Dashcam footage of cop tasing, dragging, and dropping teen is unsealed

[venusfly 17,885]

31 minutes ago, RubberHeartt said:

 

There's a thing called rights. A person has a choice to refuse if they believe the cop has no reason to be stopping them. Cmon didy! I love your posts, but really? 

look at it from any cops point of view when someone refuses to cooperate, it's an obvious sign of guilt towards whatever the situation is... it's not that hard to cooperate and avoid getting into more trouble for resisting arrest

I do not at all support this cop's actions though

[ItsTommyBitch 12,640]

A mess. The false report to me is enough to think that 4 years alone is not enough.

I get that he was being rude and "belligerent" or w.e by not rolling his window down all the way, but is he even required to do so? I didn't think that was a thing. 

For that matter, he didn't tell the kid what he did or why he was being pulled over, so the kid was right to be at least a little on edge. I certainly would've been recording as well.
The police officer should've settled for having the window partially rolled down if he could still talk to and hear the kid. Police officers are equally as responsible as the person being pulled over to avoid escalating a situation at all times if there's no reason to suspect that the person is violent. A kid is being rude? You don't have to yank them out of their car tase them and DROP their body to assort your authority. 

[JevyDuty 2,961]

15 minutes ago, Didymus said:

This all could've been prevented if he just ****ing rolled the window down like the cop told him to

This could have been prevented if we hired cops that actually respect the law and a person's life. Like you had stated, the punishment doesn't fit the crime. 

It's almost the same thing as saying that a woman would have not been raped if she had not dressed so seductively. 

[Kulture Kiari 3,433]

Just now, LG said:

look at it from any cops point of view when someone refuses to cooperate, it's an obvious sign of guilt towards whatever the situation is... it's not that hard to cooperate and avoid getting into more trouble for resisting arrest

Yes, you are right on that, but him being an EXPERIENCED cop should have known how to deal with that situation.

A: It was a teenager.

B. Experience: It was a regular stop. No reason to have used extreme force. 

[AlexanderLevi2 5,849]

1 minute ago, LG said:

look at it from any cops point of view when someone refuses to cooperate, it's an obvious sign of guilt towards whatever the situation is... it's not that hard to cooperate and avoid getting into more trouble for resisting arrest

Nope. The justice system is INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY. And that's how cops need to work. No one has to cooperate just because a cop stops you and tells you to do something.

[ItsTommyBitch 12,640]

4 minutes ago, LG said:

look at it from any cops point of view when someone refuses to cooperate, it's an obvious sign of guilt towards whatever the situation is... it's not that hard to cooperate and avoid getting into more trouble for resisting arrest

I don't think so at all.

Some people are afraid of police officers and don't know how to react and they may act out because of it. It doesn't mean they are guilty, especially when they havent been told what they may have done. They can refuse to let the police officer search their vehicle, etc. The police officer has the power to avoid escalating the situation unless its absolutely necessary, and it wasn't here at all. Teens being belligerent or non compliant with a cop? This isn't "that" rare of a thing, its not unheard of or anything. The immediate response isn't to angrily yank them out of their car and tase them

[Didymus 34,380]

Just now, RubberHeartt said:

Are you serious? You can easily youtube videos. Even the small tasers are enough to make someone pass out. 

Well, I apologize for not being educated about tasers

I don't know anything about them. All I know is that people willingly submit themselves to taser shots to know what it feels like. I assumed there was a safe maximum force in general.

1 minute ago, RubberHeartt said:

There's a thing called rights. A person has a choice to refuse if they believe the cop has no reason to be stopping them. Cmon didy! I love your posts, but really? 

Well, I don't know why he was stopped. I just assumed he was already driving contrary to what's allowed. In any case, I know what rights people have, and he didn't exercise them, nor was he being respectful in trying to exercise them in his own random way (though physically resisting when the cop tried to get him out of the car was most definitely a mistake).

Now, I already said the guy didn't deserve what he got and the cop did, so I don't get why that post is under attack rn lol.

[JevyDuty 2,961]

Just now, AlexanderLevi2 said:

Nope. The justice system is INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY. And that's how cops need to work. No one has to cooperate just because a cop stops you and tells you to do something.

Exactly! 

This is not France. A cop is not above the law. He's there to enforce. 

 

[AlexanderLevi2 5,849]

3 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

A kid is being rude? You don't have to yank them out of their car tase them and DROP their body to assert your authority. 

[Didymus 34,380]

17 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said:

So it's the kid's fault he got put into an induced coma  because he could have prevented it  

That's not at all what I said.

If you're not in the mood to argue then don't misread my posts on purpose.

20 minutes ago, nobody3089 said:

U should study the constitution of the United States before u make ur stupid comment. The cop is supposed to let him know why he's been arrested. He also had the right to roll his window only half way. The officer was just making excuses cause he definitely heard him. I heard him clearly and I'm sure the officer did too. And before u say something like I don't know what I'm talking about, I do. My cousin is a police officer and he told everything a cop is allow and not allow to do.

