Lion Heart 15,041 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Mike Pence has never exactly been at the forefront of women's health. Before he was Donald Trump's vice-presidential nominee, he passed a lawin Indiana requiring fetal remains to be cremated or buried, likely at the cost of the patient, whether they were from an abortion or a miscarriage. He's also blocked funds from Planned Parenthood, tried to shut down abortion clinics, and banned private-insurance coverage of abortion ... and he doesn't exactly get how condoms work, either. In other words, he's a blatant opponent of abortion access. So it was unsurprising, if still disheartening, when he promised to repeal Roe v. Wade should he and Trump be elected. According to the Los Angeles Times, he said as much during a campaign stop in Grand Rapids, Michigan. “I’m pro-life and I don’t apologize for it,” he said during a town-hall meeting. “We’ll see Roe vs. Wade consigned to the ash heap of history where it belongs.” http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/07/mike-pence-says-roe-v-wade-will-be-overturned.html ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 This comment: djs04f3 hours ago @jdindc Yep. And since a lot of miscarriages happen in the first month or two which happen to look a lot like normal menstruation... Hoosier women have been calling to check with the governor's office before throwing their tampons or pads into the garbage can... so they don't get arrested later on for failure to hold a funeral for what they assumed was their period but could've contained a fertilized egg, e.g. "baby." Ugh, this guy really is a creep. http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/04/indiana-women-calling-governor-mike-pence-about-their-periods.html ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 And yet people still say they'll waste their vote because they "don't like" Hillary But I suppose its easy for men to not worry about women's issues! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Disgusting Trump Supporters please get to me with how you are rationalizing this away, or just say you believe the same... whether you are actually women or not 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanasNerfGun 4,679 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Overturning that Supreme Court decision would be a literal death sentence and Trump would have blood on his hands. Don't people understand that making abortion illegal will not stop abortions from happening? You're only putting women at risk for the lethal complications that come with home abortions. There are states as it is with only one or two abortion clinics which is already outrageous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,998 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Trump cannot win. If you are eligible to vote, please think about what you are doing before you actually go vote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 17 minutes ago, LanasNerfGun said: Overturning that Supreme Court decision would be a literal death sentence and Trump would have blood on his hands. Don't people understand that making abortion illegal will not stop abortions from happening? You're only putting women at risk for the lethal complications that come with home abortions. There are states as it is with only one or two abortion clinics which is already outrageous. The GOP doesn't care if you throw facts and evidence in its face Some of them will outright deny it to your face or make up some BS to defend it. Its like that Voter ID strike down some days ago... was it in NC? anyway they said it was clearly discriminatory, but if asked about it the GOP would be like *shrug* Reasons to never vote for that party 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Die 1,864 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 35 minutes ago, Lion Heart said: Hoosier women have been calling to check with the governor's office before throwing their tampons or pads into the garbage can... Can we make that a worldwide thing? I'mma get in touch with some of my girlfriends in Mexico and tell them to do this. Nod if you wanna make love with the enemy. ❤ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 6 hours ago, bionic said: And yet people still say they'll waste their vote because they "don't like" Hillary But I suppose its easy for men to not worry about women's issues! 6 hours ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Trump Supporters please get to me with how you are rationalizing this away, or just say you believe the same... 6 hours ago, LanasNerfGun said: Overturning that Supreme Court decision would be a literal death sentence and Trump would have blood on his hands. 5 hours ago, Morphine Prince said: Trump cannot win. 5 hours ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Reasons to never vote for that party And? Hillary wants to overturn District of Columbia v. Heller. Actual Hillary quote: "The Supreme Court is wrong". Don't pretend Christian Republicans are the only ones who disrespect Supreme Court decisions. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,289 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 8 minutes ago, Goosey said: And? Hillary wants to overturn District of Columbia v. Heller. Actual Hillary quote: "The Supreme Court is wrong". Don't pretend Christian Republicans are the only ones who disrespect Supreme Court decisions. But it's not even about overturning a Supreme Court decision?? Progressive movements want the Citizens United Supreme Court decision overturned You seem to be missing the point, the problem people have isn't that he wants to overturn or 'disrespect' a Supreme Court decision. I've seen nobody in this thread whose focus is "I can't believe he disagrees with a Supreme Court Decision!!!" People are upset at WHAT Mike Pence wants to overturn. People are concerned about women and women's rights being taken away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Bebe said: But it's not even about overturning a Supreme Court decision?? Progressive movements want the Citizens United Supreme Court decision overturned You seem to be missing the point, the problem people have isn't that he wants to overturn or 'disrespect' a Supreme Court decision. I've seen nobody in this thread whose focus is "I can't believe he disagrees with a Supreme Court Decision!!!" People are upset at WHAT Mike Pence wants to overturn. People are concerned about women and women's rights being taken away. I'm concerned about all American's rights being taken away. District of Columbia v. Heller was not a corporate law and campaign regulation case, it was a civil rights case. