Microscope 710 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 she hired a castle for the g.u.y. video how does it look cheap? Take my hand. Stay, Joanne. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nono 3,576 Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Microscope said: she hired a castle for the g.u.y. video how does it look cheap? Some parts, like location, outfits, do look expensive I agree, it wasnt the best example but the housewifes and lego things, MJ and minecraft made it look cheaper for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanripley 86,575 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Nono said: Sometimes they can make or break era, if it goes viral.. The promotion is more important but if you wanna have a hit, the video itself with promotion must be really good... You think that rihannas work would have got to the 1. place on billboard because of the actual song???? No, the video went viral on insta, fb and everywhere.. and what about all about that bass? Where was the promotion? Please.. yeah but the work video is trash https://goo.gl/xMgMvJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nono 3,576 Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 Just now, ryanripley said: yeah but the work video is trash I'm not a fan either, but the GP liked it, it went viral and that brainless song became a hit because of it.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagata 695 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Her cheapest MV probably is BDR , but some how that MV is sooooooo fancy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microscope 710 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Nono said: Some parts, like location, outfits, do look expensive I agree, it wasnt the best example but the housewifes and lego things, MJ and minecraft made it look cheaper for me i see what you mean but they symbolise modern pop and art culture sensations, a big thing for the ARTPOP era. the housewifes represent reality tv, the minecraft thing relates to the sensation of gaming and youtube and she got a quite famous internet youtuber to do it, the lego is literally her head on a famous lego art piece from a pretty known modern artist sean kenny and mj needs no explanation (but i do agree the impersonater made it look cheap ) Take my hand. Stay, Joanne. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 15,892 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 18 minutes ago, Nono said: Sometimes they can make or break era, if it goes viral.. The promotion is more important but if you wanna have a hit, the video itself with promotion must be really good... You think that rihannas work would have got to the 1. place on billboard because of the actual song???? No, the video went viral on insta, fb and everywhere.. and what about all about that bass? Where was the promotion? Please.. if you want an artist that needs a viral hit to be classified as a "better artist" then stan someone who makes videos that are viral... Plus look at viral music videos, their buzz dies down like any viral video does... Do people still care about Anaconda? All About That Bass? Sorry's Dance Video? The second Work video? Gaga is more known for her vocal ability, songwriting and people are waiting on her next move to see if she'll actually take music back to the way it should be; about the music. I'd take that over ANY viral video. Plus, if you need controversy and a viral video to make your song a hit, is it even a good song to begin with? Let's take Bad Romance for example, it was a hit for being a good pop song and having excellent promotion, the video didn't even become a big thing in pop culture and in music video history till almost THREE YEARS later. And that's not even me making that up, it's from all my own memories having been in this fanbase since late 2008. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nono 3,576 Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 19 minutes ago, gagzus said: if you want an artist that needs a viral hit to be classified as a "better artist" then stan someone who makes videos that are viral... Plus look at viral music videos, their buzz dies down like any viral video does... Do people still care about Anaconda? All About That Bass? Sorry's Dance Video? The second Work video? Gaga is more known for her vocal ability, songwriting and people are waiting on her next move to see if she'll actually take music back to the way it should be; about the music. I'd take that over ANY viral video. Plus, if you need controversy and a viral video to make your song a hit, is it even a good song to begin with? Let's take Bad Romance for example, it was a hit for being a good pop song and having excellent promotion, the video didn't even become a big thing in pop culture and in music video history till almost THREE YEARS later. First of all, Dont tell me what to do. You are the last person that is going to tell me for who I should stan for... yes neither of these videos are relevant right know but guess what neither is G.U.Y but hey at least these videos had their 15 minutes so better ever than never And for the Bad romance, the song was great, the promotion was great, the music video was her best and still is and all of that combined made that iconic hit edit: And I did not say/mean that anyone needs a viral hit to be classified as a "better artist". