Rob Fusari appreciation

[Didymus 34,379]

3 minutes ago, giskardsb said:

There is quite a lot of doubt about that. Fusari is 20 years older and was in a position of power over her. At least one of the Gaga biographies mentions that Gaga felt pressured into the relationship but was afraid for her career.  This could easily be what she means when she mentions having hidden the truth from herself for so long.  And why she might consider that episode as sexual assault now. 

So one biography does now qualify as proof for "quite a lot of doubt"? If any account of the facts is to be trusted it's Wendy's since she was at Gaga's side 24/7 and knew all about that relationship, to her own annoyance. Wendy (I'm guessing that's where you got it from) does say Gaga entered the relationship half-heartedly, but that to her own surprise this quickly changed, even though Rob was engaged at that time, Gaga being emotionally distraught over not being able to really be with him (cue Brown Eyes). Wendy attributes the arising tension in their relationship to Jane (the fiancée) finding out and Gaga moving on to Lüc since he was actually available.

Plus, Rob only discovered her in 2006. Gaga says she was raped at 19, that's impossible to connect to the story of her discovery unless she got her age wrong (which I doubt if she was so specific enough to mention it at all). Wendy saw Gaga for the first time in March 2006, they started working together in April, started dating in May. Gaga was 20 at the time. I also find it hard to believe that Gaga would've introduced a rapist to her family. I remember in an interview from 2009 or 2010 she jokingly reminisces about the time she brought him home, a man nearly twice her age.

That, connected to the thread Kayla mentioned, tells me there's a lot of things pointing to the direction of Gaga and Rob just having had a tremendously emotionally exhausting relationship (as painted by Wendy) that was troubled by the fact that Rob was essentially, to Gaga's frustration, unavailable, and not to the idea of Rob abusing her and Gaga continuing a very emotionally invested relationship.

Of course we won't know 100% for certain, but to simply pass off the idea that Rob raped her as something that should be seen as an obvious fact is just totally crossing the line since there's literally zero evidence except for the fact that Gaga pointed out that her abuser was twice her age, which would (almost) be the case for Rob.

So I do take back my "it's not him" statement since I don't know, but I refuse to accept that there's sufficient evidence to just assume it's him.

[lego 44,165]

Repeating myself from my status:

 

Her rapist said to everyone they were dating, she didn't.

She was 19 when it happened, she didn't realize it until many years later. She thought "that's how adults behave". In Rivington Was Ours book, it's said Gaga had a boyfriend, member of her band when she met Fusari and Fusari made him leave, fired him behind her back. He was married or engaged at the time, can't remember.

Her rapist was twice her age, according to Howard Stern interview. Rob is twice her age.

"RedOne was first producer who didn't try to put hands up her skirt". Who did she work with before him?

"if you knew the timeline of all the people I worked with, it doesn't take the rocket scientist to figure out " (why is she pointing out that her abuser is known to us?)

She knew that all these hints lead to Rob and her camp never denied, but when Kesha's lawyer said it's dr Luke, they had to deny.

Plus all the disgusting tweets by Rob, where he's mocking her and asking to "name her rapist ", if it's not him why would he embarrass himself like that? She can't name him, cause it's impossible to prove and he could once again try to get her money and sue her for defamation.

He said she invented rape for attention.

In their court papers important parts were blacked out and Rob said Gaga used "inflammatory language" to paint him in bad way, wonder what that may be?

Everything points towards him. Those pics of them together in the studio could've been taken before the rape occurred so they're not really evidence of anything.

Anyway, he is disgusting human being judging only by his IG posts and tweets about her and Tony, he's obsessed and needs help. She knows this fanbase suspects it's him, it would be easy for anyone from the Haus to say it's not him, leave him alone but they won't.

Also have to add, I asked DJWS to give me a hint if Swine was about Fusari and he just followed me, I took that as a hint. 

 

[lego 44,165]

25 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Like there aren't all kinds of assumptions made on this timeline. The assumptions on Rob have way more basis than fans making up deeply personal assumptions on Gaga having an abortion...or even murdering someone. If that **** is allowed here, the assumptions on Rob Fusari are certainly allowable. 