Well, sadly I know exactly how he should've exercised his rights and he didn't. Yes you have the right to roll your window down even less than halfway, but he was already endangering himself with that disrespectful tone which was basically already a sign of him not going to co-operate for the whole episode. The cop had no business getting in his car, and was wrong demanding him to get out, but at that point you have to co-operate and if you're smart enough you proclaim your right not to be searched, your car included. Instead he refused to get out in a way that's naturally going to annoy a cop, physically resisting for a remarkable time as well, that's just asking for trouble and yes, you deserve to be arrested for that (which is not even a big deal as long as you make sure you don't actually get convicted anyway, so what is this guy fearing?).

But He didn't deserve the aftermath, and the cop got his punishment both for excessive force and for falsifying his account. I'm not defending him, I'm just saying the guy could probably have prevented the outcome by exercising his rights appropriately, which is something that's important for everyone reading this for possible future experience, though that ofc doesn't mean the cop is free from blame, which I never said, so I'm kind of annoyed that people so lovingly try to play this whole "cop vs. victim" scenario. It's not one or the other.

[FATCAT 60,888]

I have a friend that's huge, 250lbs and about 6-7 feet. If he gets hit by a tazer, he's dead. Heart conditions.

[Luiz 4,253]

guy said his window was broken which could just be a lie i guess but what the kid did was so minor. a calm and collected officer would have reasoned with this person and told him the reason why rolling the window down is required.but he immediately went to force where it wasnt yet needed. judging by the way the officer reacted so angrily and swiftly i think its safe to say he was having a horrible day and wasnt thinking straight and made a huge mistake costing this kid some brain cells when he dropped him ruthlessly to the asphalt. 

i've seen this type of scenario play out with the whole "i know my rights" type of interaction and the officer usually tries to reason with the person and do it peacefully because thats what an officer is supposed to do. the teen was in my opinion within his  rights to ask what he was stopped for because there really wasnt a reason for the stop that the driver could easily discern. there were no traffic violations committed because the stop was for a warrant that was a mistake

"The traffic stop was based on a warrant from Kansas City, which turned out to be a mistake connected to the license plate on the vehicle the boy was driving." 

so the driver was rightfully suspicious. 

 

another variable is what was the kansas city warrant for? like if the warrant was out on the license plate because someone with that same license plate maybe did a hit and run on a kid or something so the police officer just assumed the driver deserved this kind of treatment but in all honesty even if that was the scenario the officer still went too far. 

[Himeros26 1,688]

oh my good god 

These police need background checks and mental checkups, they seem so angry. 

In my neighborhood my brother got stopped twice by the same cop. He was asked for his license but not registration,  then asked repeatedly if he had narcotics in the vehicle. He was on his way from work. 

 

[Bear 7,515]

Both of them acted poorly. The kid should have just co-operated, if he wasn't guilty of anything what was the point of being stubborn to prolong the encounter more than necessary?  Likewise, the cop handled it badly from the very beginning (from his tone being so disrespectful, clearly enjoying abusing his power and refusing to explain why he has pulled the kid over) to the end and the obvious assault on this kid.

While both acted stupid, the difference is one of them is meant to be professional, and is paid to protect and serve the people. A good cop has to remain calm and rational even (especially even) if things aren't going smoothly. Nothing this cop did was rational or reasonable, and I'm surprised he was only jailed for four years.

 

[ARTPOPNick 3,486]

1 hour ago, Hooker said:

Both of them acted poorly. The kid should have just co-operated, if he wasn't guilty of anything what was the point of being stubborn to prolong the encounter more than necessary?  Likewise, the cop handled it badly from the very beginning (from his tone being so disrespectful, clearly enjoying abusing his power and refusing to explain why he has pulled the kid over) to the end and the obvious assault on this kid.

While both acted stupid, the difference is one of them is meant to be professional, and is paid to protect and serve the people. A good cop has to remain calm and rational even (especially even) if things aren't going smoothly. Nothing this cop did was rational or reasonable, and I'm surprised he was only jailed for four years.

 

Yeah totally agree, my dad is a cop (not in America fortunately), but sometimes, I feel like people are just playing "a game" with the police.. How many times my dad tells storys about those "criminals' (dunno how to say it in a more polite way in English) who are just laughing in their faces, and the police can't do a thing..

In this case the police didn't do the best job, but if that guy just participated this probably wouldn't have happened, in the end, it was the guy who made the first mistake and started the whole "domino effect", but we can't deny that the cops made a big mistake too... But you know, if the police asks me something, i will participate, because I have nothing to hide, and if everyone would be like that, we wouldn't need the police.... 

But, before you attack me, I do think this is wrong, but please respect the police, it's easy to speak about someone's job but be careful..