lego 44,165 Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 1 minute ago, faysalaaa1 said: I disagree with what MJHolland said about islam but I have no problem with it.. he believes islam is a violent religion that drives those people into doing these terrorist crimes, while I disagree with that for many different reasons, I dont take offense to any of what he said as he is criticizing a religion and an ideology. You cant be self hating white as it is very popular and accepted today to hate any white male and all this hate is coming from white people themselves specially progressive liberals. So you got no problem with his posts, but my sarcasm was called out for racism? lol You can be self-hating muslim too, self-hating arab, self-hating Jew... they say it's a thing. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,655 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, Lion Heart said: We have to be smart. We have to be tough. We have to be vigilant I ****ing chuckled so loud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Oyster 1,939 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 1 hour ago, ctherainbow said: Is it just me, or do most mass shooters just... look like mass shooters? I hate to profile anybody based on their looks, but most mass shooters seem to just look dead in the eyes. Agreed. But remember that the media likes drama and will use images that relate to their news. Using a pic of a smiling dude would be... rather too controversial :P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 16 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said: So you got no problem with his posts, but my sarcasm was called out for racism? lol You can be self-hating muslim too, self-hating arab, self-hating Jew... they say it's a thing. I did not know you were being sarcastic and thats why I apologized so no I did not criticize you for being sarcastic.. I disagree with him and think what he said is not true or misinformed but I have no problem with what he said because like I said before, he is criticizing an ideology. Yes I can be self hating muslim and arab but I am a nationalist and a real muslim pround of my religion and love it and thats why I support other people who have the same feeling towards their culture and religion.. I dont show any sign of self hating muslim/arab unless you think me not being bias is a sign of self hating! I dont know how I can be a self hating jew though.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 10 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said: I dont know how I can be a self hating jew though.. I didn't mean you, I was talking in general, it was example. "You" doesn't always mean you specifically.. I can be critical of people from my own race without being labeled as "self-hating white". That's how many fanatic Zionists call every Jewish person critical of Israeli state - "a self-hating Jew". But I was sarcastic and he was serious and you criticized me for thinking I was serious about it. So idk how what he said can be justified. But whatever. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 He's good looking enough to be the poster boy for self-hate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said: was sarcastic and he was serious and you criticized me for thinking I was serious about it. So idk how what he said that be justified. But whatever. Because you criticized a race or atleast thought you criticized a race.. he did not do that, he criticized a ideology. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said: Because you criticized a race or atleast thought you criticized a race.. he did not do that, he criticized a ideology. He was criticizing whole religion and with that justified his stance on ban of all muslims (yeah I know you support it too, but it's irrelevant) and implementation of that is racist because in America even some Latinos and Sikhs are often mistaken for being Muslims, which means being Muslim is associated with their dark skin/looking Middle-Eastern. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 29 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said: He was criticizing whole religion and with that justified his stance on ban of all muslims (yeah I know you support it too, but it's irrelevant) and implementation of that is racist because in America even some Latinos and Sikhs are often mistaken for being Muslims, which means being Muslim is associated with their dark skin/looking Middle-Eastern. He was saying that islam is the reason for these terrorists actions and we need to ban muslims from entering the US to prevent these extremist minority from entering and ruining western values and culture until they are not a threat to American citizens.. the ban is based on culture witch is something that can be changed and not based on a person race witch is something that cant be changed and thats why criticizing a culture, religion or ideology is healthy and its not racist. While I do not agree that islam or muslims supports any of this, I cant deny that we muslims do have a problem even though this problem is done by less than 1% of muslims, the effect is very threatening to the west and to us muslims. I dont care about opinions that feels good, I care about actually protecting people weather its the west or us Arabs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said: He was saying that islam is the reason for these terrorists actions and we need to ban muslims from entering the US to prevent these extremist minority from entering and ruining western values and culture until they are not a threat to American citizens.. the ban is based on culture witch is something that can be changed and not based on a person race witch is something that cant be changed and thats why criticizing a culture, religion or ideology is healthy and its not racist. While I do not agree that islam or muslims supports any of this, I cant deny that we muslims do have a problem even though this problem is done by less than 1% of muslims, the effect is very threatening to the west and to us muslims. So for the ban, how would you make sure someone was Muslim? That's my main question. The reason I'm so against the ban is that it invokes racism. America likes to say label people of a certain decent as Muslims. Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said: So for the ban, how would you make sure someone was Muslim? That's my main question. The reason I'm so against the ban is that it invokes racism. America likes to say label people of a certain decent as Muslims. Just ban entrance from islamic countries that have terrorist groups like Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and some African muslim countries until the crisis ends.. you wont know if the person is a muslim or not and many christians will not be able to enter the US too. You not supporting the ban is absolutely fine but saying that the ban or trump is racist because he supports this ban is wrong in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUO YI 6,089 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I'm laughing hard at some members saying religion is the problem and they say the gay should die or kill the blacks. Not everyone in religion is bad. There are a lot of good religious people, the people that really believe in God. The possible real problems are the men and women with mental problems, and hate. Hope this guy gets what he deserves. The night sky tells all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderLevi2 5,849 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 19 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said: Just ban entrance from islamic countries that have terrorist groups like Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and some African muslim countries until the crisis ends.. you wont know if the person is a muslim or not and many christians will not be able to enter the US too. You not supporting the ban is absolutely fine but saying that the ban or trump is racist because he supports this ban is wrong in my opinion. I never said trump is a racist (although I do believe he is ignorant from a lot of his comments) but I'm saying the ban will cause racism. People associate Muslims as non-white. Don't tell me there isn't a stereotype surrounding Islam. Even in the middle-of-nowhere South Dakota, I've heard people call others "Muslim terrorists" based on their skin color... The funny thing is that the people they were calling "Muslim terrorists" were actually Christians. Currently listening to Joanne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 24 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said: I never said trump is a racist (although I do believe he is ignorant from a lot of his comments) but I'm saying the ban will cause racism. People associate Muslims as non-white. Don't tell me there isn't a stereotype surrounding Islam. Even in the middle-of-nowhere South Dakota, I've heard people call others "Muslim terrorists" based on their skin color... The funny thing is that the people they were calling "Muslim terrorists" were actually Christians. The ban wont change anything, it will just make people entering the country more strict.. muslims and mosques will still be around everywhere.. I dont see the problem of this ban but I do understand what you are saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Please ban crazy het's #MakeAmericaGayAgain Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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