Why so many Beyonce haters on here?

[Roomingfree77 244]

Bottom line.. this is a tough league to be married in and I sure like the way that Swifty plays short in her place

[MaryJaneHolland 77,348]

On 4/9/2016 at 0:29 AM, JaneTheC said:

This is true thou

so you say beyonce shouldnt be compared to god, and gaga should, right?? 

no one should

[Benji 20,113]

I will never grasp how anyone can hate a popstar, especially one like Beyonce. People have too much time on their hands, I guess?

Beyonce will carry on slaying and y'all will still be pressed.

[JaneTheC 3,726]

50 minutes ago, MaryJaneHolland said:

so you say beyonce shouldnt be compared to god, and gaga should, right?? 

no one should

Yes no one should, i was just making a joke

[StrawberryBlond 14,819]

18 hours ago, Harry said:

Funny that you suddenly don't want to discuss private matters after calling me out personally as soon as I bring up something that might harm your reputation.

Talking about specific private matters should be kept just that. But an overall bad attitude deserves to be called out. Yes, I'm worried about you bringing up something that could harm my reputation as you will twist things and make out that they're worse than they are. But I think I know most people know that you're just bitter and like to be mean to people just to start an argument and feed your ego. Just because I speak my mind on issues that some people don't dare to speak about doesn't mean I'm intolerant. I'm just saying what everyone else is thinking, as evidenced by how many people liked what I originally said. I know I can say some controversial things but don't they sometimes have a kernel of truth in them?

[BuzzcutSeason 3,307]

Beyonce is like god you don't hate beyonce i can see someone being like lukewarm about beyonce but never hatred.

[Harry 26,836]

22 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Talking about specific private matters should be kept just that. But an overall bad attitude deserves to be called out. Yes, I'm worried about you bringing up something that could harm my reputation as you will twist things and make out that they're worse than they are. But I think I know most people know that you're just bitter and like to be mean to people just to start an argument and feed your ego. Just because I speak my mind on issues that some people don't dare to speak about doesn't mean I'm intolerant. I'm just saying what everyone else is thinking, as evidenced by how many people liked what I originally said. I know I can say some controversial things but don't they sometimes have a kernel of truth in them?

Not when you're being homophobic and racist they don't. I don't think trying to stand up against a bully who shamelessly promotes those things constitutes as having a 'bad attitude'! I lost any ounce of respect I had left for you when you tried to silence me for being gay.

[The Child 18,997]

20 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

And when I hear these songs, I hear smugness and self-righteousness. And the only place I can take that is in rap music.

Rap music, a genre who is mainly dominated by male artists, so that means that only males are allowed to brag about their hard work and success?

Plus, why are you only allowing this in rap music and not in pop or rnb music? 

[StrawberryBlond 14,819]

11 minutes ago, Harry said:

Not when you're being homophobic and racist they don't. I don't think trying to stand up against a bully who shamelessly promotes those things constitutes as having a 'bad attitude'! I lost any ounce of respect I had left for you when you tried to silence me for being gay.

I'm not being homophobic and racist, I'm being fair and calling out real issues that I see and other people have echoed, but they're too afraid to speak out on in public. I don't think 11 people would have liked my original post if it was so racist. Nothing will ever change if we keep quiet when there's issues upsetting people and there's unfair advantages being given. I'm not a bully, you're the one who is bullying. You can't stand it when anyone else has a different opinion. Your bad attitude is not just taken out on me but on other people here. You don't seem to be nice to anyone, even when they haven't done anything bad to you. If you don't agree with them, you start bashing them and being accusatory. And I would never silence anyone for being gay. I was just getting out some frustrations that had been building for a while and they're issues that I know face the gay community because other gays have complained about them before. So, I brought it up in case it was the cause for the tension between us. You yourself even admitted that these problems I listed were accurate, just that you weren't expressing them, which I didn't claim you were. It was just a suggestion.

6 minutes ago, CrazyMonster said:

Rap music, a genre who is mainly dominated by male artists, so that means that only males are allowed to brag about their hard work and success?

Plus, why are you only allowing this in rap music and not in pop or rnb music? 

Actually, there are a number of female rappers that I like. Lil Kim and Missy Elliott are my favourites. Iggy Azalea is slowly becoming one of my favourites and I also like an album from Foxy Brown and MC Lyte. Nicki Minaj, as problematic as she can be, is also getting better in my eyes, at least when she's making rap and not pop. I wish there were more females breaking through who were giving us some good material because lord knows the genre is in the pits right now on the male side. There was no need to jump right to that assumption, which was very presumptuous in itself, before you'd even found out what my tastes were.

