Trump DEFENDS Bernie!!!!!

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

2 minutes ago, PartySick said:

A broken clock is right twice a day, I guess

I still have trouble understanding our elections tbh. What's this nonsense about popular vote not mattering? What's the point of voting if a few suits are just going to choose the president anyway? I'm genuinely confused at this point.

Where are you getting this information from?

Superdelegates traditionally support the nominee who has more votes and performs better in swing states.

These are the swing states: Nevada, Colorado, Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida.

If Bernie performs better in all of these states, the odds are the superdelegates will switch sides to support him. They are pledged, not promised.

The "few suits" don't decide who becomes president. They simply add their votes to the current winner. They have never supported someone who has had less of the popular vote. In fact their existence is to prevent that.

[SISTERV 3,887]

6 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

He's not proven. He's all talk. If he wins I'm looking forward to see him action, but this "proven" nonsense needs to go away.

Also stop mincing your arguments. Donations have nothing to do with superdelegates. 

And no I'm not saying anything about Bernie supporters. I'm saying most are part of the younger generation who have not committed to a particular side. If you think otherwise then I suggest you google statistics cause God knows I'm not spending my time here trying to point out the obvious case.

Also I fail to see where I talked about Bernie supporters' intelligence.

You see things that don't exist, much like Trump who you still obviously have a boner for.

All talk?

BERNIE IS BY FAR MORE HONEST THAN HILLARY.

Are you actually serious?

The internet is scourged with evidence of Hillary going back and forth on tons of issues. One minute she's a moderate, the next she is progressive. She's changed her image more than GAGA+ MADONNA combined. LMFAO

[PartySick 172,545]

Just now, LebaneseDude said:

Where are you getting this information from?

Superdelegates traditionally support the nominee who has more votes and performs better in swing states.

These are the swing states: Nevada, Colorado, Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida.

If Bernie performs better, odds are the superdelegates will switch side.

The "few suits" don't decide who becomes president. They simply add their votes to the current winner.

But do the superdelegates have to switch sides? 'Cause "odds are they'll switch sides" isn't too reassuring.

Also, I could do without the aggressive tone, sis  I am not the enemy, just someone with a question about the intricacies of the U.S. electoral system 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

9 minutes ago, SISTERV said:

No it's not! A HUGE number if states Hillary won are RED states in the south. Bernie didn't win these states. 

Stop making **** up. I've literally posted on here tons of articles that have shown why Hillary isn't hitting purple states like Michigan, but scoring easy in the south. 

 

You're confused in your analysis... 

It's not which of them wins the states, it's how much more they win against Republicans...

Hillary and Bernie aren't running against each other for president. They're running for the democratic nomination. It doesn't matter if Bernie beats Clinton. Supporters of Bernie are "expected" to vote Democratic anyway. That's how this whole thing works lmao. That's why you deal with delegates and not popular votes... my God...

Hillary has had more voters than Republicans in swing states. That's all there is to it. The point of these is to see how many more voters and in what states against Republicans support which candidate.

You're funny. All Hillary needs to do at this point is dominate New York and she's set. If Bernie loses New York, he's done.

[SISTERV 3,887]

1 minute ago, PartySick said:

But do the superdelegates have to switch sides? 'Cause "odds are they'll switch sides" isn't too reassuring.

Also, I could do without the aggressive tone, sis  I am not the enemy, just someone with a question about the intricacies of the U.S. electoral system 

They're just mad because Bernie and Trump supporters have a legitimate reason to be upset, and it happens to disagree with their narrative. 

It's total bullshit that Colorado isn't having an election. What's the point in THE PEOPLE voting if 25 guys in suits can vote against their constituents?

Stupid rules. That's not democracy.

And they wonder why people don't believe their vote really counts. 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

5 minutes ago, PartySick said:

But do the superdelegates have to switch sides? 'Cause "odds are they'll switch sides" isn't too reassuring.

Also, I could do without the aggressive tone, sis  I am not the enemy, just someone with a question about the intricacies of the U.S. electoral system 

They will. They switched to Obama when he was winning the swing states. They have to. They're there for the DNC not the candidates. Of course there are optics in play. If the candidates manage to maintain a tight race, it's up to their discretion.

Also where was I aggressive? "Where did you get your information from?" is inquisitive not accusatory. Chill.

[SISTERV 3,887]

3 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

You're confused in your analysis... 

It's not which of them wins the states, it's how much more they win against Republicans...

Hillary and Bernie aren't running against each other for president. They're running for the democratic nomination. It doesn't matter if Bernie beats Clinton. Supporters of Bernie are "expected" to vote Democratic anyway. That's how this whole thing works lmao. That's why you deal with delegates and not popular votes... my God...

Hillary has had more voters than Republicans in swing states. That's all there is to it. The point of these is to see how many more voters and in what states against Republicans support which candidate.

You're funny  

Yeah. Well idc how people are "expected" to vote. It's the right of the American people to be able to vote no matter what belief. 

