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Lord Temptation
1 hour ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

How poetic :sis:

This is what people usually refer to when they say that "Equality can feel like Oppression to those who have always stood to gain from Inequality" -- there have always been more voices in the world, but only recently have we been able to on a massive scale hear and understand those voices and it's shown just how unequal the world is.

The whole "History is written by the winners" mentality is at play here as well. People hear the stories of straight white cis men more than any other for a reason.

Thank you ;)

Definitely social media is a prism that has shed light on aspects of human nature that were previously hidden. It gives us the power to use our words wisely (or carelessly).

So it's not that young people are too sensitive (they've always been sensitive, that's what being young is). Now everyone gets to see it.

Regarding history being written by the winners, I'm not sure I totally agree. I think history was invented by losers to please the winners. So it's not like women want to be men, or gay men want to be straight. We just want their (straight white wealthy man) ability to command an audience and capture our attention.

We want their fame, not necessarily their fortune.

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Rebel Heart
20 minutes ago, Hecturr said:

I agree, it doesn't protect you from people criticizing what you say. What I'm saying is that the mindset that people shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinions to save the feelings of others, isn't any better than them saying it. Because you're limiting free speech. If you say something you're obviously responsible for it and should be able to stand for your opinions. 

As I said I agree with you on that, if you say something you should be able to stand for it. See, you're not ok with that, and it's your opinion. That's my point, you're allowed to voice that opinion, just as much as I'm allowed to get dreads. In regards to getting whatever response you deserve, I guess you're right. Each person make up their own minds ( or should do so at least ) and will voice their opinion of they feel like it. Which I again, am totally fine with. If my feelings get hurt because they say it doesn't look good, oh well life goes on. If they scream in my face that I'm a bigot who appropriates a certain culture, well, I find that a bit extreme, but I'm fine with that too. At the end of the day a stranger's opinion doesn't matter to me.

On one hand I think what I do about my hair is none of anyone's business. On the other hand, people who find it offensive are in the same boat as gay men who are tired of women thinking of them as an accessory and being trendy, or black people who are upset at white people for getting in on the big lips and butt trend after saying that's ugly for so long etc. They're allowed to voice their opinion, I just think people shouldn't care so much what others say and do. Again, I'm talking about people being overly sensitive about things like getting dreads, lip fillers, butt implants etc. Are you allowed to be upset about that and voice your opinion no matter what that migh be? yes. Do I think there are other things you should be more upset about like when your friends make sexist remarks compared to if you see a white man with dreads or a white woman with big lips and a bigg a$$ ? yes.

I completely agree with all of this :diane: but I would just like to add I don't think we can police people on what they can and can't get upset over. I don't think people are overly sensitive with these things (generally, from what I've seen :emma:). I mean if you're a black women with dread locks and fuller lips who has been told she's ugly on a societal level for her lips and that she needs to change her hair for her job or school, then you have every right to be upset when Kylie Jenner is running around with big lips and everyone's going crazy over how amazing they look and how cool Gaga's dread lock wig is. But I get what you're trying to say.

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Sudarshana

the good thing is if you want to offend somebody, you can always do so towards white straight men, it's well known they don't have the right to be offended :hug:

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Ive been saying this forever. U cant make a joke or a roast anymore without someone getting offended and calling it bullying

 

and people jump to conclusions too. If an openly gay man and heterosexual man apply for a job and you pick the heterosexual, many would accuse you of being homophobic and not even consider there might have been other factors why u werent chosen :saladga: 

 

ppl do need to chill

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Kayla
2 hours ago, Leo said:

This is bull. Bull on bull on bull.

The thing is, people like to exaggerate the idea of people being "too sensitive". People joke and laugh at the idea of non-binary people, mock the concept of privilege and make such a big deal about the fact that people can be offended when you say ignorant bullsh!t. 

