Hollywood White WASHES Japanese Anime in movie adaptation

[Mr Ricky 9,056]

2 minutes ago, Himeros26 said:

So make it white or it's not right. Yeah. Makes total sense. That's not racist AT ALL. 

Make it white, or it's not right? I never said that white people would make everything right. It's the fact that they are using a famous cast and getting money profits from it. You are being narrow-minded about this subject now. Since now everything is racist to you (which doesn't even make sense to what I have posted, if you read without taking quick actions to call out something racist) , when people are here discussing about the subject. I'm talking about them wanting profit over their own production. And they need famous celebs in order to give it a good start.

[Mr Ricky 9,056]

2 minutes ago, Lance said:

The "tHeY aLL l00K wHiTeE xDDDDD" tards.

 

This is unnecessary and you are basically just being rude right now. Discuss like an adult, and stop acting like a damn child. 

[elijahfan 26,305]

4 minutes ago, Edonis said:

But there should be a respect for other cultures. I agree that Hollywood doesn't care, sadly, but try to be the exception. Just because everyone does it doesn't mean Scarlet has to as well. Stand up for a change. 

Hollywood has nothing to win by taking a chance. The industry will change when audiences start being interested in other cultures. And it is a shame really, but the reality of it all is most Americans that go see blockbusters don't even know where to put Japan on a map - so how in the hell do you want them to be interested in a diverse cast........

It is a shame, I agree. But it is also the result of decades of America "protecting" its culture from outside influence. We are still seeing the effects of America's racist history.

[AJH219 4,448]

16 minutes ago, Himeros26 said:

I really can't stand the amount of All Lives Matter people on Gagadaily, lmao. A damn mess. 

Why are you shocked? The collective intelligence level of most of these members corresponds to their age. None of them truly have an ability to critically examine why this is a bad thing. All they see is what's on the surface. That's what is wrong with today's world. They're victims of the patriarchy and social construction. For them, everything is justifiable, no matter how wrong it truly is. I can't necessarily blame them, however. It took me until relatively recently to see just how much influence the dominant culture influences literally everything. They've just been so conditioned to think otherwise. 

[SKANK 14,288]

Isn't it fitting that the people in this thread who think they are fighting social injustice are the ones dismissing other people's opinions by suggesting they are All Live Matters protesters, or by using slurs like tard, which is an offensive slur against the intellectually disabled? It feels fitting.

 

 

[Gardevoir 9,823]

22 minutes ago, Edonis said:

This thread 

Here's why this is bad: the character Scarlett is portraying is supposed to be of Japanese origin. The story takes place in Asia and the character has a Japanese name. The story itself is very diverse and there are characters of different races present, so the issue is why they didn't cast the characters that are similar to their anime counterpart (Japanese character to Japanese/Asian actress, white character to a white actress).

Furthermore, a bunch of people are saying that the character herself doesn't look Asian. If you don't watch anime on the regular, then it is relatively difficult to tell Asian from non-Asian characters, but, to Japanese audiences and anime fans there are slight differences. Skin tone, eye shape and color (depending on the realistic attributes the team chooses to follow), etc. all contribute to the race of the character. Yes, anime characters tend to have wide eyes, different colors and features that may differ from natural counterparts in Japan, but, Ghost in the Shell is different. It is much more realistic in terms design, etc. than other anime programs. 

Sorry for the rant. It's sad. 

Now I see the point, but about bolded part, I'm anime fan and I usually don't see the diferrence, unless presented character is (for instance) Arturia Pendragon, King of the Knights and is presented that way since the beginning.

[KingRedd 3,139]

For those who don't understand picture it like this. If their was a film to made about Gaga and the casting director hired a Latina or an African American, we would all say "why not use what looks the best and honors the characters orgins" lol simple as that. 

[Kulture Kiari 3,433]

Fans of the anime have been angry since the very beginning:

But they have a right to be because I can see this as another Avatar (anime) mistake. But Hollywood seems to never learn and only try to see white actors as the perfect candidates for anything. 

[MJHolland 12,725]

24 minutes ago, Lance said:

Oh. You again.

So were YOU the casting manager? did you see all the other actresses that wanted to get a part in the movie? how do you know ScarJo is the most qualified? elaborate. And, yes, race is a huge topic of discussion. Usually minorities like yourself wont understand **** because yall are full of ignorance.

 

You do realize that same logic could be applied to your side of the argument, right? Lol...

23 minutes ago, Edonis said:

The effing character is Japanese. They made a Japanese character with a Japanese name who speaks in Japanese, into an white American lady. And there was no audition, Scarlet liked the series and decided to try to make it a film. She shouldn't have played the lead role. 

And Spriderman is a role written for a white male. So was the Human Torch in the Fantastic 4 and they made both of those black (even though the human torch has a white sister....) and you all applauded that. Who the role was originally written for doesn't matter. The best actor/actress should get it regardless of race.