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Get ready for Trump the Dictator Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bebe 17,289 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 44 minutes ago, Goosey said: I'm concerned about all American's rights being taken away. District of Columbia v. Heller was not a corporate law and campaign regulation case, it was a civil rights case. You can go ahead and complain about Hillary's perspective of District of Columbia v. Heller all you want, but you're basically yelling about gun rights in a thread that's about women's reproductive rights. Hillary isn't going to fight to overturn the decision, she said so herself, but it's not really relevant anyhow. Again, nobody in this thread is expressing anger that Mike Pence disagrees with a Supreme Court decision. So when you are replying to people like "BUT HILLARY ALSO DISAGREES WITH THE SUPREME COURT!! DON'T BE HYPOCRITES!!" You miss the point. While everyone in this thread is discussing how they find Mike Pence's position on abortion and women's issues disgusting and backwards, you are defending Pence from non-existent criticism that he shouldn't be disrespecting any supreme court decisions. Nobody here has made that criticism. You are trying make this about whether Pence or Hillary should disrespect Supreme Court decisions because that's the only argument you could feasibly win on considering Hillary has expressed distaste on certain court decisions. Unfortunately for you, nobody is concerned with that - they are not attacking him on that. They are concerned about his opposition to a very particular decision that is vital to the preservation of women's rights, personal freedom, bodily integrity, and privacy. They are concerned with his attacks on women's rights, they are not concerned with any perceived disrespect to the supreme court. Your discussion of Hillary and District of Columbia v. Heller just seem completely off topic. You are just trying to divert conversation away from the backwards and dangerous ideologies of Pence. It seems like either you cannot defend Pence's statements, or you find his position on abortion and women's rights acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Goosey said: I'm concerned about all American's rights being taken away. District of Columbia v. Heller was not a corporate law and campaign regulation case, it was a civil rights case. Hillary Clinton JUST said explicitly in an interview yesterday that she does not want to overturn Heller, believes the individuals right to own guns is in fact a right, and would NOT appoint someone to the court who would do so. Can you stop pretending to care about "American's rights being taken away" now? 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Bebe said: You can go ahead and complain about Hillary's perspective of District of Columbia v. Heller all you want, but you're basically yelling about gun rights in a thread that's about women's reproductive rights. Hillary isn't going to fight to overturn the decision, she said so herself, but it's not really relevant anyhow. Again, nobody in this thread is expressing anger that Mike Pence disagrees with a Supreme Court decision. So when you are replying to people like "BUT HILLARY ALSO DISAGREES WITH THE SUPREME COURT!! DON'T BE HYPOCRITES!!" You miss the point. While everyone in this thread is discussing how they find Mike Pence's position on abortion and women's issues disgusting and backwards, you are defending Pence from non-existent criticism that he shouldn't be disrespecting any supreme court decisions. Nobody here has made that criticism. You are trying make this about whether Pence or Hillary should disrespect Supreme Court decisions because that's the only argument you could feasibly win on considering Hillary has expressed distaste on certain court decisions. Unfortunately for you, nobody is concerned with that - they are not attacking him on that. They are concerned about his opposition to a very particular decision that is vital to the preservation of women's rights, personal freedom, bodily integrity, and privacy. They are concerned with his attacks on women's rights, they are not concerned with any perceived disrespect to the supreme court. Your discussion of Hillary and District of Columbia v. Heller just seem completely off topic. You are just trying to divert conversation away from the backwards and dangerous ideologies of Pence. It seems like either you cannot defend Pence's statements, or you find his position on abortion and women's rights acceptable. Here's my point, boiled down to the basics: On this site, I hear a lot of criticism of Trump/Pence when it comes to civil rights. On this site, I hear little or no criticism of Hillary/Kaine. It seems some people don't value rights they aren't interested in. 43 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said: Hillary Clinton JUST said explicitly in an interview yesterday that she does not want to overturn Heller, believes the individuals right to own guns is in fact a right, and would NOT appoint someone to the court who would do so. "The Supreme Court is wrong on the Second Amendment. And I am going to make that case every chance I get.” -Hillary Clinton So she flip-flopped, like y'all accuse Trump of doing. He JUST said explicitly that he'd "protect our LGBTQ citizens". Yet people still are suspicious of him on gay rights. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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