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Is Gaga worth stanning in 2016?


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Bradley
1 minute ago, Britney Spears said:

Lol you people need to stop saying that to everyone :emma: Nobody asked for generic pop music.. PI is WAY more generic than Bad Romance or BTW or Applause.The melody is plain,the lyrics are also not Gaga at all and generic.Just because it doesn't sound like a 2016 song,it doesn't mean it's unique.It has no personality in it

It IS unique because the visuals so far delivered are quite punky and less avant-garde like those which she delivered in the past. I know you're referring to the song not her style of dressing but her vocals reflect how she dresses. There's zero pitch correction on this song like The Guardian said, which is so rare.

I know the chorus is repetitive but it's far from being generic. Every critic said that Perfect Illusion was nothing like anything that is on the radio right now. Just trust me, wait til you hear her sing live. She's going to blow us away with not her outfits or dancing or stage props but her vocals.

Btw Til It Happens To You is a great song imo and it received critical acclaim. Apparently the fans who hated the Dope vocals (which also received critical acclaim) did not evolve with the critics. Cheek to Cheek won a Grammy and sold 1.2 million copies worldwide. I'm sorry but Gaga has been doing good jobs and is in good shape, I don't get why y'all think she was boring, etc. because 

boring does not get you acclaim and sales, both of which Gaga had been constantly receiving.

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doppelganger
22 minutes ago, Britney Spears said:

Lol you people need to stop saying that to everyone :emma: Nobody asked for generic pop music.. PI is WAY more generic than Bad Romance or BTW or Applause.The melody is plain,the lyrics are also not Gaga at all and generic.Just because it doesn't sound like a 2016 song,it doesn't mean it's unique.It has no personality in it

Um i love BTW and Applause but those songs didn't have a melody. Strip the instrumentation away and you can't sing them. 

 

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Fiona Apple
17 minutes ago, Bradley Cooper said:

It IS unique because the visuals so far delivered are quite punky and less avant-garde like those which she delivered in the past. I know you're referring to the song not her style of dressing but her vocals reflect how she dresses. There's zero pitch correction on this song like The Guardian said, which is so rare.

I know the chorus is repetitive but it's far from being generic. Every critic said that Perfect Illusion was nothing like anything that is on the radio right now. Just trust me, wait til you hear her sing live. She's going to blow us away with not her outfits or dancing or stage props but her vocals.

Btw Til It Happens To You is a great song imo and it received critical acclaim. Apparently the fans who hated the Dope vocals (which also received critical acclaim) did not evolve with the critics. Cheek to Cheek won a Grammy and sold 1.2 million copies worldwide. I'm sorry but Gaga has been doing good jobs and is in good shape, I don't get why y'all think she was boring, etc. because 

boring does not get you acclaim and sales, both of which Gaga had been constantly receiving.

Hmm the looks don't make the song ITSELF better.(the vocals are the only good thing about the song, I do like them). I did mention that it sounds like nothing that is on the radio now but that doesn't make it good or unique.It sounds like many 80s songs.The biggest problem of the song is that the chorus barely has a melody.Listen to her older songs.They have actual choruses! This sounds like a pre-chorus that gets you ready for something big but the big thing never happens :p 

I do believe that TIHTY is a good song,it's way better than PI.It would not work as a lead obviously but it's a better song (even though the lyrics are not really my taste). And C2C was GREAT for what it was:An album with jazz covers.I wasn't interested in it because it was covers and songs that I already knew.

PI got mixed reviews (mostly negative from music fans and okay from the media) and is already falling on iTunes so yeah...

12 minutes ago, Bradley Cooper said:

@Britney Spears I'm sorry if that post sounded rude or offensive, but I'm reacting that way because some of you are criticising good songs.

You don't sound rude or offensive.It's just that PI itself (without the looks,the hype etc.) is a very average song. :p 

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Fiona Apple
1 minute ago, doppelganger said:

Um i love BTW and Applause but those songs didn't have a melody. Strip the instrumentation away and you can't sing them. 