 

25 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

Right. And I mean, the whole point of those remakes is to Americanize and white-wash a project that already exists, and it has been so for decades.... And surprisingly, it is only now that people get mad because "whitewashing" and "cultural appropriation" are hot topics in 2016.... PEOPLE, this has been going on for decades.

If people want diversity, why aren't they watching the original projects with subtitles? Know what I mean.... To adapt the market and see it change, you have to adapt the demand. Hollywood is solely bringing on screen what people want to see.

There's actual injustice in this world. "Cultural appropriation" hurts no one, and it promotes globalization which promotes understanding and thus tolerance. Move on.

[Alien Tulip 12,428]

Just now, KingRedd said:

For those who don't understand picture it like this. If their was a film to made about Gaga and the casting director hired a Latina or an African American, we would all say "why not use what looks the best and honors the characters orgins" lol simple as that. 

Well...I know a lot of latinas that have mediterranean features like Gaga so that could work. There's actually some latinas that look more like Gaga than a typical white girl like Jennifer lawrence. 

[codymonster 8,595]

27 minutes ago, Quasi said:

It wouldn't matter if the character "looked" Japanese. Hollywood would still cast a white lead. 

And just cause the character doesn't look Asian doesn't mean that you should automatically cast a white person. The look isn't the end all be all. The fact that it's a Japanese anime set in Asia is indication enough that maybe someone Japanese should be set to play the role. And nobody should say "Oh if an Asian actress was good enough, they would have put her in" cause Hollywood doesn't even give Asian entertainers the time of day, let alone the lead role in a major movie. 

Ya, that may be true too! I was just pointing out that if I didn't know the character, and just saw a picture, I would say a white person would play them. My point was that if maybe Japanese people were portrayed more accurately, rather than being "westernized" in anime, that might HELP the issue; not fix, but help!

But I get your point and agree to some extent as well!

[Edonis 28,950]

Just now, Emigrante said:

Now I see the point, but about bolded part, I'm anime fan and I usually don't see the diferrence, unless presented character is (for instance) Arturia Pendragon, King of the Knights and is presented that way since the beginning.

It usually is more prevalent in anime where there are characters of different racial backgrounds. For example, Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle and xxxHOLIC are two sister crossover series created by CLAMP. Long story short, one series involves dimension jumping, etc. and the other is a supernatural series that takes place in modern day Japan. The characters that are considered Japanese have the typical physical traits of Japanese people (dark hair, eyes, paler skin compared to other Asians) but characters considered "white" have fairer hair, freckles, more diverse eye colors, etc. 

You have to look in other series to find it haha. But it is there. 

[SISTERV 3,887]

It's an adaption. 

Why is white washing even a thing? 

If Spain made a version with an all Latino cast would you call it Latin washing? 

The fans should be thankful their story is getting a major adaption out of this.

I do, however, agree that Asian Americans are under represented in film and music, (I won't say dance because that ABDC show on MTV had a ton of Asian-American groups), but I just feel like an adaption of a film should not matter about races. It should matter that they stay true to the story.

We're people upset when Brandy and Whitney Houston played Cinderella and the Fairy Godmother in the Roger and Hammerstein adaption? It's a French story. 

Were people mad when The Wiz was a primarily black spin on a story about a girl from KANSAS in the country?

No. Why? Because it's another cultural group putting their spin on a timeless classic, which actually made these stories' legacies more widespread.

There is nothing wrong with a director hiring Caucasian people to put a spin on an Asian story the same way there is nothing wrong with an African-American putting a spin on a French story. 

There are bigger problems in the world, and if anything, this will introduce a story that never would be huge in middle America to a whole new audience. I see this as a good thing. 

I hope you are this upset when Godzilla 2 comes out, or the Ghostbusters remake, or when Hermione (who has been imagined as white in literally every country's version of the cover art, the films, the merchandise) is played by a British black woman this summer in the play, or whenever a white person turns a hip hip song into a pop cover on youtube. Because according to your logic every adaption/version/remake of a film should be the same exact "type" of person in every role ever. 

 

[SissyFromSpace 20,884]

8 minutes ago, Rachel Duncan said:

This is unnecessary and you are basically just being rude right now. Discuss like an adult, and stop acting like a damn child. 

Love how you finally quote my post once I edited it. And please don't tell me to "discuss like an adult" when you're posting these annoying gifs in all your posts.  You're obviously not an avid anime watcher nor aren't you educated in any form of mainstream Japanese pop culture. I'm not going to argue with an ignorant "hahaha the asians look white xD" posts when you, among many others, are not avid anime watchers or open minded to the topic of anime at all. 

 

4 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

You do realize that same logic could be applied to your side of the argument, right? Lol...

No it does not. But attempting to have an open minded debate with a conservative seems very illogical so there's no point even trying it with you. 

[elijahfan 26,305]

4 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

There's actual injustice in this world. "Cultural appropriation" hurts no one, and it promotes globalization which promotes understanding and thus tolerance. Move on.

MARRY ME TBH

So refreshing to finally see someone say this.