NYT Reporter Suggests Sanders Is "Sexist" for Not Quitting Race

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1 minute ago, MJHolland said:

If you want to talk research, it's statistically clear that WHEN women run, they are just as likely to win as men are. Talking about just the presidency is anecdotal. 

What. Let's backtrack and trace this to see where this came from  

My assertion: "Some people are sexist and do not wish to vote for Clinton because she is a woman"

Your Counter: "I've never seen this"

My Counter: "There's a ton of evidence to suggest that this is actually not a rare thing at all~"

Your Counter: "There's also a ton of research that says when women run they are just as likely to win as men!"

~~~ Okay? That has no bearing on whether people openly admit they don't want, don't feel the need, don't trust, don't think we are ready for, etc. a woman president, which they do as evidenced by decades of polling information and surveys  It demonstrates that a good portion of the population actually WOULD not vote for Clinton, or really any woman specifically because she is a woman, which defeats your claim that this is not a thing (because you haven't seen it  ) Specific polling is specific for a reason, which is why its not asking "Do you think women are fit to run for office?"  People obviously think of Presidency as not just a normal office, it has special importance that I'm not gonna explain because it should be quite apparent.  

The only way that this is anecdotal is if you move the goalposts and change what we are talking about and extrapolate to it to some new kind of argument that "People not wanting women in office is not significant enough to prevent women from entering public office", in which case there's more evidence to be found here; not to mention the Presidency is a specific office for a reason and polling reflects that

For the record though, Some people don't even think women should be WORKING, let alone be able to hold public office. Millions of people honestly think a women's prime function in life is to have sexxx with men have babies and take care of them and be subservient to her man in anyway he wishes  This is actually weak logic how I've presented it just now, but its also factual and I just think you are underestimating sexism in general  

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9 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

What. Let's backtrack and trace this to see where this came from  

My assertion: "Some people are sexist and do not wish to vote for Clinton because she is a woman"

Your Counter: "I've never seen this"

My Counter: "There's a ton of evidence to suggest that this is actually not a rare thing at all~"

Your Counter: "There's also a ton of research that says when women run they are just as likely to win as men!"

~~~ Okay? That has no bearing on whether people openly admit they don't want, don't feel the need, don't trust, don't think we are ready for, etc. a woman president, which they do as evidenced by decades of polling information and surveys  It demonstrates that a good portion of the population actually WOULD not vote for Clinton, or really any woman specifically because she is a woman, which defeats your claim that this is not a thing (because you haven't seen it  ) Specific polling is specific for a reason, which is why its not asking "Do you think women are fit to run for office?"  People obviously think of Presidency as not just a normal office, it has special importance that I'm not gonna explain because it should be quite apparent.  

The only way that this is anecdotal is if you move the goalposts and change what we are talking about and extrapolate to it to some new kind of argument that "People not wanting women in office is not significant enough to prevent women from entering public office", in which case there's more evidence to be found here; not to mention the Presidency is a specific office for a reason and polling reflects that

For the record though, Some people don't even think women should be WORKING, let alone be able to hold public office. Millions of people honestly think a women's prime function in life is to have sexxx with men have babies and take care of them and be subservient to her man in anyway he wishes  This is actually weak logic how I've presented it just now, but its also factual and I just think you are underestimating sexism in general  

Most people aren't sexist. We've almost entirely overcome sexism. Let's not try to pretend women are still suppressed in the US when they go to college more than men and are presented the same or more opportunities. The wage gap is almost entirely myth. 

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2 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

Most people aren't sexist. We've almost entirely overcome sexism. Let's not try to pretend women are still suppressed in the US when they go to college more than men and are presented the same or more opportunities. The wage gap is almost entirely myth. 

I see at least 1-2 assertions per sentence that are either naive or entirely false.
Theres just too much and I don't have the time or patience to explain all of it tbh.

I'm out