StarstruckIllusion 52,773 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 A: because ever since ARTPOP flopped, those who actually gave a **** about Gaga's well being, (instead of being hooked on what music she serves them and them only, or hiding in a corner from all the bad press,) became self concioius about how they can make her not "flop anymore." Youre welcome. now please stop asking, and keep up. Why else do you care about sales, for those who do, so we an bookmark this thread as a final end to that annoying question? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,773 Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 hope I don't get a WP for being too blunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manul 7,377 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I'm dumb and I don't get if that is a negative or positive thing. it wasn't laaaahv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlaeUrAnus 15,970 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Sales highlight superiority. In my opinion. In my messy era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jylee 66 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Cause the more money she brings in, the higher her budget for subsequent albums and tours will be (dunno how true, but it makes sense). It also feels good to be stanning for an irrefutable queen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah 26,941 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just now, jylee said: Cause the more money she brings in, the higher her budget for subsequent albums and tours will be (dunno how true, but it makes sense). It also feels good to be stanning for an irrefutable queen Well the more successful - the more companies want to sponsor her tour/videos etc. ⟡ ⋆ ˚｡⋆🦢⋆ ˚｡⋆⟡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUO YI 6,089 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 If she doesn't sell well, she underperforms or even flops The night sky tells all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanWinchester 41,390 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Do you really think ARTPOP flopping did not affect her negatively? Did you really think it's just the fans who cared? Have you seen her meltdowns and excuses? I know all the quality>quantity and #MusicNottheBling tirade but to say she does not need even moderate success is ignorant. People will bash her again and she'll feel lost and devastated again artistically. Flyin' like a 1000 Doves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwontell 7,312 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Ppl see sales as a marker for someone's success, which is kind of natural when it comes to pop music. Of course it's kind of a stupid approach, since there are a bunch of other things that can't really be measured (like quality or how influential an artist actually is) which, in the long run, will allow someone to be perceived as more successful than others (more important then someone who, in a given moment, had really strong sales). Other than that (other than who the audience thinks to be "successful"), we have to consider that each and everyone has a personal definition of what "success" means. To some, yes, it's selling a lot of records and making bunch of money (Taylor? Katy?). To others it might be simply making stuff that they like (Lana, for example, is not a big seller, but she has a good reputation with critics and seems to truly enjoy what she creates...I don't think she ever intends to be "more like Taylor"). To others it might be delivering something innovative, unusual or maybe more technically demanding (Bjork, would be an example)...so how can I hold my ideas of success against these ppl and tell them what to do? And then there's how sales affect how much investment an artist get. I mean, if you sell a lot, if you're truly profitable, you'll get bigger stages, more money for videos, more promotion, yada, yada, yada...so depending on what you want to be as artist (and Gaga, for example, loves big stages, expensive videos, etc.), you'll need strong sales to keep yourself going! PERSONALLY... Sales, frankly, DO NOT determine how much I love an artist..actually, my natural tendency is to be a little disgusted by someone who sells a lot (99% of the ppl I like don't sell very well). However, I do understand that, though they're not as important as ppl currently think they are, sales do inform what the general idea about a certain artist is and they sort of determine what's the budget they'll have to work with...so in this sense they do matter. God, I talk a lot... ATTENTION: (bad) jokes and sarcasm are still a thing, so don't take everything I say literally. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandHeart 993 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, ROARyals said: A: because ever since ARTPOP flopped, those who actually gave a **** about Gaga's well being, (instead of being hooked on what music she serves them and them only, or hiding in a corner from all the bad press,) became self concioius about how they can make her not "flop anymore." Youre welcome. now please stop asking, and keep up. Why else do you care about sales, for those who do, so we an bookmark this thread as a final end to that annoying question? ARTPOP didn't actually flop. It just didn't sell 20 million records like people expected it too. That's too much pressure and expectation and she doesn't have a formula to replicate it. And again, I'll ask you, why do you care if it "flops"? If you like the music, so what if other people don't? Why be self-conscious about it? If Gaga accepts that some people won't like it, why can't you? Not everyone has to like her. I'm not being rude, I'm genuinely wondering why, because it's so confusing to me. If you don't have shadows you're not standing in the light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicka 2,385 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, SlaeUrAnus said: Sales highlight superiority. In my opinion. Yep. Justin Timberlake's "Can't Stop The Feeling" is the superior of all new music out right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Lazuli 8,654 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 The media seems to only care when Gaga "Flops" They don't seem to **** with other artists that are only successful because of streaming. Little Monsters Torture Me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlaeUrAnus 15,970 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, brooklynnightss said: Yep. Justin Timberlake's "Can't Stop The Feeling" is the superior of all new music out right now. I never commented on the standard of music, I commented on how good sales make an artist look superior. In my messy era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicka 2,385 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just now, SlaeUrAnus said: I never commented on the standard of music, I commented on how good sales make an artist look superior. Oh well then yeah, you're right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,950 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, Drunk Poet said: ARTPOP didn't actually flop. It just didn't sell 20 million records like people expected it too. That's too much pressure and expectation and she doesn't have a formula to replicate it. And again, I'll ask you, why do you care if it "flops"? If you like the music, so what if other people don't? Why be self-conscious about it? If Gaga accepts that some people won't like it, why can't you? Not everyone has to like her. I'm not being rude, I'm genuinely wondering why, because it's so confusing to me. Because Gaga ends the era early, we get a lower budgeted tour, and she gets depressed again and I for one as a fan feel bad for her. She deserves successes. And honestly, you'd have to be really naive to think she doesn't care about success. See ARTPOP and why she only had 3 singles and why she wrapped up the era so early, gave up on everything and basically seemed defeated until the tour started. She cares about successes. This is Lady Gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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