Gaga was actually ahead with her Hillary post

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5 minutes ago, monstereo said:

 

 

Not a ****ing presidential candidate she has a ladyboner for.

 

[Quark 7,098]

1 minute ago, Domino said:

....... I'm sorry, I just can't defend her this time. 

Well, you have your opinion but I just don't think she did anything wrong

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

Y'all know how much I love Hillary and Gaga but the timing of that tweet was inappropriate despite its best intentions.

I actually think it's the opposite of premeditated. The way I think it mostly want down was that she was frustrated and angry about yet another mass shooting thanks to lax gun control. Add LGBT victims to the mix and Gaga must have been furious.

Because she was so angry, she wasn't content to just say mindless platitudes. She wants this to stop and Hillary is the only candidate with tough gun control on her agenda.

The problem here is that although the intention is meaningful and practical, it is skipping over the respect that the victims deserve as well as glossing over the fact that this was about LGBT hatred as well

This tweet would be far more appropriate tomorrow and onwards.

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1 minute ago, Enigma said:

Well, you have your opinion but I just don't think she did anything wrong

No to mention she retweeted it with what a ****  star said... Literally this is her defense to re tweet what a **** star said and then supporting Hillary and the here come the gun laws jargon. Mess! Total mess 

[Bebe 17,094]

Just now, Enigma said:

No it wasn't. You need to start plans early to prevent disasters.

That's not the issue though, nobody would feel upset if later down the track she made a post like the first post she made.

What upset people, understandably, is that the very first thing she tweeted was about voting for Hillary and it wasn't really appropriate to do that... The general election is still a while off, she has a lot of time to say something about how Hillary's position on gun control could help prevent such tragedies. It didn't need to be the first thing she said about it.

It would have been more tactful to just pay respects to the victims and their families, express a desire to support them, provide links to places you can donate and stuff like that. If she wants to promote Hillary she is going to have plenty of time to do that in the upcoming months. If she wants to promote Hillary's gun control measures and bring up the Orlando tragedy as a place where smarter gun control could have prevented the massacre then she can do that in the coming months.

Starting your response to the attack with #VoteHilary just wasn't a smart thing to do.

I don't think she is a terrible person, I don't think she meant poorly, I'm glad she deleted it. She made a bad judgment call and we are all prone to doing that - but I think it's okay to admit that it was a bad judgment call.

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

Anyone offended by Gaga's tweet is merely trying to make the issue about them.

[Nicole 1,809]

It was just a bit messy because she tweeted that first before the one about the victims. It was a mistake, and honestly the first thing I thought of was gun laws as well. US gun laws make me angry, and they clearly make her angry as well. I impulse tweet all the time and I'm sure many others do as well, but we don't have 60 million people there to rip us to shreds

I agree that directly campaigning for Hillary would have been more appropriate later, perhaps the next day and even in the coming months as the election gets closer, but she clearly realised and thus deleted it. 

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3 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

about yet another mass shooting thanks to lax gun control.

The shooter was a security guard for a local court house, and his job also gave him availability to purchase guns.

This issue is about more than gun control. This man had mental health issues.

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

15 minutes ago, monstereo said:

What she said was very stupid an inconsiderate.

Not really. Thinking about solutions, in this case stricter gun control, is trying to prevent something like this happening. Instead everyone seems to focus on how offended they are with Gaga's words. They're trying to make it all about them and how hurt they are, instead of the victims.

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1 minute ago, Bebe said:

That's not the issue though, nobody would feel upset if later down the track she made a post like the first post she made.

What upset people, understandably, is that the very first thing she tweeted was about voting for Hillary and it wasn't really appropriate to do that... The general election is still a while off, she has a lot of time to say something about how Hillary's position on gun control could help prevent such tragedies. It didn't need to be the first thing she said about it.

It would have been more tactful to just pay respects to the victims and their families, express a desire to support them, provide links to places you can donate and stuff like that. If she wants to promote Hillary she is going to have plenty of time to do that in the upcoming months. If she wants to promote Hillary's gun control measures and bring up the Orlando tragedy as a place where smarter gun control could have prevented the massacre then she can do that in the coming months.

Starting your response to the attack with #VoteHilary just wasn't a smart thing to do.

I don't think she is a terrible person, I don't think she meant poorly, I'm glad she deleted it. She made a bad judgment call and we are all prone to doing that - but I think it's okay to admit that it was a bad judgment call.

You are right, but like one member here said, Gaga was probably was angry of this whole situation and she felt like she wanted to do something about it. And the only thing she could do at the moment to stop this kinds of acts was to say what she said. Anyone that knows Gaga knows that she actually cares about people. Her timing was just off but she literary said nothing wrong and people here just overreacted.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

1 minute ago, FATCAT said:

The shooter was a security guard for a local court house, and his job also gave him availability to purchase guns.

This issue is about more than gun control. This man had mental health issues.

Yea.... people with mental health issues need to be assessed to potentially having their privileged revoked. 

That's a part of gun control.

[JbGaga 2,261]

The delusion here is so real... Realer then anything I know to be real

That or some of you really need to be in the media because you can spin anything

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Just now, LebaneseDude said:

Yea.... people with mental health issues need to be assessed to potentially having their privileged revoked. 

That's a part of gun control.

Yes, but only after we solve our issues with mental health. If people aren't diagnosed in the first place, your law does nothing. It's a formula, step by step. 

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2 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

Yes, but only after we solve our issues with mental health. If people aren't diagnosed in the first place, your law does nothing. It's a formula, step by step. 

There are always going to be problems of this kind though. People like this will always exist and will always try to find a way to harm. So we should always have good laws at any given time. We can't afford to wait until everyone is healed.

[Bebe 17,094]

Just now, Enigma said:

You are right, but like one member here said, Gaga was probably was angry of this whole situation and she felt like she wanted to do something about it. And the only thing she could do at the moment to stop this kinds of acts was to say what she said. Anyone that knows Gaga knows that she actually cares about people. Her timing was just off but she literary said nothing wrong and people here just overreacted.

I think it seems like an overreaction because 20+ people entered the thread, saw the tweet and immediately thought "Wtf Gaga? Really? That is not the right response " leading to a whole bunch of negative replies, which snowballed, but I don't think the initial disappointment in her was unjustified.

I agree, I think Gaga was probably angry and upset about the whole situation and she thought "This needs to stop and I believe Hillary has the best gun control measures that could stop this!"

But I can understand the disappointment people felt when Gaga made that initial tweet. The last thing you want to hear when a tragedy like this happens is "This is why my candidate is the best! They are working to avoid this! Vote for them!"

I don't think Gaga's intentions where ever bad, but I do think that what she said was wrong in the context of the time she said it. Her timing was off, it came across as inconsiderate, she shouldn't have said it. Like I said, we are all prone to bad judgment calls and I think this one was just a bad judgment call on her part which she quickly realised and fixed.

Her later responses were lovely and I have no issue with her bringing up Hillary's position on gun control later down the track. It just wasn't the right time at all.