Trump DEFENDS Bernie!!!!!

[MJHolland 12,725]

Just now, LebaneseDude said:

Hardly talking down to you. I don't know your credentials, and your posts suggest you lack a basic understanding of super delegates.

I don't care if you worked at the DNC. How is that supposed to matter if you are still misinterpreting things?

They're undemocratic in nature and it's funny you'd try to imply otherwise. Maybe not right now, but they are unfair in nature. Her husband is a super delegate for christ's sake.

This is why millennials hate Clinton. They see right through her show. Weird that you can't...

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

16 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

Yeah because it's totally funny to joke about a terror plot that the SoS and her office were totally ignorant to that ended up killing multiple American hero and an American Ambassador and then our embassy was captured. Oh, and then the SoS lied to the American public and said that it wasn't a terror plot to make the administration look like it wasn't totally ignorant to a terror plot on 9/11's anniversary, while she was simultaneously emailing her daughter (which she deleted but the Benghazi panel recovered, evidently) that the attack was in fact a premeditated plot and not a spur of the moment thing.

Yes, so so funny.

Who is joking about the death of people? The joke was in regards to Hillary being composed when being barraged by a slew of idiotic probes prepared by a desperate panel. They've been entirely discredited. Quit using that as proof of anything it's shamefully hilarious.

Also it's hilarious that you're saying that the office is the one who killed them. They were killed by terrorists because of problems regarding safety procedures. Beghazi was simply a high risk environment, which US diplomats and officials very often frequent, and there was a lapse in judgement in this specific case, one that Hillary has owned up to.

It's funny how you focus on this particular issue, and fail to realize that the system works almost every time. You only bitch about someone's performance when they mess up once right? It's amazing US diplomats and foreign officials don't die more often, considering they're the most active ones across the globe in high security threat locations.

There's an entire world of difference between what you're implying and what the truth is. Stop trying to spin things to suit your needs.

The rest of your post is all controversy. Don't talk about facts when there are none, especially when they were all shot down at the panel. For someone who talks about "undemocratic", you sure have a "Guilty until proven innocent" thing going on.

 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

6 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

They're undemocratic in nature and it's funny you'd try to imply otherwise. Maybe not right now, but they are unfair in nature. Her husband is a super delegate for christ's sake.

This is why millennials hate Clinton. They see right through her show. Weird that you can't...

They hate her because the GOP bandwagon has been highly successful at smearing her. Just look at your own posts. They're as pathetically ignorant. I know you're smarter than that. I would hope so.

Also you can't speak about "undemocratic" procedures when caucuses exist. You also can't speak about "undemocratic" procedures when said procedures have never been in support of a candidate who did not have the popular vote via democracy.

That safeguards exist does not diminish the democratic quality of a process. Learn your history.

[MJHolland 12,725]

1 minute ago, LebaneseDude said:

Who is joking about the death of people?

Also it's hilarious that you're saying that the office is the one who killed them. They were killed because of problems regarding safety procedures. Beghazi was simply a high risk environment, which US diplomats and officials very often frequent, and there was a lapse in judgement in this specific case.

It's funny how you focus on this particular issue, and fail to realize that the system works almost every time. You only bitch about someone's performance when they mess up once right? It's amazing US diplomats and foreign officials don't die more often, considering they're the most active ones across the globe in high security threat locations.

There's an entire world of difference between what you're implying and what the truth is. Stop trying to spin things to suit your needs.

The rest of your post is all controversy. Don't talk about facts when there are none.

 

You realize that the Ambassador ask Clinton specifically to upgrade the security on the compound days before the attack and she personally denied him, right? That American died because of Hillary Clinton's incompetence, I do not understand how you don't understand that. 

Like do you understand what happened at Benghazi? They weren't just killed. These people tortured, raped, and then killed them, and then their corpses were raped. This all happened as a direct result of Hillary Clinton and her administrations incompetence, and you want her to be the leader of the free world. Good.

A news clipping from the time: 

"Two months before the fatal 2012 terrorist attack on the U.S. compound in Benghazi, then-Ambassador Chris Stevens requested 13 security personnel to help him safely travel around Libya, according to a cable reviewed by Fox News -- but he was turned down. 

In the July 9, 2012 cable, Stevens reported that, "Overall security conditions continue to be unpredictable, with large numbers of armed groups and individuals not under control of the central government, and frequent clashes in Tripoli and other major population centers." The cable said 13 security personnel would be the "minimum" needed for "transportation security and incident response capability." 

But a congressional source said Patrick Kennedy, a deputy to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, turned down the request. "

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15 hours ago, LebaneseDude said:

Are Hillary supporters and the 2.5 million additional voters for Hillary not part of the world now?

