mmm 879 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 17 minutes ago, Arturo said: How are Trump and Hillary the same on race issues? lol And don't bring up the crime bill when not only African American communities begged for some reform, but POC "heroes" Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders voted for it. Didn't the former write it? I did not say on race issue but even in race issue they are the same in different ways meaning the end result is the same and full of lies and corruption.. I was talking about Americans in general telling them they have nothing to lose as they are both as bad as each other so trying someone new and thats honest about the bad things they do is way better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 13 hours ago, Luc said: The black community in the US has a lot to lose and a lot to win. Voting Trump means losing more and being discriminated against more, while a Hillary win will lead to (for example) a decrease in gun violence (especially a problem among the afro-american population) thanks to gun restrictions. Hillary will also, in speeches for example, continue to build a stronger bridge between people who feel different. This will lead to less racism. A Trump win would legitimise hate crime, to an even bigger extent as what happened after Brexit in the UK. Recessions, much more likely to happen thanks to conservative policy and in particular Trump's isolationist and regressive economic ideas, are also known to hit minority groups the hardest. Meanwhile Hillary pledges to raise minimum wages, help out students without rich parents and to lower taxes for low incomes. The Democrats are the ones that drove the African American inner cities downhill by taxing them more and stealing there money. The Democrats continue to keep the African Americans poor by abandoning the cities, just like what Obama did, he promised so much to the inner cities and abandoned them. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 15 hours ago, DrewStevens said: Trump loves to pretend he cares about minorities when he wants to create more negativity around another minority group. First the LGBT and now black people. Hopefully people can see that the only two times he has addressed both in a positive way is when he wants to say something negative about refuges and Islam. Wants to create negativity? By admitting black people have a harder time in America? Smh. If Bernie said this you'd all be lapping it up. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 17 minutes ago, Gaga Monster said: The Democrats are the ones that drove the African American inner cities downhill by taxing them more and stealing there money. The Democrats continue to keep the African Americans poor by abandoning the cities, just like what Obama did, he promised so much to the inner cities and abandoned them. I didn't know Katrina Pierson had a GGD account, hey girl, hyd? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 19 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said: I did not say on race issue but even in race issue they are the same in different ways meaning the end result is the same and full of lies and corruption.. I was talking about Americans in general telling them they have nothing to lose as they are both as bad as each other so trying someone new and thats honest about the bad things they do is way better. So they're the same because they're the same? Love the argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Arturo said: I didn't know Katrina Pierson had a GGD account, hey girl, hyd? I am sorry I am just pointing out the facts. So sorry you can't face the reality about what they have been doing to the inner cities for the past 40-50 years. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Arturo said: So they're the same because they're the same? Love the argument. If you want to get into the argument of why they are the same we can do that.. If you accuse Trump of being racist against muslims well Hilary is even worse as she created many wars and is still proud of it and openly wants to create more of them while shaming obama for not being man enough to fight ISIS. If you say Trump is a sexist, Hilary is worse because she takes actions with her sexism like taking money and funding Saudi Arabia and shutting up her husbands rape victims and saying that women are the true victims of war not men who actually died. If you accuse Trump for accepting money from a former KKK member, well Hilary's endorses one of her best friends Robert Byrd who was a former KKK member. I can go on and on and even make an argument that Trump is even better because atleast he is honest about it, doesnt take actions on his racism, is not corrupted by money and corporations and atleast we can try something new instead of electing the same old bad.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 44 minutes ago, Goosey said: Wants to create negativity? By admitting black people have a harder time in America? Smh. If Bernie said this you'd all be lapping it up. "Trump loves to pretend he CARES about minorities (in this case black people) when he wants to create more negativity around ANOTHER minority group (in this case refugees)." Reading is fundamental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