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Tulip 12,428 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I agree I mean Gaga herself even admitted a few months ago that The Fame and The Fame Monster are her favorite albums and referred to them as her "golds". I agree that she was more creative during those two eras because with born this way and ARTPOP her label started to restrict her artistic visions and themes. However aside from ARTPOP era which is the past, I would NOT say Gaga is cheap right now. I know some people like to call Cheek To Cheek a "side project" but is NOT a side project at all and I wish Gaga herself would use the LG6 acronym instead of LG5 because I consider Cheek To Cheek her 5th album and it's a great body of work encompassing her vocal capabilities and improvements. I think this next album has potential to be her best work now that she's not limited and is using more instruments for a more organic sound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopThatArt 2,193 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 She was more determined and actually pushed herself to make music and she didn't slack. Now that she has money, she's slacking. Can she go back to being poor and hustling to make music and be heard again? Can she keep pumping money into Backplane and go bankrupt so she's poor again like us? And then she hustles to make music and get a paycheck again? Go see A Star is Born Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopThatArt 2,193 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Also, Monsters discussed this topic like a year ago, so many of us feel the money is a hindrance on her creativity. Sure it buys expensive clothes and sets, but the drive just isn't there anymore. Go see A Star is Born Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 15,892 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 17 minutes ago, Nono said: First of all, Dont tell me what to do. You are the last person that is going to tell me for who I should stan for... yes neither of these videos are relevant right know but guess what neither is G.U.Y but hey at least these videos had their 15 minutes so better ever than never And for the Bad romance, the song was great, the promotion was great, the music video was her best and still is and all of that combined made that iconic hit edit: And I did not say/mean that anyone needs a viral hit to be classified as a "better artist". But what is the point to literally claim to stan an artist only to be constantly dissatisfied and compare them to their work in their peak when everybody pretended to like them? And did I say G.U.Y. was remembered? Plus I'd rather her craft a beautiful music video just for the fans (which it literally was as her guilt for interscope pulling the plug on the era after DWUW and the album's reception) than craft a video to gain attention. And Bad Romance was NOT acknowledged by any major publication or critic till YEARS later. Otherwise TFM, TF & BTW would have much higher Metacritic scores than they do, considering how critics claim them to be "excellent" all of a sudden. Which we also shouldn't care for. And Bad Romance is only considered her best video from fans who clearly follow the GP bandwagon that started in 2012 for her past work, anyone with half a brain can see the better storytelling, editing and cinematography in her self directed videos is 1000x better. Everybody only wants Gaga to somehow magically become like what she was in her early career JUST for bragging rights in stan arguments, that's all it boils down too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nono 3,576 Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, gagzus said: But what is the point to literally claim to stan an artist only to be constantly dissatisfied and compare them to their work in their peak when everybody pretended to like them? And did I say G.U.Y. was remembered? Plus I'd rather her craft a beautiful music video just for the fans (which it literally was as her guilt for interscope pulling the plug on the era after DWUW and the album's reception) than craft a video to gain attention. And Bad Romance was NOT acknowledged by any major publication or critic till YEARS later. Otherwise TFM, TF & BTW would have much higher Metacritic scores than they do, considering how critics claim them to be "excellent" all of a sudden. Which we also shouldn't care for. And Bad Romance is only considered her best video from fans who clearly follow the GP bandwagon that started in 2012 for her past work, anyone with half a brain can see the better storytelling, editing and cinematography in her self directed videos is 1000x better. Everybody only wants Gaga to somehow magically become like what she was in her early career JUST for bragging rights in stan arguments, that's all it boils down too. To finish this mess... To be a stan does not mean to be delusional, i dont have to like all of her work, or to agree with everything she does or say, thats what delusional people and sheeps to, I dont. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 15,892 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Just now, Nono said: To finish this mess... To be a stan does not mean to be delusional, i dont have to like all of her work, or to agree with everything she does or say, thats what delusional people and sheeps to, I dont. Y'all try too hard thinking that by ripping everything your fave does makes you so unique, and I never said to be delusional, but you're being delusional if you don't see her music video and artistic evolution. G.U.Y. is a massive step up as a visual than ALL her previous videos, anyone with eyes can see that. I'm not saying say it's the best but acknowledge it as a better video than her early ones because it's a fact that it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisTEAne 21,059 Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 i can't. applause looks cheap to you? simple/minimalistic doesn't necessarily mean that it's cheap. if you hurt taylor swift, i'll hurt you back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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