While I'm sure it's because he thinks that Bernie is easier to beat, he's also doing it to sow dissent among Democratic voters. I love it when Bernie bots are believing what the GOP has to say about them now hahaha

"Trump's policies are xenophobic, sexist, bigoted, and racist, but he just defended Bernie so he has good judgement. Trump doesn't have a history of fabricating lies. Nope not at all"

Pick your allies people this is getting sad

Just look at how fast they turned on cher  

[MJHolland 12,725]

8 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

They hate her because the GOP bandwagon has been highly successful at smearing her. Just look at your own posts. They're as pathetically ignorant. I know you're smarter than that. I would hope so.

I'm going to cut you some slack because I know you haven't lived your whole life in America, but Hillary Clinton has done a fine job smearing the Clinton name.

She's spent over a decade in public service and still does not have one accomplishment. She was a failed secretary of state. She voted for the Iraq war without actual evidence that Iraq's government perpetrated the 9/11 attack BECAUSE the idea of scapegoating Iraq was very, very popular in her state of New York because obviously that's where the attacks were most devastating. 

But yes, it's been republicans that have tarnished her name, not that she's an incompetent power hungry politician.

You will literally make any excuse for her, it's sad buddy.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

5 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

You realize that the Ambassador ask Clinton specifically to upgrade the security on the compound days before the attack and she personally denied him, right? That American died because of Hillary Clinton's incompetence, I do not understand how you don't understand that. 

Like do you understand what happened at Benghazi? They weren't just killed. These people tortured, raped, and then killed them, and then their corpses were raped. This all happened as a direct result of Hillary Clinton and her administrations incompetence, and you want her to be the leader of the free world. Good.

A news clipping from the time: 

"Two months before the fatal 2012 terrorist attack on the U.S. compound in Benghazi, then-Ambassador Chris Stevens requested 13 security personnel to help him safely travel around Libya, according to a cable reviewed by Fox News -- but he was turned down. 

In the July 9, 2012 cable, Stevens reported that, "Overall security conditions continue to be unpredictable, with large numbers of armed groups and individuals not under control of the central government, and frequent clashes in Tripoli and other major population centers." The cable said 13 security personnel would be the "minimum" needed for "transportation security and incident response capability." 

But a congressional source said Patrick Kennedy, a deputy to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, turned down the request. "

There were reasons why he was denied. That's the entire point. There are a LOT of US foreign diplomats, and Benghazi was as high risk as any of them. Also it's funny that you think it only takes a few days to upgrade the security of the compound. The request was issued too late with too little proof of urgency. Friendly reminder that US diplomats are almost always under "high security threats". It's part of the job.

The details of the event are irrelevant. A tragedy is a tragedy. Don't attempt to upscale the blame into something it is not. 

What's especially disturbing is that YOU are the one who is using this one isolated incident in her entire career to attempt to generalize her performance as SoS. How does that saying go? People don't bitch about something until something goes wrong. Who cares that all other US officials are safe with their families. She messed up once. She's bad.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

1 minute ago, MJHolland said:

I'm going to cut you some slack because I know you haven't lived your whole life in America, but Hillary Clinton has done a fine job smearing the Clinton name.

She's spent over a decade in public service and still does not have one accomplishment. She was a failed secretary of state. She voted for the Iraq war without actual evidence that Iraq's government perpetrated the 9/11 attack BECAUSE the idea of scapegoating Iraq was very, very popular in her state of New York because obviously that's where the attacks were most devastating. 

But yes, it's been republicans that have tarnished her name, not that she's an incompetent power hungry politician.

You will literally make any excuse for her, it's sad buddy.

I had an entire post regarding her accomplishments. Her public service record extends for more than 40 years. 

I'm not going to try to convince you, but your posts have no merit, especially when I've only seen four (and only four) complaints about Clinton.

1) She's married to Bill Clinton (lol), so she gets blame for his actions via transitivity.

2) She's a corporate-owned bitch. Funny enough, none of her works have been oriented towards corporations. Most of her work has been in the human rights department.

3) She's a warmonger. Right...supporting the investigations for Iraq WMDs is warmongering. Also supporting Israel as if they're the big bad boogieman. I don't need to hear that stuff from Americans when I hear it from Hezbollah.

4) Benghazi. What a bitch. 

Meanwhile you choose to ignore almost everything else. I mean...I don't expect much different. You support Republican candidates rather than Democratic ones because you place the value of economic gain ahead of human and social rights issues. Hillary has spent the majority of her career dealing with the latter, so no surprise you view her record as meaningless

[MJHolland 12,725]

4 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

There were reasons why he was denied. That's the entire point. There are a LOT of US foreign diplomats, and Benghazi was as high risk as any of them. Also it's funny that you think it only takes a few days to upgrade the security of the compound. The request was issued too late with too little proof of urgency. Friendly reminder that US diplomats are almost always under "high security threats". It's part of the job.

