's much much worse... I mean North Korea, Ethiopia, Iraq, Syria... And the list goes on. Of course, I know that, sweetheart. I overstated my point knowingly. You are a modern country, but the USA could so much improve in the nation's political system. The current system is so unfair, corrupt and bad. There are more democratic opportunities to make the system better and healthier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, Goosey said: Uh... that's a major reason to vote for Trump. See here: "When I first heard that Donald J. Trump was running for president I dismissed his candidacy as a form of public theater ... I was well and truly pissed off that Mr. Trump was the Republican party’s chosen candidate ... What could a man of good conscience do? Third party? Not with the Libertarian candidate picking an anti-gun Massachusetts governor as his Vice Presidential running mate. Abstain? And set an example for equally disillusioned gun voters? Nope. If gun rights were at stake — as they always are — I had to vote for the lesser of two evils. A man I’d come to detest." http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/08/robert-farago/good-grief-finally-came-terms-donald-trump/ http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/07/robert-farago/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-donald-trump/ Because protecting guns is way more important than protecting the LGBTQ rights and other minorities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Real Gaga 7,582 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said: That's Life! That's a hell, literally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not The Real Gaga 7,582 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, DrewStevens said: Because protecting guns is way more important than protecting the LGBTQ rights and other minorities. True Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, DrewStevens said: Because protecting guns is way more important than protecting the LGBTQ rights and other minorities. Uh, it's a constitutional right. That means it is an LGBTQ and minority right. Also, Trump is pretty pro-LGBT. Until the NC law thing came up people were pretty surprised by him "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, Unites said: Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, Goosey said: Uh, it's a constitutional right. That means it is an LGBTQ and minority right. Also, Trump is pretty pro-LGBT. Until the NC law thing came up people were pretty surprised by him How can you be pro LGBT when you officially associate with a bunch of people who are currently anti LGBT and who want to take basic human rights away from them? Fvck the constitutional right of owning a damn object. People are being discriminated and their human rights are being threatened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
En_Sabah_Nur 9,366 Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, Unites said: That's a hell, literally. Is there a difference?! Egypt. W Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, DrewStevens said: How can you be pro LGBT when you officially associate with a bunch of people who are currently anti LGBT and who want to take basic human rights away from them? I don't associate with a bunch of people who are anti-LGBT. 8 minutes ago, DrewStevens said: Fvck the constitutional right of owning a damn object. People are being discriminated and their human rights are being threatened. Self-defence and security of home and nation is a human right. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Goosey said: I don't associate with a bunch of people who are anti-LGBT. Self-defence and security of home and nation is a human right. But Trump does associate with them... And self-defense with a gun is not a human right. That's stupid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 172,545 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 18 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said: New generation Republicans and conservatives are leaning more libertarian now and di support social freedom like gay rights for example.. Liberals however are tuning into regressives. I heard that they did rig the vote against bernie by many liberals but im not sure about that. Mm hmm, which is great! And extremism on both sides is toxic though I'm not sure how rabid progressive ideals turn regressive I assume you're using logic similar to what you've shared above about democracy being immoral so I would probably disagree with that bit too. There's a lot of conspiracies and scandals in this cycle, more than you can't count. There were plenty of scorn BernieBros, myself included, that were outraged at the slightest hint of foul play. An embarrassing bit of my history is that I actually swung over to Trump the day Bernie lost I lost my head for a bit. I guess that's what happens when you're so passionately behind someone that ends up falling short. Anyway, after looking at the objective facts and ignoring speculation, you see that Hillary won fairly and by a pretty wide margin. She was the obvious favorite then and Bernie handled his loss like a pro, even going as far as to work with her to shift her platform in an even more progressive direction. 27 minutes ago, Goosey said: Nope. If gun rights were at stake — as they always are — I had to vote for the lesser of two evils. A man I’d come to detest. You really are a one issue kind of guy, aren't you? 23 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said: You worry about gun rights then, and I'll worry about LGBTQ rights then & we can agree to disagree & call it a damn day! Exactly, we all have the topics that are most important to us! My main two are the environment (combating climate change) and education. Guess who excels in those areas and who falls flat on their behinds? Whimsical bitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Just now, DrewStevens said: But Trump does associate with them... That's not why I support Trump, and Hillary also associates with those people. Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states have donated millions upon millions to the Clinton foundation "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 1 minute ago, PartySick said: Mm hmm, which is great! And extremism on both sides is toxic though I'm not sure how rabid progressive ideals turn regressive I assume you're using logic similar to what you've shared above about democracy being immoral so I would probably disagree with that bit too. Progressives want more government and control on freedom of speech and many things like collage campuses and the internet and alot of them like to attack and accuse people or horrible things. I am not a ring wing or a leftist but I can agree with some right wing people from the new generation but progressives to me are insane and its getting worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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