The video is nonsense, whatever, it's tongue in cheek, but people like to say "Gosh, these kids nowadays, everything offends them!", when in reality, most people are pretty laid back, but don't be surprised when someone calls someone else out for saying something out of line.

People talk about "how offended!11!!!" everyone is nowadays but apparently forgot the time that people were rallying and burning Harry Potter books for being Satanic, or the time people formed groups to smash Dixie Chicks CDs after the band dissed George Bush, the fact that for years people were so offended by homosexuality that they were denied rights (oh wait, that still happens), let's not forget the people who view saying "Happy Holidays" as a direct attack on their friggin' life, etc. etc. 

Like I have a cousin who bitches incessantly about how "OFFENDED" everyone is, but then this bitch boycotts Oreos because they did a rainbow cookie thing for the LGBT community. She's over here annoyed that people are "so OFFENDED" by how gay people are treated, but then she goes and gets her panties in a bunch over some rainbow-colored ****ing cookies

At least more people nowadays are getting offended by actual injustice instead of whining that there's a "War on Christmas!" just because Channel 7 chose to play Rudolph during the holidays. 

It's such a shame that so many people in society are so busy worrying about themselves and their minor annoyances that they apparently literally can't handle it when a lifestyle they've never given two thoughts to finally has a medium to voice how they've felt or been treated for decades. :wtf: 

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Kayla
2 hours ago, Rebel Heart said:

You'll show a right wing person evidence of racism being institutionalized in the USA or that rape culture is real and you can show them science about gender and sexual orientation and they'll literally shut you down with no evidence of their own and cry about how you're just an angry feminazi who hates all men and wants every white person dead.

EXACTLY. That cousin I referenced in my above post also had this phase where she was like "I don't need feminism because I'm not a victim and I'm not going to force myself to be a victim. Feminists are just whiners who don't want to work hard for their success." 

Then a few months later she's talking about how two of the men at her job are harassing her with vulgar language and one even touched her inappropriately, but she's nervous to report it because she's afraid she'll lose her job. 

And I'm just like....HUH. You mean you experienced rape culture?!

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It's like they only care about those issues when it directly effects them, but when it's affecting other people they either think it's totally false or the other people are bringing it on themselves. Prior to her incident she thought people upset about being catcalled with vulgar language were "too sensitive" and people referencing rape statistics were making a mountain out of a molehill, and now all of a sudden she isn't complaining about that anymore...hm...

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ItsTommyBitch
2 hours ago, MJHolland said:

*gets butt hurt and obviously offended defending the younger generation for being called too sensitive*

Oh the irony is sweet this morning on Gaga Daily. 

Yes. Young people are WAY too sensitive. 

Young people tend to be progressive because they see the errors of their elders and want to change things, The older generations have ALWAYS found the younger ones to be too sensitive, too crazy, too whatever because they challenge everything that they lived with, which feels like a personal attack even if it isn't. All change can seem "radical" at times, and sometimes it is radical, but this modern phenomenon is just time repeating itself. The people you call "SJWs" might in the future find the next progressive movement too radical too and then we'll be back here again :laughga:

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MJHolland
39 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

Young people tend to be progressive because they see the errors of their elders and want to change things, The older generations have ALWAYS found the younger ones to be too sensitive, too crazy, too whatever because they challenge everything that they lived with, which feels like a personal attack even if it isn't. All change can seem "radical" at times, and sometimes it is radical, but this modern phenomenon is just time repeating itself. The people you call "SJWs" might in the future find the next progressive movement too radical too and then we'll be back here again :laughga:

Never before have so many people whined about absolutely minuscule and harmless things such as "cultural appropriation". This younger generation is definitely the most sensitive. Baby Boomers never even heard of participation ribbons. This generation was coddled from the start.

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2 hours ago, Kayla said:

People talk about "how offended!11!!!" everyone is nowadays but apparently forgot the time that people were rallying and burning Harry Potter books for being Satanic, or the time people formed groups to smash Dixie Chicks CDs after the band dissed George Bush, the fact that for years people were so offended by homosexuality that they were denied rights (oh wait, that still happens), let's not forget the people who view saying "Happy Holidays" as a direct attack on their friggin' life, etc. etc. 