The details of the event are irrelevant. A tragedy is a tragedy. Don't attempt to upscale the blame into something it is not. 

What's especially disturbing is that YOU are the one who is using this one isolated incident in her entire career to attempt to generalize her performance as SoS. How does that saying go? People don't bitch about something until something goes wrong. Who cares that all other US officials are safe with their families. She messed up once. She's bad.

Trust me, I know that details do not interest you lol.... 

But alright, if I can point to an actual tangible failure of the SoS (because it was certainly not a good thing), can you even name a single event that paints her time as SoS in a good light? Like off the top of your head without googling it, what was her crowning achievement as SoS? She did the job for 4 f*cking years, she should have something to show for it right?

Spoiler

No no she doesn't that why she resigned in shame thats right

 

[MJHolland 12,725]

Just now, LebaneseDude said:

I had an entire post regarding her accomplishments. Her public service record extends for more than 40 years. 

I'm not going to try to convince you, but your posts have no merit, especially when I've only seen four (and only four) complaints about Clinton.

1) She's married to Bill Clinton (lol), so she gets blame for his actions via transitivity.

2) She's a corporate-owned bitch. Funny enough, none of her works have been oriented towards corporations. Most of her work has been in the human rights department.

3) She's a warmonger. Right...supporting the investigations for Iraq WMDs is warmongering. Also supporting Israel as if they're the big bad boogieman. I don't need to hear that stuff from Americans when I hear it from Hezbollah.

4) Benghazi. What a bitch. 

Meanwhile you choose to ignore almost everything else. I mean...I don't expect much different. You support Republican candidates rather than Democratic ones because you place the value of economic gain ahead of human and social rights issues. Hillary has spent the majority of her career dealing with the latter, so no surprise you view her record as meaningless

Don't @ me again. Talking to a Clinton supporter is like talking to a brick wall or trying to convince a priest God doesn't exist. If you can't see how wrong you are by now, there's no hope for you in the future.

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13 hours ago, MJHolland said:

They were created because party leaders didn't like Carter. They're undemocratic in nature.

 

The Democratic Party created its firewall of ex-officio delegates as a hedge against the kind of electoral disaster the party suffered in 1972 when candidate George McGovern lost in a landslide. 

I thought you "knew it all", as a "DNC former employee". Lol

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

Just now, MJHolland said:

Trust me, I know that details do not interest you lol.... 

But alright, if I can point to an actual tangible failure of the SoS (because it was certainly not a good thing), can you even name a single event that paints her time as SoS in a good light? Like off the top of your head without googling it, what was her crowning achievement as SoS? She did the job for 4 f*cking years, she should have something to show for it right?

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No no she doesn't that why she resigned in shame thats right

 

Probably a little too general, but visiting over 115 countries and extending US moral principles via conferences and executive actions to other countries throughout her tenure? 

It seems you don't know what a SoS is supposed to do...

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

1 minute ago, MJHolland said:

Don't @ me again. Talking to a Clinton supporter is like talking to a brick wall or trying to convince a priest God doesn't exist. If you can't see how wrong you are by now, there's no hope for you in the future.

You know that you haven't presented a single tangible fact throughout our discussion right?

I'm trying my best to discuss the matter with you despite that. Clearly I'm wrong to you, since your entire stance is based on opinions and God knows those are never going to change when it comes to you 

You're the one that @ me first. You should know better 

[MJHolland 12,725]

Just now, LebaneseDude said:

Probably a little too general, but visiting over 115 countries and extending US moral principles via conferences and executive actions to other countries throughout her tenure? 

It seems you don't know what a SoS is supposed to do...

No, that's her responsibility as SoS, not a unique accomplishment lol... 

 

1 minute ago, Whispering said:

The Democratic Party created its firewall of “ex-officio delegates” as a hedge against the kind of electoral disaster the party suffered in 1972 when candidate George McGovern lost in a landslide.

I thought you "knew it all", as a "DNC former employee". Lol

 

Alright Clintonites, you can stop @ ing me and continue to drink the koolaide. And Whispering, it's nice to talk to you bro.

[Whispering 18,865]

Just now, LebaneseDude said:

Probably a little too general, but visiting over 115 countries and extending US moral principles via conferences and executive actions to other countries throughout her tenure? 

It seems you don't know what a SoS is supposed to do...

Don't @ him again....you present good arguments and he can't handle that. His only resort his to tell you not to quote him again. Lol