Gaga Was Ahead With Visual Album Idea

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1 minute ago, PartySick said:

Actually *pushes up glasses* I think you'll find that ARTPOP could mean anything

It was an album and "movement" of creativity and freedom. One final push back against the people who were always trying to slap a label on art, pop culture, and anything in between...but you probably already knew that :sweat:

Physical pain

Do you mean the ArtRave?The album release party? 'Cause Volantis was debuted before that joint exposition/show  and of course the entirety of ARTPOP blew me away. The way she spoke about it, the way she sang and performed all the songs, you just don't see that kind of raw passion in many artists. ARTPOP literally changed my world view and personally affected me

I honestly can't remember the names of these shows anymore.  One was the one with her in black leotard and barefoot and dark hair.  I adored that little concert.

The other little concert was the one where the first song was ARTPOP and she was walking through the audience in the white outfit.  I loved that song and how she performed it, but nothing else.  The rest was kind of flat.  

I thought she was great on tour, because she's always great on tour and sold songs live that I didn't even like on the new album.  But, still, I never listen to the album.

I'm glad it was amazing for you and love it all.  I really do think that's great and for all the others that love it.  It just wasn't an album or concept that connected to me, except the few songs I still love off of it.

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1 minute ago, PopBitch said:

I honestly can't remember the names of these shows anymore.  One was the one with her in black leotard and barefoot and dark hair.  I adored that little concert.

The other little concert was the one where the first song was ARTPOP and she was walking through the audience in the white outfit.  I loved that song and how she performed it, but nothing else.  The rest was kind of flat.  

I thought she was great on tour, because she's always great on tour and sold songs live that I didn't even like on the new album.  But, still, I never listen to the album.

I'm glad it was amazing for you and love it all.  I really do think that's great and for all the others that love it.  It just wasn't an album or concept that connected to me, except the few songs I still love off of it.

Ooooh you mean the iTunes festival  I gotcha.

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10 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Actually *pushes up glasses* I think you'll find that ARTPOP could mean anything

It was an album and "movement" of creativity and freedom. One final push back against the people who were always trying to slap a label on art, pop culture, and anything in between...but you probably already knew that :sweat:

Physical pain

Do you mean the ArtRave?The album release party? 'Cause Volantis was debuted before that joint exposition/show  and of course the entirety of ARTPOP blew me away. The way she spoke about it, the way she sang and performed all the songs, you just don't see that kind of raw passion in many artists. ARTPOP literally changed my world view and personally affected me

Wow thank you for such a spirited and delightfully insightful response. I sense that ARTPOP had quite a similar vibration on you as it has with me! I mean I could go on and on about the idea. She's definitely taught me to look beyond my horizons. To challenge what I think I know.

About how art is not merely an objective, but a subjectivity within the observer (or listener) open to dimensions of interpretation.

About how art is not just simply something you wear, but how you wear it. About how the business of art and war are like two dancers afraid to face each other. About deconstructing definitions like classical versus contemporary, art versus pop, love versus sex and the stars/celebrities versus the cosmos/everyone. 

But I'll stop there. It makes me feel less alone knowing that Gaga has touched others the way she has touched me. And that there is an army of articulate people who understand and appreciate the passion and dedication that makes Gaga unique in the 21st century 

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10 hours ago, Enigma said:

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Beyonce and several others have released visual albums at this point. But way before Beyonce released her self titled album and Lemonade, Gaga was already planning on releasing a visual album. That visual album would have been ARTPOP, but as you all know, almost all her plans go canceled when she broke up with her manager Troy. However, you can still see hints of that visual album with GUY Music film were she included the songs ARTPOP, Venus, GUY, and MANiCURE. Now, Gaga was definitely not the first person to come up with this concept. But she was still pretty much ahead with this visual album concept in the mainstream scene. 

Michael Jackson intended to make his last studio album "Invincible" from 2001 a visual album, but Sony never wanted to fund him for promotion if he didn't tour for the album (along with other fund related issues: expensive album production costs, executive directors wanting to change the direction of the invincible album's sound, etc). Sony and MJ got in a legal case because of that. MJ did make a visual album of sorts in the 80s, called Moonwalker, which is a movie which include the music videos of the "BAD" album and a beatle cover which was later released on his 1995 compilation/album:  HIStory: Past, present, Future, Book I & II. Also he had the movie Ghosts (1997), which was practically a 40 min music video that featured 3 songs (2Bad, Is It Scary, Ghosts) from the HIStory album & Blood On The Dancefloor remix album.

so practically neither Gaga or Beyonce are original in that matter.