i medici 1,746 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 is see no lies. He's just saying facts (hope they are true) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Gaga Monster said: The Democrats are the ones that drove the African American inner cities downhill by taxing them more and stealing there money. The Democrats continue to keep the African Americans poor by abandoning the cities, just like what Obama did, he promised so much to the inner cities and abandoned them. The whole government is responsible for the struggle black people face everyday in the US. If you really believe democrats or republicans are the original or main reason why black people struggle in this country you probably need to research more about the history of black people in America. Black people have always been more likely to be poor in America, even before the Democratic Party even existed. Blaming an specific political party for this kind of issues is stupid and ignorant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 13 minutes ago, DrewStevens said: The whole government is responsible for the struggle black people face everyday in the US. If you really believe democrats or republicans are the original or main reason why black people struggle in this country you probably need to research more about the history of black people in America. Black people have always been more likely to be poor in America, even before the Democratic Party even existed. Blaming an specific political party for this kind of issues is stupid and ignorant. Every single poverty inner city is run by Democrats and have been for a very long time. They stole and over taxed. It is a fact. The top 10 poorest cities and the top cities filled with crime and no jobs are all ran by democrats because their economic belief is more taxes and more regulations. I am not ignorant, I am stating the facts. Go look at Detroit, ruined by Democratic policies and they stayed in power and ruined the city. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 2 hours ago, DrewStevens said: "Trump loves to pretend he CARES about minorities (in this case black people) when he wants to create more negativity around ANOTHER minority group (in this case refugees)." Reading is fundamental. Trump is not against refugees. Trump is against: -illegal immigrants -Islamic extremists "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Gaga Monster said: Every single poverty inner city is run by Democrats and have been for a very long time. They stole and over taxed. It is a fact. The top 10 poorest cities and the top cities filled with crime and no jobs are all ran by democrats because their economic belief is more taxes and more regulations. I am not ignorant, I am stating the facts. Go look at Detroit, ruined by Democratic policies and they stayed in power and ruined the city. It's not like red states and cities were Utopias either. Poverty exist in every state and city because the whole government system is flawed. So it's not a fact that poverty was caused by democrats, poverty existed even before the party was a thing. Higher taxation is not synonym of poor economy, a deficient taxation system is. Democrats aren't the only ones who are corrupt. Do you remember who was the Watergate scandal? If I remember right, Nixon was a Republican, not a democrat. And you totally missed the point. We are talking about why black people suffer of poverty and unemployment more than other races in the US, not why poverty in general exists. When was the last time the Republican Party actually focused on black issues instead of focusing solely on the things that affect high/medium class white people? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Goosey said: Trump is not against refugees. Trump is against: -illegal immigrants -Islamic extremists No, he is clearly trying to scare Americans by linking refugees to terrorists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Monster 13,001 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, DrewStevens said: It's not like red states and cities were Utopias either. Poverty exist in every state and city because the whole government system is flawed. So it's not a fact that poverty was caused by democrats, poverty existed even before the party was a thing. Higher taxation is not synonym of poor economy, a deficient taxation system is. Democrats aren't the only ones who are corrupt. Do you remember who was the Watergate scandal? If I remember right, Nixon was a Republican, not a democrat. And you totally missed the point. We are talking about why black people suffer of poverty and unemployment more than other races in the US, not why poverty in general exists. When was the last time the Republican Party actually focused on black issues instead of focusing solely on the things that affect high/medium class white people? First, the republicans aren't the ones keeping the black inner cities poor, it is the corrupt democrats. All these corrupt black cities have been run by democrats for the past 40 years. Next, the real reason why blacks suffer more because back in the day, the whites didn't let the blacks into the suburbs. The black people were kept in the inner cities which rioting and crime happened a lot. A lot of the black people worked hard, got out of the inner cities, and moved to better cities and suburbs, but a lot stayed. Eventually in cities like Detroit, the democrats ruined the hope of the city by robbing citizens, more crime, and the big work force (Car Industry) left the city. Democrats also voted in NAFTA (voted in by Bill Clinton) which destroyed inner cities, millions of jobs left the country to go to countries like China and Mexico. If the black inner cities continue to vote Democrats in, just like the past 50 years of Democrat rule, they will suffer. there is a reason the top 10 poverty cities are run by democrats. GGD Presidential Elections Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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