Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 What do people exactly like about this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDi 1,495 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 thank you all for expressing your appreciation for what you deem truly artistic. it's now clearer than ever why you didn't think ARTPOP was. and oh boy, are you far behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTHUNTER 7,611 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 LMAO this is so insane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 36 minutes ago, JDi said: it's now clearer than ever why you didn't think ARTPOP was. Why is that exactly? I'm curious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 1 hour ago, Didymus said: Oh sweet irony. (Edit: Not necessarily in the sense that Gaga's work is derivative art pop etc. etc. but the double standard is just humorous. If you wanted to you could easily slam Gaga's work the same, because the exact same logic applies. Either both Gaga and Kanye are artless derivative wastes of space for the same reasons, or they can both be appreciated for the same reasons, point ****ing blank.) Gaga's art forms a narrative. Kanye's does not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 1 hour ago, ashamednudist said: How is this iconic lmao this is pure crap It's actually less than crap. It's crap that thinks it doesn't stink. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manul 7,377 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 it wasn't laaaahv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Oyster 1,915 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 haha omg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Oyster 1,915 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Slamming the media I see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmenTheNight 1,084 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 I don't really understand the reactions about the video ... Ok, Kanye made a video with naked lookalikes of celebrities and made a reference to a biblical painting. That's artsy and explicit, ok. The only "shocking" thing about it is that he obviously didn't ask for their approval, and he's likely to be sued by Taylor and Trump. Even with all of that combined, I still can't seem to be shocked or amazed. It's not that clever tbh, come on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 29 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said: Gaga's art forms a narrative. Kanye's does not. Clearly you haven't looked into his career fully. So just like a desperate Gaga hater then, only in reverse position, I was right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LePetitGAGABLover 21,234 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 21 minutes ago, AmenTheNight said: I don't really understand the reactions about the video ... Ok, Kanye made a video with naked lookalikes of celebrities and made a reference to a biblical painting. That's artsy and explicit, ok. The only "shocking" thing about it is that he obviously didn't ask for their approval, and he's likely to be sued by Taylor and Trump. Even with all of that combined, I still can't seem to be shocked or amazed. It's not that clever tbh, come on Prople like it cus its new and "innovating." Kayne could literally record himself taking a **** and people would like it becuase no one has done it before. It reminds me of that story of an art gallery showing where a woman dropped her glasses on the floor by accident and people thought it was art. Im not joking, they thought that the glasses on the floor were part of the art show. People just like to pay attention to simple things, thats all. And thats why Gaga lost a lot of fans during the ARTPOP era. Its because her art is too complicated. Kayne just has something shocking, simplifys it, puts a little bit of color, gives a vauge explanation and then calls it art Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Didymus said: Clearly you haven't looked into his career fully. So just like a desperate Gaga hater then, only in reverse position, I was right No I have not looked into his career. Not since 808s and Heartbreak. Can you please explain to me and others the narrative of "Famous"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAstroLeo 14,432 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 This is creepy and tragic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 23 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said: No I have not looked into his career. Not since 808s and Heartbreak. Can you please explain to me and others the narrative of "Famous"? The song title misleads: the song is not about famous people, it's about perfectly ordinary people who are working and trying to get somewhere in their lives. The video fortifies that, since we see famous people in perfectly ordinary positions "performing" a perfectly ordinary act: they're sleeping. When you connect that to the Desiderio painting the video was inspired by (where twelve random people are lying similarly) the implication becomes clear: we can never see these celebrities as normal people. The act of catching them asleep becomes an act of "exposing" them as if their physicality is the key to their essence as a human being. "Catching" them as being normal people is automatically enhanced by an almost p-rnographic dimension: we treat the bodies of celebrities like objects we can lay claim to. They can't be seen as normal people anymore, because they are already enslaved to the ideas we force upon them. We keep missing their essence as persons because we are not communicating with them. We spy on them. And their actual lives are enfolding in their dreams, to which we have no access, because we only want to catch them in the act of being normal, and punish them for it, feel empowered by that punishment. We glorify them as larger than life while simultaneously cursing them for being devoid of it. The idea of a celebrity becomes a category, hence they're all in the same bed. The mystery of the bodies being real or fake just adds to the theme: we want to know if that naked chick is really Taylor Swift as if the body will magically be enhanced with the idea of fame. We are seeing Taylor's boobs, how brilliant. They don't even look that good. I know I have better boobs. The game continues. That's my interpretation. I think it's quite a lovely statement because the visual effect is immediate. We mentally cannot see that collection of people as normal people. They are performing to our fancies even when they're not conscious. We own them and we can paint them as saints (I do think Kanye sought to make a connection with the twelve apostles) or wh-res to our delight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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