And I wouldn't assume those Bernie supporters would just vote democrat. Alot of those people support Bernie for other reasons than the fact he is running as a democrat.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

2 minutes ago, SISTERV said:

They're just mad because Bernie and Trump supporters have a legitimate reason to be upset, and it happens to disagree with their narrative. 

It's total bullshit that Colorado isn't having an election. What's the point in THE PEOPLE voting if 25 guys in suits can vote against their constituents?

Stupid rules. That's not democracy.

And they wonder why people don't believe their vote really counts. 

LOL stop talking about "democracy" when caucuses exist.

If you wanted "DEMOCRACY" then all of these contests would have been primaries. Guess who has won most of them? 

Picking and choosing as always.

[SISTERV 3,887]

2 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

They will. They switched to Obama when he was winning the swing states. They have to. They're there for the DNC not the candidates. Of course there are optics in play. If the candidates manage to maintain a tight race, it's up to their discretion.

Also where was I aggressive? "Where did you get your information from?" is inquisitive not accusatory. Chill.

You are being aggressive by your attitude. 

Maybe we the people don't agree with these stupid rules. Made by a few people in a room who want their establishment candidate to win.

**** the rules.

This is a DEMOCRACY.

Not an oligarchy! 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

5 minutes ago, SISTERV said:

Yeah. Well idc how people are "expected" to vote. It's the right of the American people to be able to vote no matter what belief. 

And I wouldn't assume those Bernie supporters would just vote democrat. Alot of those people support Bernie for other reasons than the fact he is running as a democrat.

If Bernie supporters don't vote for the Democratic nominee, then they have mental health issues they need to resolve. The most important part of this election aren't the policies these candidates promise. It's their capacity to switch the Congress to the Democratic side so we can get **** done anyway and appoint SCOTUS judges that will support progressive policies that Republican judges have been blocking for so long.

Even independents who support democratic values but hate the establishment should be well aware that the Republican policies run counter to many of their beliefs. 

That many fail to see this goes to show how shortsighted most young people are. There's more at stake here than sending a message. Not voting for the Democratic nominee is functionally equivalent to voting for the Republicans.

[SISTERV 3,887]

3 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

LOL stop talking about "democracy" when caucuses exist.

If you wanted "DEMOCRACY" then all of these contests would have been primaries. Guess who has won most of them? 

Picking and choosing as always.

If this was screwing over Hillary, you'd have a problem.

Everyone knows these rules are dumb and are built to support the special interests of the establishment. Total crap. 

And btw....I'd quit assuming Trump can't beat Hillary because more and more polls are showing he can. Don't underestimate him.

 

[PartySick 172,545]

2 minutes ago, SISTERV said:

It's total bullshit that Colorado isn't having an election. What's the point in THE PEOPLE voting if 25 guys in suits can vote against their constituents?

Stupid rules. That's not democracy.

And they wonder why people don't believe their vote really counts. 

Whaaat? I stop following this circus for a week or so and an entire state's voice isn't being heard?  nnnn...I need to do some studying tbh. This whole thing seems like it should be so simple but it's not. I guess that's why I've always just paid attention to the candidates and their stances/policies and not the system itself

5 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

They will. They switched to Obama when he was winning the swing states. They have to. They're there for the DNC not the candidates.

Also where was I aggressive? "Where did you get your information from?" is inquisitive not accusatory. Chill.

I should hope so...

and sorry, I assumed that was lashing out judging from previous replies :sweat:

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

1 minute ago, SISTERV said:

If this was screwing over Hillary, you'd have a problem.

Everyone knows these rules are dumb and are built to support the special interests of the establishment. Total crap. 

And btw....I'd quit assuming Trump can't beat Hillary because more and more polls are showing he can. Don't underestimate him.

 

Please google "caucuses" to understand how undemocratic they are before talking about Hillary.

Also stop assuming I hold some bias for Hillary. I merely prefer her stances, policies, and persona. If that's something you can't understand then it's your failing not mine.

[SISTERV 3,887]

1 minute ago, PartySick said:

Whaaat? I stop following this circus for a week or so and an entire state's voice isn't being heard?  nnnn...I need to do some studying tbh. This whole thing seems like it should be so simple but it's not. I guess that's why I've always just paid attention to the candidates and their stances/policies and not the system itself

 

Yes....the entire state of Colorado told their citizens today that they aren't holding a primary and the Delegates are just being given to Ted Cruz. 

I don't understand how someone could justify that as OK and still call this a democracy???

[Morphine Prince 109,683]

38 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

Are Hillary supporters and the 2.5 million additional voters for Hillary not part of the world now?

While I'm sure it's because he thinks that Bernie is easier to beat, he's also doing it to sow dissent among Democratic voters. I love it when Bernie bots are believing what the GOP has to say about them now hahaha

"Trump's policies are xenophobic, sexist, bigoted, and racist, but he just defended Bernie so he has good judgement. Trump doesn't have a history of fabricating lies. Nope not at all"

Pick your allies people this is getting sad

Your first statement.... everyone knows what I meant, don't play dumb.

The Bernie supporters who believe Trump is honest..... need help.