Coop 15,411 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Pope Francis says gays — and all the other people the church has marginalized, such as the poor and the exploited — deserve an apology. Francis was asked Sunday en route home from Armenia if he agreed with one of his top advisers, German Cardinal Karl Marx, who told a conference in Dublin in the days after the deadly Orlando gay club attack that the church owes an apology to gays for having marginalized them. Francis responded with a variation of his famous "Who am I to judge?" comment and a repetition of church teaching that gays must not be discriminated against but treated with respect. He said some politicized behaviors of the homosexual community can be condemned for being "a bit offensive for others." But he said: "Someone who has this condition, who has good will and is searching for God, who are we to judge?" "We must accompany them," Francis said. "I think the church must not only apologize ... to a gay person it offended, but we must apologize to the poor, to women who have been exploited, to children forced into labor, apologize for having blessed so many weapons" and for having failed to accompany families who faced divorces or experienced other problems. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/pope-gays-marginalized-deserve-apology-40146749 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Trying to win Catholic Gaga back from the Dalai Lama, I see OT: This is great. Pope Francis is very revolutionary and a really good example of loving your neighbors. Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryJaneHolland 77,348 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Just now, A Gaga Lad said: Trying to win Catholic Gaga back from the Dalai Lama, I see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 99,597 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 This is honestly the best Pope ever If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faux 2,190 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 "condition" but at least he's trying to set peace, I like him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 99,597 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, A Gaga Lad said: Trying to win Catholic Gaga back from the Dalai Lama, I see OT: This is great. Pope Francis is very revolutionary and a really good example of loving your neighbors. If Gaga ever has an event with Pope Francis like she did today with Dalai Lama I will legit sit and eat buckets of popcorn watching Christians that dislike her seething If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Blue 8,566 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Oh wow ! well its kinda late for us now , cuz were used to bullshit .. But slay pope Fra i guess .. Better late than eva' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Just now, faux said: "condition" but at least he's trying Sis it's not easy but you can see he really makes the effort. He also reached out to atheists before. I mean many people bash the Catholic Church but really even in topics like evolution, the Catholic Church doesn't actually refute this unlike some sects who interpret the Bible literally. This is a millenia-old organization. Changes don't happen fast but at least like you said, he's trying. Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Red said: If Gaga ever has an event with Pope Francis like she did today with Dalai Lama I will legit sit and eat buckets of popcorn watching Christians that dislike her seething Can you imagine though? Anybody who thinks she's just exploiting certain groups of people would probably die from being so pressed. That would put Gaga in history for sure. Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 So as a Christian, we've been thought that homosexual ACTS are wrong. However, we've been also thought not to judge other ppl because only God can do that. I think this is what the pope is coming. "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 5 minutes ago, Dangerous Man said: So as a Christian, we've been thought that homosexual ACTS are wrong. However, we've been also thought not to judge other ppl because only God can do that. I think this is what the pope is coming. Well speaking for Pope Francis here (I admit the Catholic Church have a number of members/leaders that are ) but what he's basically saying is that do not further ostracize anybody who committed sin. It's like the Mary Magdalene thing--Let whoever has no sin cast the first stone. The Church has its teachings and yes it considers certain acts wrong, that doesn't mean the correct response is to lash out or punish. Instead, continue to love them and guide them, offer help. Of course there will never be a 100% cooperation because of clashing ideologies but what he wants to happen is for Catholics/Christians to be not so quick to judge. Which is a good thing, and these days frankly, even such a small thing as not judging others is already a big kindness. Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Warhola 12,992 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Pandering to a broader demographic, because his album flopped she's a party girl with a bad habit for drugs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Can they offer reparations in the form of actively (as in, not passively) discouraging homophobia and advocating for equal rights for gay people? That's the real question 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Just now, Andrew Warhola said: Pandering to a broader demographic, because his album flopped I doubt the LGBTQ is a broader demographic. I mean that should have given Gaga 117 #1s Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Warhola 12,992 Posted June 26, 2016 Share Posted June 26, 2016 Just now, A Gaga Lad said: I doubt the LGBTQ is a broader demographic. I mean that should have given Gaga 117 #1s Broader demographic as in he's now adding the LGBT community to his target audience. Anyway, it was obviously just a joke I still dislike him, though. she's a party girl with a bad habit for drugs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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