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1 minute ago, Lord Temptation said:

Wow thank you for such a spirited and delightfully insightful response. I sense that ARTPOP had quite a similar vibration on you as it has with me! I mean I could go on and on about the idea. She's definitely taught me to look beyond my horizons. To challenge what I think I know.

About how art is not merely an objective, but a subjectivity within the observer (or listener) open to dimensions of interpretation.

About how art is not just simply something you wear, but how you wear it. About how the business of art and war are like two dancers afraid to face each other. About deconstructing definitions like classical versus contemporary, art versus pop, love versus sex and the stars/celebrities versus the cosmos/everyone. 

But I'll stop there. It makes me feel less alone knowing that Gaga has touched others the way she has touched me. And that there is an army of articulate people who understand and appreciate the passion and dedication that makes Gaga unique in the 21st century 

Omg I think I love you

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8 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Omg I think I love you

I think I already do  love you too.

 

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7 hours ago, hmm said:

Why not address the main point of their post - Beyonce had already done a visual album years before Gaga had mentioned the idea  

6 hours ago, Kermit the frog said:

How is this forward thinking when Pink floyd did that 40 years before?

 

7 hours ago, Harry said:

How was she "ahead" with the idea if she wasn't the first to try and execute the concept? When even Beyonce - who you're desperately trying to put down again - already did it before Gaga's name was even known by anyone.

Does this suddenly mean Gaga wasn't ahead with her idea? Only a few mainstream artists have thought/done this visual album concept, specially in recent times. Even if those artists you mentioned did it before Gaga, Gaga was still ahead and forward thinking with her concept in the mainstream world.

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Kanye did it with MBDTF, which Lemonade draws a lot of inspiration from. Visual albums have been around for decades regardless, on a mainstream level too. Gaga doesn't deserve any credit for not doing something that wasn't a new idea to begin with 

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1 hour ago, Enigma said:

Does this suddenly mean Gaga wasn't ahead with her idea? Only a few mainstream artists have thought/done this visual album concept, specially in recent times. Even if those artists you mentioned did it before Gaga, Gaga was still ahead and forward thinking with her concept in the mainstream world.

But how is it "forward thinking" if the concept of a music film/video for each song has already been used by several well known artists before Gaga? Those sorts of claims and praises should be reserved for original ideas, otherwise where is the line? If she dropped an album tomorrow out of nowhere like Beyonce did in 2013, would you claim that she was "ahead" and "forward thinking" too just because only a handful of other popular artists have done that?

There are many things that I'd credit Gaga with being forward thinking for, but this idea is not one of them. I think the main point of this that no one seems to be addressing is that Gaga never actually did it. You're trying to give Gaga a one-up over Beyonce with this, when Beyonce has done it three times while Gaga just said she wanted to...

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11 hours ago, Enigma said:

But the idea was there very early on. And there is the GUY music film.

Let's not pretend that amateur mess is worth noting.

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1 minute ago, Harry said:

But how is it "forward thinking" if the concept of a music film/video for each song has already been used by several well known artists before Gaga? Those sorts of claims and praises should be reserved for original ideas, otherwise where is the line? If she dropped an album tomorrow out of nowhere like Beyonce did in 2013, would you claim that she was "ahead" and "forward thinking" too just because only a handful of other popular artists have done that?

There are many things that I'd credit Gaga with being forward thinking for, but this idea is not one of them. I think the main point of this that no one seems to be addressing is that Gaga never actually did it. You're trying to give Gaga a one-up over Beyonce with this, when Beyonce has done it three times while Gaga just said she wanted to...

This is not me giving Gaga the upper hand over Beyonce. Obviously Beyonce was also ahead with this idea even though she also did no do this first. But this is similar to when Gaga brought dance music to the mainstream in the US. She obviously did not come up with dance music as others had already done this before.

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1 minute ago, Kanye West said:

Let's not pretend that amateur mess is worth noting.

That is subjective.

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