Lady Gaga Blacklisted by China

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50 minutes ago, DEADLY said:

He was a king in Tibet (1) before peaceful liberation of Tibet (1951/5/23) (2), after the abolition of slavery, many people in Tibet were liberated. Dalai used to be a part of National People's Congress (3) but he transgressed the treaty of peace ("17-Article Agreement ") (4) and escape to India in 1959. He traveling the world and be nice to other countries, but he instigated many rebellions in China (5) and many people were died.

I know communist govt. did some terrible things, but Dalai is worse (6). I just wanna Gaga leave him alone and don't brainwash by him. 

1. He was not yet the ruler; he was still to take his final exams. But yeah, basically.
2. The 'liberation' of Tibet was far from peaceful. After the victory of the PRC during the Chinese Civil War in 1950, the Dalai Lama and his top advisors were aware that Mao Zedong advocated a policy of destruction of indigenous beliefs and cultural practices, and during this period, as the PLA advanced through eastern Tibet towards Lhasa, they tortured monks, forcing them to renounce their religion and assimilate to party policy or lose their lives, destroyed sacred sites and sent thousands of refugees racing towards Lhasa for protection.
3. The Dalai Lama only went to Beijing for one session, which lasted for about ten days. He actually liked Mao Zedong and the idea that communism brought of egalitarianism, but right before he left, Mao Zedong made it clear that "religion was poison", and as a result, his rule would not be seen as legitimate and the Tibetan way of life was to be completely eradicated.
4. The Dalai Lama never personally approved of the 17 Article Agreement. He told his representatives in Beijing to arrange something, but they did so without ever informing him of what they did. When the Dalai Lama actually heard of what his representatives agreed to, he repudiated the agreement. Perhaps not the best idea, but he never actually agreed to anything personally. The Dalai Lama feared that, as the religious figurehead in the region, his presence put his own people, as well as his own life, in danger, and so he fled in the hopes of lessening persecution. Didn't really work; the Great Leap Forward obliterated many Tibetan cultural practices and ways of life. Before 1950, 68 out of the 365 days of the year were festival days. All of these festivals remain banned by the Communist Party of China, although color video footage of them remains. (It's a YT link, so you'll need a VPN to watch.)
5. How? He wasn't in China, he was in India. How could he tell them to do anything when the PRC established their own government in Tibet and redacted the sovereignty the region had reclaimed from the Qing Dynasty just 40-50 years earlier? If you're talking about, say, the 3/14 riots, the violence was a reaction of a people sick and tired of foreigners coming in and telling them what to do, how to act and behave, and what to believe.
6. This is absolutely laughable. Mao Zedong's policies, while great economically and for the life expectancy of most people, clamped down on personal freedoms, banned indigenous cultural practices and since then have regulated whatever else it could in order to keep themselves in power (so they don't lose the Heavenly Mandate or something.) An estimate between 40 and 70 million people were slaughtered, executed, or died of starvation when there wasn't enough food made by the new collective farming initiative to feed the country - he is, more than Hitler or Stalin, the person with the most blood on his hands of any human in world history, and the current government's despotic control over everyday life is an echo of that. The Dalai Lama probably wouldn't be the greatest ruler back in power (he's old and doesn't even want to go back to Tibet), but he's far and away a better person than anyone complicit in the bloodshed of the communist takeover of Tibet.
 

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welp, LG5 wont make it to China 

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2 hours ago, Decodekid said:

welp, LG5 wont make it to China 

LG5 won't make it anywhere at this rate

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16 hours ago, nickwenchester said:

You are not Chinese, you don't know the truth.

is this not what any citizen of a communist country says when people attack the messy ideals of their government    

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They blacklisted ARTPOP? That's the only list ARTPOP made it on .. I'll take it 

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35 minutes ago, Yaxley said:

They blacklisted ARTPOP? That's the only list ARTPOP made it on .. I'll take it 

Actually all her albums have been published in China.Taylor grossed 6 million dollars with her 1989 tour in China,I think gaga could do better.It's a shame she got banned.

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IMHO, this meeting did more harm than good

nobody's paying attention to what she's saying, they focused on who she's with

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9 hours ago, Vernier said:

This would be wrong. China isn't actual a strong force in the music market. Just google "world music market by size" and China doesn't even rank in the top 10, due to piracy killing sales. So, she has nothing to worry about regarding sales.

Now If she's serious about her movie career and wants to star in blockbusters, she might have something to be worried about, but sales wise? Nope, China is negligible.

I might have made a mistake  But yeah, regarding her movies and touring, it could be a problem..

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read some articles about this.
besides her music career, which has already seen her censored in China, it'll possibly affect her film career massively if Gaga dives into the industry; if rumours of a 'A Star Is Born' are true, it would suffer because of the interview.

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16 hours ago, DEADLY said:

He was a king in Tibet before peaceful liberation of Tibet (1951/5/23), after the abolition of slavery, many people in Tibet were liberated. Dalai used to be a part of National People's Congress but he transgressed the treaty of peace ("17-Article Agreement ") and escape to India in 1959. He traveling the world and be nice to other countries, but he instigated many rebellions in China and many people were died.

I know communist govt. did some terrible things, but Dalai is worse. I just wanna Gaga leave him alone and don't brainwash by him. 

Those rebellions were for independence and freedom though, right? I'd say that's a just cause to support. If what others say about those rebellions is true, that people from/in Tibet were killed by the Chinese government, that's a bit like blaming the bullied kid when the bully punches them in the face...And if it was actually Tibetans taking out their anger on innocent Chinese civilians, that's an example of a just fight being fought in an unjust way. If Tibet wants to be free, China's doing nothing but holding them hostage by not letting them go so they're right to fight against that and Chinese citizens should be fighting against their government's constant censorship and control. I mean, black listing Lady Gaga, a pop star that spoke about kindness, is really on their to-do list? That's totally absurd

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Again, I have to point out that I know next to nothing about the entire conflict. I'm basing all of this on comments I hear from both sides of the argument so feel free to correct me

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I really should be looking it up for myself though  I'll get around to it eventually.

 

All of that aside, they didn't speak about politics there, just about kindness. Even if you don't agree with the man's stances as far as that whole issue, you should at least be able to agree with what he and Gaga spoke about, right? 

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On 6/27/2016 at 1:08 AM, nickwenchester said:

You are not Chinese, you don't know the truth.

You're not even allowed to use the internet in your country wtf do you know? 

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good thing its not Brazil  or else  lmao

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Gaga be like:

 

And I really think she doesn't care 

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QUESTION

 

President Obama also met Dalai and had a discussion together. What's China's approach to this? I dont really get it. Do they just fight against artists or smth?

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8 minutes ago, GreekGod said:

QUESTION

 

President Obama also met Dalai and had a discussion together. What's China's approach to this? I dont really get it. Do they just fight against artists or smth?

Chinese are bitches that's why