I allow it in rap because it's part of the genre. "Peacocking" as it's called, it what rap is partly all about. Even more so than being "real." Even when you're the most insecure person in the world, you've still got to exude confidence and brag in your raps, even when you're clearly not like that in reality. But no other genre has this element as part of its raison d'etre, so it shouldn't start becoming the case. While there can be some ego stroking in pop, it normally involves including everyone, like California Gurls or Pretty Girls or it is just a vague, non-specific song about being great, like Uptown Funk. But songs that brag and are very specific, clearly about the artist singing it and nobody else...that's something exclusively limited to rap. Beyonce is starting to blur the boundaries and I don't like it.

[Levine 23,554]

No hate here, but she is overrated. 

[The Child 18,997]

4 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I'm not being homophobic and racist, I'm being fair and calling out real issues that I see and other people have echoed, but they're too afraid to speak out on in public. I don't think 11 people would have liked my original post if it was so racist. Nothing will ever change if we keep quiet when there's issues upsetting people and there's unfair advantages being given. I'm not a bully, you're the one who is bullying. You can't stand it when anyone else has a different opinion. Your bad attitude is not just taken out on me but on other people here. You don't seem to be nice to anyone, even when they haven't done anything bad to you. If you don't agree with them, you start bashing them and being accusatory. And I would never silence anyone for being gay. I was just getting out some frustrations that had been building for a while and they're issues that I know face the gay community because other gays have complained about them before. So, I brought it up in case it was the cause for the tension between us. You yourself even admitted that these problems I listed were accurate, just that you weren't expressing them, which I didn't claim you were. It was just a suggestion.

Actually, there are a number of female rappers that I like. Lil Kim and Missy Elliott are my favourites. Iggy Azalea is slowly becoming one of my favourites and I also like an album from Foxy Brown and MC Lyte. Nicki Minaj, as problematic as she can be, is also getting better in my eyes, at least when she's making rap and not pop. I wish there were more females breaking through who were giving us some good material because lord knows the genre is in the pits right now on the male side. There was no need to jump right to that assumption, which was very presumptuous in itself, before you'd even found out what my tastes were.

I allow it in rap because it's part of the genre. "Peacocking" as it's called, it what rap is partly all about. Even more so than being "real." Even when you're the most insecure person in the world, you've still got to exude confidence and brag in your raps, even when you're clearly not like that in reality. But no other genre has this element as part of its raison d'etre, so it shouldn't start becoming the case. While there can be some ego stroking in pop, it normally involves including everyone, like California Gurls or Pretty Girls or it is just a vague, non-specific song about being great, like Uptown Funk. But songs that brag and are very specific, clearly about the artist singing it and nobody else...that's something exclusively limited to rap. Beyonce is starting to blur the boundaries and I don't like it.

Well I liked your answer to me, but if you don't like the fact that she's blurring the boundaries, it's your taste. I can't force you to think like I think. At least you stayed polite and shared your point of view really nicely with me.

[Benji 20,113]

52 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Talking about specific private matters should be kept just that. But an overall bad attitude deserves to be called out. Yes, I'm worried about you bringing up something that could harm my reputation as you will twist things and make out that they're worse than they are. But I think I know most people know that you're just bitter and like to be mean to people just to start an argument and feed your ego. Just because I speak my mind on issues that some people don't dare to speak about doesn't mean I'm intolerant. I'm just saying what everyone else is thinking, as evidenced by how many people liked what I originally said. I know I can say some controversial things but don't they sometimes have a kernel of truth in them?

4 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I'm not being homophobic and racist, I'm being fair and calling out real issues that I see and other people have echoed, but they're too afraid to speak out on in public. I don't think 11 people would have liked my original post if it was so racist. Nothing will ever change if we keep quiet when there's issues upsetting people and there's unfair advantages being given. I'm not a bully, you're the one who is bullying. You can't stand it when anyone else has a different opinion. Your bad attitude is not just taken out on me but on other people here. You don't seem to be nice to anyone, even when they haven't done anything bad to you. If you don't agree with them, you start bashing them and being accusatory. And I would never silence anyone for being gay. I was just getting out some frustrations that had been building for a while and they're issues that I know face the gay community because other gays have complained about them before. So, I brought it up in case it was the cause for the tension between us. You yourself even admitted that these problems I listed were accurate, just that you weren't expressing them, which I didn't claim you were. It was just a suggestion.

You can't speak for "most" people. I personally think you should both just block each other because whenever you both start arguing, you both look pretty bad. Harry makes it somewhat personal, even if I do agree with some of his points about your posts and you continue to go on often long rants that have personal jabs and ignorant points hidden.

Just block each other or f*ck. You're both getting boring with this beef.

[Harry 26,836]

25 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I'm not being homophobic and racist, I'm being fair and calling out real issues that I see and other people have echoed, but they're too afraid to speak out on in public. I don't think 11 people would have liked my original post if it was so racist. Nothing will ever change if we keep quiet when there's issues upsetting people and there's unfair advantages being given. I'm not a bully, you're the one who is bullying. You can't stand it when anyone else has a different opinion. Your bad attitude is not just taken out on me but on other people here. You don't seem to be nice to anyone, even when they haven't done anything bad to you. If you don't agree with them, you start bashing them and being accusatory. And I would never silence anyone for being gay. I was just getting out some frustrations that had been building for a while and they're issues that I know face the gay community because other gays have complained about them before. So, I brought it up in case it was the cause for the tension between us. You yourself even admitted that these problems I listed were accurate, just that you weren't expressing them, which I didn't claim you were. It was just a suggestion.

