Clinton “goysplains” to Bernie Sanders in Passover article

[lego 44,165]

17 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

She has nothing to gain at all at this point.

 

This was right before New York primary. 

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

19 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

 

Dying at these arguments.  

"This article isn't even appealing to Jewish voters"

Read the second link, how is it not trying to appeal to Jewish voters? 

 

This article condemns Hilary, it's not an article trying to sway Jewish voters to Bernie. My comment still stands. 

[Melech 9,900]

18 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Jewish people already know her stances. She's been VERY clearly pro-Israel. What she's doing is pressing the fact that she supports their interests as opposed to Sanders. It's not pandering, given that she's done so in the spotlight very recently.

It's not like Sanders, who randomly posts his civil rights efforts 30 years ago, while failing to actually show how he's helped African Americans in modern times, all while using random Christian gospel quotes.

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She's not demonizing Palestinians. She's against Palestinian aggressors like Hamas who are relentlessly attacking Israel. She's defending Israel's right to defend itself in that case. How is that a remotely bad stance?

Friendly reminder that she's the one who negotiated ceasefires between Israel and Palestine, in a conflict that would inevitably lead to a disproportionate number of dead Palestinians. 

Hamas, like many terrorist organizations, form because of oppression and have their reasons but that doesn't make them acceptable in any shape or form. How can you be pro-Hamas?

It's like being pro-Hezbollah. 

Why do I agree with you so often lately. Is getting scary

[Melech 9,900]

1 hour ago, just4fun said:

Sanders is agnostic. The article is void. Next

Being Jewish is something ethnically like being Arab for example 

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

8 minutes ago, Simon said:

Being Jewish is something ethnically like being Arab for example 

Yes and no. People turn to Judaism all the time. You can't turn Black, Hispanic or Asian. Arabs can be many religions most are Muslim. Those who turn to Judism become heavily invested in what happens in Isreal just as much as those who were born to it. 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

56 minutes ago, Simon said:

Why do I agree with you so often lately. Is getting scary

Cause I'm not a one-note guy. There are always many facets to every side that need to be examined. 

[TiphEret 1,320]

2 hours ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

The writer is Jewish, she's criticizing a Jewish candidate for trying to be "neutral", as in not doing enough for Jewish people of Israel, as much as she does. Just read her article on second link. 

 

I did but how is this related to what I have said? This is exactly what I disagree with, so because Hillary is a goy she can't have an opinion? I mean even if her opinion sucks she should be challenged on what she said and not who she is or her ethnicity. It's poor rhetoric, it just shows they don't have much to say about her argument if they have to attack her because she is a goy. When people start doing this, personal attacks or devaluing the person they argue with or against it's hard to take them seriously, to me it seems they can't find better arguments and honestly there is tons of them to contradict what she says.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

41 minutes ago, TiphEret said:

there is tons of them to contradict what she says.

I'd love to hear them 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

2 hours ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

This was right before New York primary. 

Yes I'm aware.

[Whispering 18,865]

4 hours ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

Oh so Clinton pandering to Israel with Biblical quotes is ok now?

Where did you get that he's agnostic and so what if he is? Jewish person can be an atheist, it's ethnicity too, not just religion. 

He's Jewish. 

 

She believes in the same Bible and has for her entire life. 

Bernie is agnostic and only ever mentions his "faith" in a very nondescript way when directly questioned about it. Hillary has been talking about her belief in God and the Bible her entire political and personal life. 

All of this is a political issue that has been and will be discussed by every politician at any kind of federal level. Hillary and any other politician have been and will continue to make statements and have opinions on this issue. 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

8 minutes ago, Whispering said:

All of this is a political issue that has been and will be discussed by every politician at any kind of federal level. Hillary and any other politician have been and will continue to make statements and have opinions on this issue. 

What's disturbing is that many people employ the "us vs them" mentality and expect it from the politicians. 

Hillary is pro-Israel, and I personally disagree with her on some sub-notions, but that doesn't make her anti-Palestine by default. Some people here paint everyone not wearing a keffeyeh as an enemy. 

That they fail to see that it's the same logic terrorists use is somewhat ironic  

[Sid 6,755]

came here because of the word goysplain 

 

sounds just as gross to me as a word like moist 

[lego 44,165]

16 minutes ago, Whispering said:

She believes in the same Bible and has for her entire life. 

Bernie is agnostic and only ever mentions his "faith" in a very nondescript way when directly questioned about it. Hillary has been talking about her belief in God and the Bible her entire political and personal life. 

All of this is a political issue that has been and will be discussed by every politician at any kind of federal level. Hillary and any other politician have been and will continue to make statements and have opinions on this issue. 

 

Feels like a double standard from you guys. Same Bible? Christians mostly ignore the Old Testament, especially when all the cruelties, slavery, murders etc are brought up. New Testament supposedly replaced all other laws and everything before doesn't really matter, it's just there.

The Jewish people don't believe in Jesus (to put it mildly) and the New Testament. You're making it like she has basically the same religion with them.

Idk why is it so hard for all of you to be fair and admit that this was pandering. It was pandering at AIPAC conference. It's pandering in this condescending article she wrote for right-wing Times Of Israel. 

 

 

[DrewStevens 5,249]

I don't agree with Hillary's points but she never "goysplained" in that article.

Yes, she criticized Bernie's point of view but she never said "Bernie Sanders should be on Israel's side because he is Jewish and all jews should feel like this". That would have been "goysplaining".

This is just plain sensationalism just like the other article you posted about Hillary being way more dangerous than Donald Trump. It only have to read and do some research to find how stupid these articles are.

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

23 minutes ago, YourSweet666 said:

 

Feels like a double standard from you guys. Same Bible? Christians mostly ignore the Old Testament, especially when all the cruelties, slavery, murders etc are brought up. New Testament supposedly replaced all other laws and everything before doesn't really matter, it's just there.

The Jewish people don't believe in Jesus (to put it mildly) and the New Testament. You're making it like she has basically the same religion with them.

Idk why is it so hard for all of you to be fair and admit that this was pandering. It was pandering at AIPAC conference. It's pandering in this condescending article she wrote for right-wing Times Of Israel. 

 

 

"Christians mostly ignore the Old Testament" lol. Either you've never been to a Christian church or you're just lying. The story of Exodus is taught in every Christian church. Pastors quote the Old Testament all the time. Stories of Job, David, and Moses are taught in every Christian church.