 

What :emma::awkney: Watch the acoustic versions then.Both songs have strong melodies 

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doppelganger
5 minutes ago, Britney Spears said:

What :emma::awkney: Watch the acoustic versions then.Both songs have strong melodies 

It does not! Gaga's personality and piano skills carry the songs. Its verses and chorus are distinct/different songs. 

 

PI has a more conventional structure, but it does have a melody :)

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Fiona Apple
Just now, doppelganger said:

It does not! Gaga's personality and piano skills carry the songs. Its verses and chorus are distinct/different songs

Lmao not really. I am playing BOTH songs on piano and I can tell you that both songs have great melodies :emma: You can believe whatever you want. But I can't even understand where you are coming from.The catchiest thing about Gaga's hits are the melodies

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doppelganger
9 minutes ago, Britney Spears said:

Lmao not really. I am playing BOTH songs on piano and I can tell you that both songs have great melodies :emma: You can believe whatever you want. But I can't even understand where you are coming from.The catchiest thing about Gaga's hits are the melodies

Don't get me wrong i love those songs too, and i adore the acoustic performances. 

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Lord Temptation

What a ridiculous thread.

Nobody has a gun to your head.

Walking away isn't hard to do is it?

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It might be because I'm getting older but I personally think there's no point in stanning anyone. Life is hectic and the person a lot of people fall in love with when looking at a popstar / celebrity is a construction they've made with a PR team. Just enjoy what you enjoy, it ain't that deep.

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1 hour ago, Lord Temptation said:

What a ridiculous thread.

Nobody has a gun to your head.

Walking away isn't hard to do is it?

I think people still cling to her in hopes of the album being good, that is why people disappointed with the lead are still here. If the album bombs too, then the numbers will deplete for sure.

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Cody Draco
On Friday, September 09, 2016 at 6:17 PM, F AM E said:

Same. We need to start a support group for stans who don't like PI. Our disinterest in the song isn't because we have basic taste or because we're fake stans. It just wasn't that impressive to us. I wanna like it so bad but I don't and I don't know how to cope with that :giveup: I'm scared I'm not gonna like the album either

Same. I miss the days when I was excited to hear a new Gaga song but ever since C2C I've been steadily losing interest in her work. I respect and appreciate her as an artist and I'm sure I always will but she hasn't been putting out anything for me and that's okay. I don't know why there are some people on this site who believe she can please every single fan of her at all times. It's impossible for anybody to do let alone someone as polarizing as Gaga. Here's to hoping there's something on the album for every fan. :wub:

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Cody Draco
On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 3:39 AM, jupita said:

This conflict isn't going to resolve anything guys!! The question of "Is Gaga worth stanning for 2016?" shows that the person needs us to support them in whatever choices they decide and not guilt-trip them!! If you want to defend Gaga for whatever reason, I suggest instead of attacking the one confused individual, "grow up" and ask why? and see how we can help those that has lost hope to find the reason why they stanned for Gaga in the first place and encourage them the stay a little longer. Tbh, the only way to support Gaga is to keep her fandom harmoniously together and be there for one another!! NOT threatening and continuously attacking one another!!

Please treat one another's opinion with respect just like how you would to them face-to-face. I know it can be frustrating to see either some leave or reminiscing the past or new fans joining or some want to see Gaga do her thing (depending on what your position is), but we are talking masses of people on GGD! Attacking individuals is not the way to go. Who cares if some loved her past stuff more than the recent or visa versa. But because it is evident that there are more attacks made against the ones who liked her old music, I'm gonna say this, that it's also important for fans to like her old stuff because it's what Gaga herself did start from and it is her work. Some of you are criticising it as well.

Just remember, who are you to dictate and judge what others like honestly, especially in this fandom!  xx

This site needs so much more of this! Thank you so much for being a positive and accepting individual. :hug:

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