 

 

Thank you. That other thread is a mess. 

 

[Swan Heart 7,382]

I'm almost sure it's him.

And even if it wasn't, the awlful remarks he has been making about Gaga and Tony are more then enough for me. He's a pig. I even feel bad that one of my favourite songs ever is produced by him.

[Didymus 34,379]

@Whispering @YourSweet666 @Kayla

If anything, Joe Vulpis fits the bill. They worked together in 2006 when she was 19 (not 20 as she was when she worked with Rob), it was her first experience with a record producer (which she alludes to when she says, paraphr.: "I came right out of Catholic school and I thought: this is what adults are like?") and it makes sense that she was quiet about it because she was introduced to him by her father who knew him from a country club.

A lot more "evidence" if you ask me yet I never saw his name brought up.

I don't know how old he is but he definitely looks old enough.

The only thing not matching is that Gaga only saw him once at a store after working with him. This photo obviously points to the contrary. But anyway, that same argument doesn't work for Rob either.

[Church 849]

I have nooo idea what to believe. There's so many valid points & debates in this thread Sometimes I wonder if Gaga was exaggerating or possibly even making it up (before anyone attacks me, I'm not claiming I think she was, I just know she has lied & exaggerated constantly throughout her entire career)

Rob produced some great tracks that I love, but they haven't aged well. They aren't as timeless as alot of Gaga's other work.

[crisTEAne 21,059]

this should be closed. imagine gagz coming here and seeing her rapist's appreciation thread (if he did it, of course). either way, it's insensitive, just like that other thread about her alleged abortion. 

[lego 44,165]

6 minutes ago, T E A said:

this should be closed. imagine gagz coming here and seeing her rapist's appreciation thread (if he did it, of course). either way, it's insensitive, just like that other thread about her alleged abortion. 

 

tbh 

it's like Perez Hilton appreciation thread.

We know Gaga and Rob are on bad terms, we know he likes to use this fanbase and give double-faced interviews (remember "she likes to throw people off the roof?") and bash her on twitter and IG, mock her about rape...

Those things alone should be enough, not to praise him around here. 

[Kayla 7,595]

1 hour ago, Didymus said:

@Whispering @YourSweet666 @Kayla

If anything, Joe Vulpis fits the bill. They worked together in 2006 when she was 19 (not 20 as she was when she worked with Rob), it was her first experience with a record producer (which she alludes to when she says, paraphr.: "I came right out of Catholic school and I thought: this is what adults are like?") and it makes sense that she was quiet about it because she was introduced to him by her father who knew him from a country club.

A lot more "evidence" if you ask me yet I never saw his name brought up.

I don't know how old he is but he definitely looks old enough.

The only thing not matching is that Gaga only saw him once at a store after working with him. This photo obviously points to the contrary. But anyway, that same argument doesn't work for Rob either.

http://ladygaga.wikia.com/wiki/Joe_Vulpis

"Joe Vulpis is a producer who worked with the Stefani Germanotta Band. They started recording in November 2006, and finished the five track demo, Words"

[Didymus 34,379]

36 minutes ago, Kayla said:

http://ladygaga.wikia.com/wiki/Joe_Vulpis

"Joe Vulpis is a producer who worked with the Stefani Germanotta Band. They started recording in November 2006, and finished the five track demo, Words"

That's a typo, it's meant to be November 2005. Words was released in January 2006 so it's impossible they started working later that year. He also produced Red and Blue which was released in March, right before she met Fusari.

Anyway, I gave up, 'cause a lot of the claims don't work in his favor (esp. "I was already Lady Gaga when it happened" - that means she undoubtedly got the 19 age wrong, since she only got the name at 20 years of age, unless she got her memory wrong and she wasn't "Lady Gaga" yet). Not one person we know of fits everything she said, which is quite odd. But in any case, it makes me wanna give up the quest completely because in the end it doesn't matter who it is, and it's quite uncomfortable to even discuss it like this. Gaga knows but came to terms with it which is all that counts, we should move on too. She never told us or the world to go on a witch hunt.