Maddow Performs Poetry Reading Of GOP Anti-Trump Anguish

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43 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

Lied 50% of the time? Are you ****ing kidding me. Selected Politico comments are hardly a basis for how much someone lies.

1) I'm sure just like the other bills he voted against, they contain much more than just those topics. 

2) Taxes go up, but you end up paying much less. Another empty concern.

3) I don't even see what the hell you're trying to say here. 

4) Because he's responsible for a bigoted comment made by people at a rally. That makes sense.

5) I don't hold the exact same views as a majority of the Democratic party. Does that mean he has to when it applies to the workers party?

1) The same holds true for Hillary. Bernie and his supporters bring up bills that Hillary has voted against or for. In a general election, these votes woukd be brought up against Bernie.

2) No, you don't end up paying less. That's BS. There is no such thing as a free lunch. You personally would be paying for everyone else's college education while paying your own loans. Your generation will never get out of your parent's house, if Bernie had his way. 

3) Do some research on your candidate. It's all out there.

4) It woukd be used against him. His favorable views and vocal support of many communist leaders and their governments would be a big issue for voters.

5) See #4. Against Trump, people would see Bernie as some unpatriotic "commie". It would be a massive issue, one that the GOP would put millions of dollars behind to exploit. 

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4 minutes ago, Whispering said:

1) The same holds true for Hillary. Bernie and his supporters bring up bills that Hillary has voted against or for. In a general election, these votes woukd be brought up against Bernie.

2) No, you don't end up paying less. That's BS. There is no such thing as a free lunch. You personally would be paying for everyone else's college education while paying your own loans. Your generation will never get out of your parent's house, if Bernie had his way. 

3) Do some research on your candidate. It's all out there.

4) It woukd be used against him. His favorable views and vocal support of many communist leaders and their governments would be a big issue for voters.

5) See #4. Against Trump, people would see Bernie as some unpatriotic "commie". It would be a massive issue, one that the GOP would put millions of dollars behind to exploit. 

1)So, you're saying that voting for D.O.M.A was for the greater good? That's BS.

2) Never said it was free, but the weight is not disproportionantly placed on the middle class.

3) I didn't say it wasn't out there, I'm saying I don't understand how that was meant to be an attack. He doesn't want children molesting eachother? Discussing when a teenager begins to think for themselves?

4) I don't doubt they'd spin it that way, but I don't have doubt it'd be easily shot down as republican chatter.

5) They'd try to spin it that way, yes, but he's for the people. We the people. A little education on the difference between communism and socialism goes a long way. This isn't the 70's anymore.

 

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8 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

1)So, you're saying that voting for D.O.M.A was for the greater good? That's BS.

2) Never said it was free, but the weight is not disproportionantly placed on the middle class.

3) I didn't say it wasn't out there, I'm saying I don't understand how that was meant to be an attack. He doesn't want children molesting eachother? Discussing when a teenager begins to think for themselves?

4) I don't doubt they'd spin it that way, but I don't have doubt it'd be easily shot down as republican chatter.

5) They'd try to spin it that way, yes, but he's for the people. We the people. A little education on the difference between communism and socialism goes a long way. This isn't the 70's anymore.

 

Oh you're actually providing counter-arguments to some degree. How refreshing.

1) Yes DOMA (and DADT) were defensive measures against a rising tide of homophobia that was taking root at the time. It effectively pacified the right and essentially opened the doors to allow the developments to occur. In any case, this is a hotly debated topic among LGBT people, with many saying it was not necessary while others saying it was. If it helps, many that said it helped (in regards to DADT) were soldiers. 

2) And it will only increase under Sanders' plans. No the rich are not going to pay for every American's education, healthcare, and other services. Taxes across the board are necessary. The amount that Sanders proposes to tax the rich is unfeasible. It's simply too much. The middle class will be forced to shell out more.

3) Not the point. The point is that they will spin it to make him sound like he supports child nudity and rebellious teenagers. This can have implications regarding anything really. It can be easily twisted.

4) Not really. Independents are a major part of the voter base, and many of them are easily turned off by the notion of anything un-American.

5) Sanders is not for the people. Sanders is for the working class. The working class are not all the people. They are part of the people. Furthermore, Sanders has little support among minorities, with most of his base being young white men. Regarding your comment, this isn't "a little communication". He willingly advocated for the dismantlement of the American military and dismissed the plights of families who had hostages in Iran. Not only are these irresponsible, they're also ignorant.

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12 hours ago, FATCAT said:

1)So, you're saying that voting for D.O.M.A was for the greater good? That's BS.

