NewYorkCity 10,536 Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 3 hours ago, JDi said: "I killed my former and..." which was Gaga's way of saying that Born This Way Gaga was dead on this album." lol it's about being a chameleon, hence La Chameleon. if anything, it's a nod to Born This Was and being reborn over and over again. "Enigma pop star". "G.I.R.L. = Guy In Romantic Love" well that's just made up. there's the Guy I'm Romancin' Loves part that isn't. "Sexxx Dreams" talks about bisexuality" she did say she wrote it after her gay friend told her about a sex dream he had about her, but literally the only lyric that matches that story is "I heard your boyfriend was away this weekend". it's about bisexuality as much as Speechless was about her dad's heart surgery. the song is obviously about being in a relationship that doesn't allow her to be sexually liberated. she feels broken and stuck. the bi part is just implied so that there's more layers to the song i.e. her ARTPOP could mean anything. "Donatella" talks about fashion in a very shallow way the song is about Donatella Versace's make-up and kitsch being misunderstood and the Versace brand being all about highlife grotesque. it's about Donatella and Gaga (who wore Versace during the extremely ironic FAME promotional campaign so that she can look like a decadent rich fame *****) being ironic with the ugliness of the superficial fashion world. More contrast: "Mary Jane Holland" is a very pro-drug song. lol it's about not being able to party every night i.e. go through the tour without getting high"Mary Jane Holland" parallels the Greek myth of Apollo and Daphne throughout the whole song, but particularity in the second verse. The key is when Gaga sings about "turning" into Mary Jane Holland the same way that Daphne turned into a tree in the story. could be but that's plain reaching. the MJH character is her true self (the brunette) so the Daphne to tree analogy would be random af My point. Lol. Only what you think is right. even what Gaga says about her own song is not right for you For Aura, for example. The writer of the article gives an interpretation. You just gave another one. And I have a different one about what she means with that lyric and the whole song itself (obviously not going to waste time writing it for you, because you have the only valid one so). That's the thing, being able to read others and finding it interesting. But if you prefer it, you can keep your closed mind tho! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDi 1,495 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 10 minutes ago, NewYorkCity said: Miss the point according to you I don't need help to sleep at night, this is not that important to me. I just found it interesting. If you sleep better thinking that your way of seeing things is the only valid one, then good for you tho. oh please. some of those are just dumb. Donatella's irony for instance is the painfully obvious intention of it all. it's not some abstract painting we're talking about. give it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVID VOGUER 1,956 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I thought whole this time that G.I.R.L. stand for Guy I Really Like Good analysis of Aura but I think it has a different message, more like explaining her being controversial, artsy, person behind wigs and lipstick... Also I never get why people believed Gaga that DOPE is anti drug song... it's irony... that's why her voice sounds like that... it's ironic... no she doesn't need you, she will rather have drugs... it's the same vocals she used during the alejandro intro - tmb2.0 "I can't live without you, I can't breathe without you...yeah right." ARPTOP is very ironic or should I say reverse applause, donatella ? look majority of the songs through that lense and you will see it, I promise. The rest of analysis is great! They can't scare me, if I scare them first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himeros26 1,688 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 5 hours ago, Helxig said: It's "former and" meaning former version of herself This is the true meaning, yes. But Gaga was going to give the lyrics a bit of a more literal meaning if she would have made this the telephone sequel, obvi. She could mean "Former" as in former lover, tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkCity 10,536 Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 Just now, JDi said: oh please. some of those are just dumb. Donatella's irony for instance is the painfully obvious intention of it all. it's not some abstract painting we're talking about. give it up. king of the absolute truth please start a cult and educate us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDi 1,495 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, NewYorkCity said: My point. Lol. Only what you think is right. even what Gaga says about her own song is not right for you For Aura, for example. The writer of the article gives an interpretation. You just gave another one. And I have a different one about what she means with that lyric and the whole song itself. That's the thing, being able to read others and finding it interesting. But if you prefer it, you can keep your closed mind tho! ugh. ok Gertrude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDi 1,495 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Just now, NewYorkCity said: king of the absolute truth please start a cult and educate us I never said that my interpretation is the only possible one and I'm far from the art police you keep confusing me with. just having a hard time tolerating stupidity. you're begging for it at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterdino 31,991 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 THANK YOU! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkCity 10,536 Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 Just now, JDi said: I never said that my interpretation is the only possible one and I'm far from the art police you keep confusing me with. just having a hard time tolerating stupidity. you're begging for it at this point. forgive me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDi 1,495 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 1 minute ago, NewYorkCity said: forgive me only when you realize a cheeky pop song is not some geeky abstraction. you're supposed to have fun with it and not think about how fashion sucks only so that you can juxtapose it to the next one in the tracklist. that's dumb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookyelectric 3 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 This reinforces my love for ARTPOP even more! I already knew it had artistic depth while everyone else claimed it as a "pretentious thrash album". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stircrazy 86 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 5 hours ago, JDi said: "I killed my former and..." which was Gaga's way of saying that Born This Way Gaga was dead on this album." lol it's about being a chameleon, hence La Chameleon. if anything, it's a nod to Born This Was and being reborn over and over again. "Enigma pop star". "G.I.R.L. = Guy In Romantic Love" well that's just made up. there's the Guy I'm Romancin' Loves part that isn't. "Sexxx Dreams" talks about bisexuality" she did say she wrote it after her gay friend told her about a sex dream he had about her, but literally the only lyric that matches that story is "I heard your boyfriend was away this weekend". it's about bisexuality as much as Speechless was about her dad's heart surgery. the song is obviously about being in a relationship that doesn't allow her to be sexually liberated. she feels broken and stuck. the bi part is just implied so that there's more layers to the song i.e. her ARTPOP could mean anything. "Donatella" talks about fashion in a very shallow way the song is about Donatella Versace's make-up and kitsch being misunderstood and the Versace brand being all about highlife grotesque. it's about Donatella and Gaga (who wore Versace during the extremely ironic FAME promotional campaign so that she can look like a decadent rich fame *****) being ironic with the ugliness of the superficial fashion world. More contrast: "Mary Jane Holland" is a very pro-drug song. lol it's about not being able to party every night i.e. go through the tour without getting high"Mary Jane Holland" parallels the Greek myth of Apollo and Daphne throughout the whole song, but particularity in the second verse. The key is when Gaga sings about "turning" into Mary Jane Holland the same way that Daphne turned into a tree in the story. could be but that's plain reaching. the MJH character is her true self (the brunette) so the Daphne to tree analogy would be random af Why is the daphne reference wrong? Receipts: -the album cover features daphne. -sexxx dreams: "you could turn to stone (aka the physical statue of daphne) or damn petrified (like wood)" -MJH: "the grass heats up my insides and my brunette starts to sprout"(like a damn tree) honestly open your mind, you might learn something about yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 ARTPOP definitely has a lot going for it, in terms of substance. I don't agree with everything on what's posted on OP, but it's interesting nonetheless. In my opinion, where the album was mediocre sonically, it absolutely soared metaphorically and lyrically. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 1 hour ago, JDi said: oh please. some of those are just dumb.Donatella's irony for instance is the painfully obvious intention of it all. it's not some abstract painting we're talking about. give it up. Good point. I always interpreted it as both an adoration and critique of the fashion world. Fashion! seemed a lot more in tune with how she saw fashion as some deep, healing art form, imo. Donatella seemed more poking fun at high fashion culture, while still being in love with it, or smth. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrer Zorola 3,966 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 8 hours ago, StarryNight said: In the FIRST VERSE art talks to pop ("Come to me, in all your glamour and cruelty...") and in the SECOND VERSE pop talks to art ("Come to me, with all your subtext and fantasy...") In the CHORUS, they come together as ARTPOP. this is so well put together I never saw it that way in fact I never knew what it meant it's dope LIFE IS GOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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