HighlandHeart 993 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 1 hour ago, MGC said: I don't really understand the underperformance of BBHMM at this point. Still, Work is enyojable in a certain way. It's far from being her best song (still miss her Loud-TTT eras) but it's definitely a grower. I hated it at the beginning, now I have it on my playlist. I don't really know why, but it's captivating Funny how everyone hates it at first then plays it endlessly. It's how they get you. It's formulaic, fruitless, antiseptic garbage. But none of that matters, because they make it repetitive, catchy and the easiest form of garage possible to digest. Once that is set in motion, all receptors in your brain which before resisted it basically collapses. If you don't have shadows you're not standing in the light. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 On 18.04.2016. at 9:04 PM, Bitter said: this + the lack of competition. yeah songs manage to get #1 nine weeks in a row cause there is "no competition" lmao. If Gaga released now and eneded up being #5 you would all brag how there is big competition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 this "no competition" and "streaming" exuses make no sense. Just cause there is no songs selling 300k doesn't mean there is no competition. Sales in general are dying and several songs selling 100k is a big competiton. But thing is sales aren't only factor to measure competition but a streams. It's not Billboard's fault you all fail to adapt to the new times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 ddd rihanna won even during anti Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 On 4/18/2016 at 11:06 PM, Harry said: Mess if Gaga had a #1 for nine weeks everyone on here would be lapping it up Congratulations to Rihanna for having such a successful single. gaga's last #1 hit was 5 years ago i call it bitterness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prismatic 4,789 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Yanko said: ddd rihanna won even during anti what were you expecting? talent always win. rihanna always win. I Only Stan For Risk Takers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson123 38,458 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 This is my jam, honestly. Anti was a success to me, I listen to that album more than I ever listened to Loud or Talk That Talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelic 1,098 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I don't like this song either, but you're all so bitter. I can't imagine what you guys will turn into if Gaga flops again! Oh yeah, I have an idea... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ryan 1,468 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 5 hours ago, MGC said: I don't really understand the underperformance of BBHMM at this point. Still, Work is enyojable in a certain way. It's far from being her best song (still miss her Loud-TTT eras) but it's definitely a grower. I hated it at the beginning, now I have it on my playlist. I don't really know why, but it's captivating BBHMM was for urban stations. It went #1 that song definitely did not underpeform. It was one of Rihanna's urban singles. I don't know how people keep forgetting she purposely puts out some songs just for urban radio. She's a R&B/Urban/Pop singer. If she does well in any of those formats, the song is a success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaco95 1,631 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 On 18/4/2016 at 1:10 PM, Enhsa said: How ?? It's not even top 10 on iTunes why you all are so obsessed with itunes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenniferella 2,774 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 You can all suck it This song is everything "I have been writing LG5 since I was 13" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 On 4/18/2016 at 2:01 PM, Gohan said: This song is such a delicious guilty pleasure like how everybody loves Mc Donalds but they know it's **** for their bodies TSwizzle is that you? 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 On 19 avril 2016 at 10:10 PM, Bad Bromance said: Welcome to the 2010s, guys. Streaming is what's going to make an artist chart. You mofos better buy a physical copy and a digital one on iTunes as well stream the f*ck out of Gaga's new lead single when it finally drops. Seems that streaming is what's keeping these songs in the top 5 on the BB Hot 100 chart. Ready to buy LG5 physical and digital, but stream it anytime i listen to it so gaga gets those charts points + $ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 On 4/19/2016 at 4:03 PM, StrawberryBlond said: I notice it too. A lot of songs now have incoherent mumbling, lazy enunciation, bad vocals, silly accents, obnoxious laughing and daft sound effects. I'm completely stumped as to why we're giving them the time of day. By supporting them, we telling artists this is the kind of music they should make. Maybe back then but not now. There simply isn't another song that's as big as that one in the US right now, so it can easily go to the top. I can dance, it's just that this one just can't ignite that feeling within me. It's weird because the dancing in the video doesn't match up to the actual tempo of the song - it's either too fast or slowed down too much. Yes, there are lyrics available, but that still doesn't help my enjoyment. I don't like lazy singing and lyrics that are hard to decipher. I don't want to have to remember a "translation" every time I hear a song. Thing is, even looking at the supposed lyrics, I have a hard time even believing these are the case. I mean, when she says "When you gonna learn, learn. learn, learn, learn," I'm convinced she's just saying "luh luh luh luh luh." And when she says "me nah care if he hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt, hurting," I hear nothing but "ta ta ta ta ta ta." That's just what I hear and I'm surprised that anyone else could possibly translate it into anything else. Never mind how she totally goes lazy when she says "work," just making it sound like "wuh wuh wuh wuh wuh." That isn't Caribbean speak, that's just lazy singing, they're not the same thing. Caribbean is a very hard dialect to understand, the way the words are spoken so fast and seem to fuse together. I normally have a great ear for accents but when traditional Caribbean dialects come into play, I'm lost. If I spoke in my traditional Scottish dialect and accent, most of you would be lost (maist a' ye wid b' loast!) and I wouldn't feel offended about that. Certain dialects aren't recognised as an official language, so you don't have a book that you can look up translations and they're