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Kinda surprised by how quiet celebs have been about this tragedy. It is the biggest mass shooting in this country's history yet there's far less outcry than usual because the community was a target. But, ya know, what's the excuse of LGBT+ friendly folk in Hollywood? Disappointing. If you can tweet about urging people to vote the other day or posting selfies on Instagram (especially today) then you can show your support on social media too. What a disconnect. It really does make me raise my eyebrow at particular people.

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Morphine Prince

On CNN one of the Florida Senators was saying it is believed the shooter pledged allegience to ISIS.

Not official though. We need to wait for more details. 

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NathanC
Just now, Himeros26 said:

You need to have several seats and educate yourselllllf

Educate YOURSELF, what does Islam say about homosexuals? Which I assume you are one... Take a seat and let's not pretend Islam is a religion of "peace"...

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christinahoney
1 hour ago, Hecturr said:

and that justifies this? :wtf: get off this site please

Please, did I say that? lol no. Learn to read please. What happened is horrible.

My point is the Gay Pride* is hurting the community more than it is doing anything good. the post I quoted is not true.

*Gay Pride as in THIS:

gay%2Bpride%2BChicago02.jpg

Not as in "proud to be openly gay and standing together" - Gay Pride.

Imagine a homophobic or insecure person doesn't know any gay guys and has only seen that ^

Good effect? I don't think so.

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PunkTheFunk
2 minutes ago, NathanC said:

Islam isn't a race... It's a horrifying and destructive ideology... Until people admit that, Islam can't reform... And stuff like this will continue to happen...

Please educate yourself

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AJH219
Just now, christinahoney said:

Please, did I say that? lol no. Learn to read please.

My point is the Gay Pride is hurting the community more than it is doing anything good. the post I quoted is not true.

You're a vile SWINE! 50 LGBT people were massacred last night and all you care about is how pride events (aka showcasing how much we love ourselves) are the reason for this?? Fck outta here with this bullshit. People are DEAD this is not the place to push your anti-pride agenda :wtf:

 

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Himeros26
1 minute ago, NathanC said:

Educate YOURSELF, what does Islam say about homosexuals? Which I assume you are one... Take a seat and let's not pretend Islam is a religion of "peace"...

See look you still need to have seats because I don't follow any organized Religion. Did you assume I'm Islam because of my face in my pic, because I'm Hispanic and White, not Middle Eastern.

Islamic people ARE NOT JIHADISTS. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. And also, this was a DOMESTIC TERROR. NOT and an Islamic Extremist. Please, at least read up on what's happening if you're going to make ignorant, bigoted comments!

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Morphine Prince

You know even if this is not a case of religious extremism.... you must ask yourself. If this is just a hate crime, where did the hate come from? 

Could it be insipired by the guy being closeted? 

Perhaps religions plagued by rhetoric from their followers against the LGBT community? 

Start connecting the dots people. 

 

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Harry
3 minutes ago, christinahoney said:

Please, did I say that? lol no. Learn to read please. What happened is horrible.

My point is the Gay Pride* is hurting the community more than it is doing anything good. the post I quoted is not true.

*Gay Pride as in THIS:

gay%2Bpride%2BChicago02.jpg

Not as in "proud to be openly gay and standing together" - Gay Pride.

Imagine a homophobic or insecure person doesn't know any gay guys and has only seen that ^

Good effect? I don't think so.

Oh please I see straight people dancing like that and doing FAR worse on ordinary club nights. There is no excuse.

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ryanripley
4 minutes ago, NathanC said:

Islam isn't a race... It's a horrifying and destructive ideology... Until people admit that, Islam can't reform... And stuff like this will continue to happen...

3 minutes ago, Himeros26 said:

You need to have several seats and educate yourselllllf

a little bit of education for both of you :laughga:

islam isn't pure terror and oppression but at the same time, it isn't pure peace

if you wish to know where islam stands with homosexuality since it's related to the incident, i suggest reading this:

http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/homosexuality.htm

https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ
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DemeLarell
8 hours ago, edgy said:

Whenever people use the "guns don't shoot people, people shoot people" excuse, I roll my eyes and point to incidents like this and I'm like, well clearly we need to make it harder for people to get guns then because of bull**** like this.

Unless we ban guns all together (which would never happen) stuff like this will keep happening. Even if it was illegal to have guns or hard to obtain one these ****ed up individuals will still find a way to get one. Ugh. It's so sad.

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DrewStevens
1 minute ago, MJHolland said:

I'm so done with pretending that Islam doesn't make people violent. Why is Islam the only religion that inspirers hate and terrorism in this way? I'm so angry, I'm so upset, and I'm so done with pretending Islam doesn't have a problem, and I'm so done with people like @himeros26 saying I'm a ****ing for pointing out the OBVIOUS. If you want to be willfully ignorant and pretend like you don't already know what motivated this crime, be my guest. But do not try to tell me I'm a racist for seeing the obvious. PC culture is the reason why we can't address the problem in the Muslim community. 

This isn't about being space, it's about being fair. Islam has motivated more killing lately because it comes from a less developed zone of the world.

Religion makes people violent and that includes Islam, but it doesn't exclude other religions like Christianism which has and is still causing deaths and pain around the world. Maybe not the same amount but it's still motivating violence.

What motivated this crime was his hate towards gay people which is common amongst all religious people not only Muslims. This is not the first or the last hate crime towards the LGBT caused by religion.

As long as a religion condemns different groups of people there is going to be a problem with religion. Yes, there's a problem amongst Islam but blaming the whole Islam for these hate crimes is irresponsible and ignorant just like blaming the whole Republican Party for racism in the US or blaming Christianism for sexism in America. 

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ryanripley
6 minutes ago, christinahoney said:

Please, did I say that? lol no. Learn to read please. What happened is horrible.

My point is the Gay Pride* is hurting the community more than it is doing anything good. the post I quoted is not true.

*Gay Pride as in THIS:

gay%2Bpride%2BChicago02.jpg

Not as in "proud to be openly gay and standing together" - Gay Pride.

Imagine a homophobic or insecure person doesn't know any gay guys and has only seen that ^

Good effect? I don't think so.

if this was on another thread i'd fully agree with you but this is bad timing :laughga: 

https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ
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lego
Just now, MJHolland said:

Some people have a grip on the world. My comments weren't warnable. This is the world we live in and we need to be able to address the Islam has a major problem that no other world religion does. 

 

Yes they were. You were rude to other member for no reason and your islamophobia is welcomed here because Admin agrees with you.

Prejudice against any other minority would not be tolerated. 

You weren't "done with Christianity" after Breivik or Planned Parenthood or any other mass shooting. You weren't "done with Judaism" after the gay man was almost beaten to death in Haredi neighbourhood NYC or after massacre in Gaza.

It's enough for a criminal to have muslim name so all you islamophobes can come out and blame the whole religion and with that put all muslims under suspicion and blame. 

 

 

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PartySick
1 hour ago, YourSweet666 said:

@PartySick  spread this 

 

 

 

I will, thanks. My aunt is going in sometime today as part of their crisis team or something and I may ask to go with her and lend a hand if it's allowed.

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