2) Never said it was free, but the weight is not disproportionantly placed on the middle class.

3) I didn't say it wasn't out there, I'm saying I don't understand how that was meant to be an attack. He doesn't want children molesting eachother? Discussing when a teenager begins to think for themselves?

4) I don't doubt they'd spin it that way, but I don't have doubt it'd be easily shot down as republican chatter.

5) They'd try to spin it that way, yes, but he's for the people. We the people. A little education on the difference between communism and socialism goes a long way. This isn't the 70's anymore.

 

1) I'm saying that Bernie and Hillary both vote for Bills for different reasons and that both records woukd be held against them.

2) The weight would be on everyone. You would pay for your "free college" (three year limited degree and limited acceptance at a community college) for the rest of your life, many times over more than just if you had gone to community college in the first place. The plan is unrealistic and isn't something that the majority of US college students woukd even want, if it was made available. Stop believing in fantasies! 

3) If you can't see where these writings would be a big problem, I don't know what to tell you. 

4 and 5) Please....you really think that these issues wouldn't be blown up? People don't do extensive research. They believe the five second sound bite and go with that. Bernie's stances and much of his past would be framed as "unAmerican" and that's all it would take!  

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2 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Oh you're actually providing counter-arguments to some degree. How refreshing.

 

I'm not messing with you anymore today, you feed too much off of this stuff.

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Just now, FATCAT said:

I'm not messing with you anymore today, you feed too much off of this stuff.

You continue to post here. I assume you are vested in this discussion.

Yet you haven't even acknowledged anything I've said. I was actually trying to provide relevant context or information. You jumped from point to point, frantically trying to retain your position.

It's fine. I have no interest in forcing people to converse with me. Just don't insult me by insinuating that I do this because I enjoy putting you down or something. This only continues to prove how much you demonize everything that disagrees with you. I'm not your enemy.

 

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4 minutes ago, Whispering said:

1) I'm saying that Bernie and Hillary both vote for Bills for different reasons and that both records woukd be held against them.

2) The weight would be on everyone. You would pay for your "free college" (three year limited degree and limited acceptance at a community college) for the rest of your life, many times over more than just if you had gone to community college in the first place. The plan is unrealistic and isn't something that the majority of US college students woukd even want, if it was made available. Stop believing in fantasies! 

3) If you can't see where these writings would be a big problem, I don't know what to tell you. 

4 and 5) Please....you really think that these issues would be blown up? People don't do extensive research. They believe the five second sound bite and go with that! Bernie's stances and much of his past would be framed as "unAmerican" and that's all it would take!  

I don't think FATCAT is open to discussing this. Perhaps it's best if we just leave him alone.

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1 minute ago, LebaneseDude said:

You continue to post here. I assume you are vested in this discussion.

Yet you haven't even acknowledged anything I've said. I was actually trying to provide relevant context or information. You jumped from point to point, frantically trying to retain your position.

It's fine. I have no interest in forcing people to converse with me. Just don't insult me by insinuating that I do this because I enjoy putting you down or something. This only continues to prove how much you demonize 

 I'm not your enemy.

 

I'm vested in the discussion, but I'm not entertaining you any further. I'm not insinuating that you enjoy putting people down, I'm stating that you enjoy attempting to put people in their place. If they don't agree with you, they're incompetent.

You're not my friend, that's for sure.

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13 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

I'm vested in the discussion, but I'm not entertaining you any further. I'm not insinuating that you enjoy putting people down, I'm stating that you enjoy attempting to put people in their place. If they don't agree with you, they're incompetent.

You're not my friend, that's for sure.

 

You do notice how you've failed to address any point I brought up, and are now resorting to ad hominem in order to dismiss me. 

Do what you want. Just know that echo chambers will only be to your intellectual detriment.

Well we're on the Internet. Nobody is your friend.

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Can't wait for the protests in Cleveland this summer. 

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10 hours ago, Foxy said:

I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who read that as "Madonna" just now  

Nope

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14 hours ago, FATCAT said:

You can be respectful, and still against something. Maddow is not respectful.

Please. Continue to try to "expose" me.

Guess who is on MSNBC right now? That's right...Bernie with a one on one interview with Maddow. She is falling all over herself over interviewing him. She couldn't be more positive and respectful...just like I've seen her concerning Bernie on many, many occasions. 

 

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Just now, Whispering said:

Guess who is on MSNBC right now? That's right...Bernie with a one on one interview with Maddow. She is falling all over herself over interviewing him. She couldn't be more positive and respectful...just like I've seen her concerning Bernie on many, many occasions. 

 

Expose ha