not widely known or taught in school. It doesn't mean you're ignorant or don't want to learn. And when you say if it was in Spanish, it wouldn't get the same treatment, what do you mean? It would do better/worse, or get it treated better/worse? It's called Patois or in this case Jamaican Patois/Creole Furthermore, this is just laden with implications that if its not comprehensible (code for "English" and it actually IS comprehensible ) that its not good, real or worthy. That's all kinds of messed up. Some of the best artists in the world don't have the best diction, let alone powerhouse vocals, some of them come from other places of the world ("silly accents?" ) and some people know that a song doesn't need to be completely serious or even take itself seriously to be good (laughter) Some great songs dont even have words This just sounds very narrow-minded tbh . The language in the song is totally appropriate and does not to go through some sort of westernized English filter to be considered a reputable body of work just because you think it sounds lazy Part of what makes this song so catchy is all of the things you and others seem to not like about it, which is the beauty of subjectivity Like many other aspects of society, designating English as a "proper" language and even then, deciding what kind of English from its large list of variations is the most proper or formal or official or plain "best" kind has been and is still a method of demeaning and othering people who don't speak it. It bothers me 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,874 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 52 minutes ago, ItsVenusBitch said: It's called Patois or in this case Jamaican Patois/Creole Furthermore, this is just laden with implications that if its not comprehensible (code for "English" and it actually IS comprehensible ) that its not good, real or worthy. That's all kinds of messed up. Some of the best artists in the world don't have the best diction, let alone powerhouse vocals, some of them come from other places of the world ("silly accents?" ) and some people know that a song doesn't need to be completely serious or even take itself seriously to be good (laughter) Some great songs dont even have words This just sounds very narrow-minded tbh . The language in the song is totally appropriate and does not to go through some sort of westernized English filter to be considered a reputable body of work just because you think it sounds lazy Part of what makes this song so catchy is all of the things you and others seem to not like about it, which is the beauty of subjectivity Like many other aspects of society, designating English as a "proper" language and even then, deciding what kind of English from its large list of variations is the most proper or formal or official or plain "best" kind has been and is still a method of demeaning and othering people who don't speak it. It bothers me I can't tell as I'm not educated in those languages. Is it a different spelling of Patwa? It's not like anyone else is going to know the difference either. I was told that Caribbean languages are just forms of broken English, so I'm not sure how many there are or how they differ. I'm not saying it's not good, real or worthy, nor is it a code for "not English" (I'm surprised it did as well as it did in non English speaking countries, to be honest) just that it's not understandable to 99% of the population as it's such a local, unknown language, so it's meaningless to us. The verses are understandable, but not the chorus. I don't think it matters where you come from, diction is important. I'm an audio enthusiast, I need to hear things clearly. I'm not asking for powerhouse vocals, I'm asking for passable vocals but it's like no one cares how their voice sounds now (Drake's Hotline Bling is a good example of terrible vocals yet becomes a big hit). I didn't mean silly accents in the sense that an accent in itself is silly, I mean some artists deliberately put on a voice that isn't theirs and it sounds bad. Laughter can sound terrible in a song (Anaconda being the prime example) and it can ruin a song. And of course songs don't have to have words, then they're not songs, they're instrumentals. It's not being narrow-minded, it's just personal taste. Some sounds work for our ears, others don't. Thing is, if a song is made for the world at large, it should be understandable. That's why a lot of localised language songs never make it outside their own country as they wouldn't sell as no one could understand. It's not being narrow minded, it's being unable to understand words! Why is it only seen as ignorant when English speakers say this and not when non-English speakers say it? I didn't say English was a "proper" language, just that if a song is in English, it should be understandable to English speakers. Believe me, I know all about the downsides of defining forms of English as "proper." You're speaking to a Scottish person - a lot of our tv programmes are subtitled in English when they're broadcast in the rest of the UK, despite us speaking the same language. When English people come up here, some can't understand us. Even in Scotland, we're discouraged from using our local way of speaking in educational establishments or in any official proceedings because it's seen as an informal, slang language. It's not about being narrow-minded, it's about ensuring that everyone is understood, especially if you're conversing with a non-English speaker. I remember being in a university lecture and thinking it wrong that a lecturer kept pronouncing "Earth" like the Scottish way - "Irth." This is a university filled with international students - you've got to make sure your way of speaking is completely correct, so there's nothing lost in translation. It's called being manners and courtesy. I'm not offended if someone doesn't understand my Scottish as it's not widely known, so why should anyone else concerning their little known, local language either? Not everything is a racial issue. If Rihanna is putting her music out to an international audience, it's important that she sings in an understandable way. You can still sing Caribbean tinged music but be understandable. I like Pon De Replay, Man Down and No Love Allowed. Cool beats and understandable, interesting lyrics. But Work has a boring beat, a non-understandable chorus and has uninteresting lyrics. In my opinion. It's that simple. I've actually been trying to get into reggae music recently but I only want to hear the stuff I can understand without a lyric video and won't need a translation in front of me everytime I want to sing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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