Like I have a cousin who bitches incessantly about how "OFFENDED" everyone is, but then this bitch boycotts Oreos because they did a rainbow cookie thing for the LGBT community. She's over here annoyed that people are "so OFFENDED" by how gay people are treated, but then she goes and gets her panties in a bunch over some rainbow-colored ****ing cookies

At least more people nowadays are getting offended by actual injustice instead of whining that there's a "War on Christmas!" just because Channel 7 chose to play Rudolph during the holidays. 

It's such a shame that so many people in society are so busy worrying about themselves and their minor annoyances that they apparently literally can't handle it when a lifestyle they've never given two thoughts to finally has a medium to voice how they've felt or been treated for decades. :wtf: 

I think you have a point but its a different branch of sensitivity...

 

What your talking about has more to do with close mindedness. People were taught a specific way to live and anything that isnt so was imoral. People by religion believed God would punish them for this or that and also judged others that didnt follow the standard

 

I think what the OP is talking about (and i agree) is that today you cant make a joke without offending someone. Everything is taken the worst way possible...

 

Everything is blown out of proportion...

 

An officer chief here in Toronto recently lost his job. Why? A poor choice of 1 word on a speech

 

He was talking about the issue of rape and how people can minimize chances of being a victim. Then he also said "Also its not wise to walk the streets dressed like sluts because it catches undue attention"

 

He was called on it and apologized, he rephrased and said he just meant to say that if you dress too revealing it doesnt help situation and was sorry for the way it came out

 

didnt matter, people protested city hall and made a huge deal and he ended up getting fired.

 

Ppl just cant let things go anymore. If someone says something i dont like, i usually just let it go unless its really major. 80% of the time hurtful speech wasnt intended and they may not even be aware they hurt u. But people have to cruxify and complain about everything and anything :saladga: 

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Kayla
1 hour ago, Economy said:

I think you have a point but its a different branch of sensitivity...

 

What your talking about has more to do with close mindedness. People were taught a specific way to live and anything that isnt so was imoral. People by religion believed God would punish them for this or that and also judged others that didnt follow the standard

 

I think what the OP is talking about (and i agree) is that today you cant make a joke without offending someone. Everything is taken the worst way possible...

 

Everything is blown out of proportion...

 

An officer chief here in Toronto recently lost his job. Why? A poor choice of 1 word on a speech

 

He was talking about the issue of rape and how people can minimize chances of being a victim. Then he also said "Also its not wise to walk the streets dressed like sluts because it catches undue attention"

 

He was called on it and apologized, he rephrased and said he just meant to say that if you dress too revealing it doesnt help situation and was sorry for the way it came out

 

didnt matter, people protested city hall and made a huge deal and he ended up getting fired.

 

Ppl just cant let things go anymore. If someone says something i dont like, i usually just let it go unless its really major. 80% of the time hurtful speech wasnt intended and they may not even be aware they hurt u. But people have to cruxify and complain about everything and anything :saladga: 

The problem is these "jokes" have lasting effects. In the case of a transgender person, for example, almost every representation of someone like them either in life or in the media is as a joke or something "weird." It makes it hard for potential transgender people to feel safe and comfortable coming out when the media and their peers paint transgenders to be some kind of weird freak. This leads to an inability to accept yourself when who you are is viewed so negatively or with disgust, and that rejection of the self causes mental suffering. No wonder so many trans individuals attempt or commit suicide. :wtf: 

And you see it as "one word cost him his job," I see it is one harmful mentality. His sentence blamed women for being assaulted, and he labeled women who may dress revealing as "sluts," which is a huge part of rape culture that we are battling. I'm not a "slut" when I walk down the street in a modest summer dress, but apparently I should be partially to blame for the "undue attention" I caught last summer when a guy literally did a U-turn in an intersection to yell "DAAAAAMMNN!" while driving past me again. :awkney:

I don't think he should have been fired over that, but I do think the people protesting were doing so with good reason- mentalities like that man's are part of the reason why women struggle with issues related to rape culture. And referring to those women as "sluts" says a LOT about how he really feels

Imagine if some new pop star said something like "I play at gay clubs because those fags just love buying my tickets," and then later said, "Oh, I phrase that wrong! I'm SO sorry. What I mean is the gay community is so supportive of my work, so I am happy to perform for them." It's problematic.

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45 minutes ago, Kayla said:

The problem is these "jokes" have lasting effects. In the case of a transgender person, for example, almost every representation of someone like them either in life or in the media is as a joke or something "weird." It makes it hard for potential transgender people to feel safe and comfortable coming out when the media and their peers paint transgenders to be some kind of weird freak. This leads to an inability to accept yourself when who you are is viewed so negatively or with disgust, and that rejection of the self causes mental suffering. No wonder so many trans individuals attempt or commit suicide. :wtf: 

And you see it as "one word cost him his job," I see it is one harmful mentality. His sentence blamed women for being assaulted, and he labeled women who may dress revealing as "sluts," which is a huge part of rape culture that we are battling. I'm not a "slut" when I walk down the street in a modest summer dress, but apparently I should be partially to blame for the "undue attention" I caught last summer when a guy literally did a U-turn in an intersection to yell "DAAAAAMMNN!" while driving past me again. :awkney:

I don't think he should have been fired over that, but I do think the people protesting were doing so with good reason- mentalities like that man's are part of the reason why women struggle with issues related to rape culture. And referring to those women as "sluts" says a LOT about how he really feels

Imagine if some new pop star said something like "I play at gay clubs because those fags just love buying my tickets," and then later said, "Oh, I phrase that wrong! I'm SO sorry. What I mean is the gay community is so supportive of my work, so I am happy to perform for them." It's problematic.

I do agree with everything u said mostly. But i still think most people blow things out of proportion

 

if ppl make a gay joke, i just laugh it off instead of getting offended. Only if i could tell the person was trying to be cruel then thats a different story

 

Also i make a habit of not assuming if im ever left out of something or whatnot that it doesnt necessairily have anything to do with my sexuality and there could be other reasons

 

I dont know that my view

 

I do understand sensitivity of p who are super targeted, luke teansgendered that u mentioned. But i think most people in most cases still exagerate

 

I think society would be better off if we just let certain things go. Thats my motto, if it aint a huge deal, i just let it go :) 

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TiphEret

I am not sure that video really expressed well what you (OP) meant. To me it seemed made by someone that is so used to be part of the majority that it's just easier to dismiss whatever complains people have as them being "sensitive". 

Now in one of your posts you went more in depth. I think you will always find sensitive people everywhere, that just jump on anything to get mad, maybe with social media they have even more space to do so.

In my uni you have tons of activists and people you guys would consider SJW, I hang around those crowds a lot and only one of them gave me a massive headache by just arguing about everything and seeing things where there wasn't. Just one girl and she was clearly emotional in her reaction to everything you would talk about (and I talked about dreads with her, boy that was funny!). The thing is, she was loud so I could understand why such people make others that worry about the same issue be "too sensitive". But so far most people I have met concerned by social changes, racism, sexism, feminism aren't butthurt or too sensitive, they usually have real life example that are more than a few microagression... 

So at the end I think you can find such stubborness everywhere but maybe you'll notice it quicker... in people you disagree with 

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Redstreak

You mean like hypersensitive cultures that allowed fear, emotion, and right wing propaganda, usually proliferated through social media, to enact an unprecedented shake up in our globe's recent history? I agree.

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Lord Temptation

My Baby Boomer parents raised me well. A little too well. To the point where I will always call them out on their hypocrisy.

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