Yes you are a bully. You call me names and dismiss everything I have to say because I'm a gay man and then you constantly hound me in threads, just like right now. Let me be who I am!

I don't care if people have different opinions, but when they are based with prejudice and hatred like yours often are, I challenge them.

And you know that's not true. Stop saving face.

[StrawberryBlond 14,819]

35 minutes ago, CrazyMonster said:

Well I liked your answer to me, but if you don't like the fact that she's blurring the boundaries, it's your taste. I can't force you to think like I think. At least you stayed polite and shared your point of view really nicely with me.

Thanks for that. It makes a change from how I usually get addressed by Beyonce fans.

26 minutes ago, Benji said:

You can't speak for "most" people. I personally think you should both just block each other because whenever you both start arguing, you both look pretty bad. Harry makes it somewhat personal, even if I do agree with some of his points about your posts and you continue to go on often long rants that have personal jabs and ignorant points hidden.

Just block each other or f*ck. You're both getting boring with this beef.

Ok, not everyone, but there's a lot of people out there who just won't say certain things that are very valid but don't speak up for fear of being seen as intolerant when in reality, it's an issue that needs to be addressed. And nothing will change until we start talking about some, at times, uncomfortable truths. I'm educated about my beliefs and I give everyone a chance, put them all on the same level and never give special treatment. Harry has been nasty to me for ages and it all started just because he couldn't accept my opinion of Justin Bieber's music and he's been bringing me down ever since, trying to make me out to be a horrible person, even if he has to twist things. That's the truth. I never said or did anything to him, he just started a baseless personal vendetta against me. So, is it any wonder he gets me so angry and confrontational? Wouldn't you do the same in my situation?

And I don't block as I don't believe in cutting people out just because you don't agree with them. You can't do it in real life, I don't do it online.

13 minutes ago, Harry said:

Yes you are a bully. You call me names and dismiss everything I have to say because I'm a gay man and then you constantly hound me in threads, just like right now. Let me be who I am!

I don't care if people have different opinions, but when they are based with prejudice and hatred like yours often are, I challenge them.

And you know that's not true. Stop saving face.

I've never called you names. I've accused you of things, but I don't name call names face-to-face, it's one of my morals. I never dismiss anything you have to say because you're gay or for any other reason. This is just paranoia you've built up. I don't constantly hound you in threads - you're the one who purposely says indirect stuff about me publicly in the hopes that I'll reply and look like a horrible person. Maybe I shouldn't take the bait but what can I say? I don't let people walk all over me and think they can get away with being nasty. I dealt with that too much for years. When you ignore, you can come off as too unintelligent to reply or too cowardly and I don't want to give you that impression of myself, not on top of all the other untrue stuff you already claim about me.

I never base my opinions in prejudice and hatred - they're always educated and come from a well-meaning place. And don't act like you've never expressed prejudice and hate before in your posts. You insult anyone who looks at you the wrong way.

Oh, I'm not saving face. You're just not admitting your own flaws and admitting how the scenario actually played out. And you think I'm fake and play the victim?

[Benji 20,113]

1 minute ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Ok, not everyone, but there's a lot of people out there who just won't say certain things that are very valid but don't speak up for fear of being seen as intolerant when in reality, it's an issue that needs to be addressed. And nothing will change until we start talking about some, at times, uncomfortable truths. I'm educated about my beliefs and I give everyone a chance, put them all on the same level and never give special treatment. Harry has been nasty to me for ages and it all started just because he couldn't accept my opinion of Justin Bieber's music and he's been bringing me down ever since, trying to make me out to be a horrible person, even if he has to twist things. That's the truth. I never said or did anything to him, he just started a baseless personal vendetta against me. So, is it any wonder he gets me so angry and confrontational? Wouldn't you do the same in my situation?

And I don't block as I don't believe in cutting people out just because you don't agree with them. You can't do it in real life, I don't do it online.

Your views often do come across as ignorant though, especially comments regarding race. I wouldn't go as far to say you're racist as easily as some other's do but I don't think you're aware of what you're implying sometimes... like saying Beyonce is given a freepass to make whatever the quality because she's black? Now, I debated with myself whether to call you on that but I seen someone else already did and I assumed you didn't mean it near as literal as it came across.

Some members, like Harry, won't give you that pass of assuming you meant it a different way or not bother to call you on something because someone else already has.

Now, I'm no saint. I can argue with people on here for hours but it gets to the point that when it's the same name you just ignore them. There's a member here with a very one sided issue with me, so I just ignore them. They might make the odd shady post about my opinion but f*ck 'em. They're not a bad person, we just rub each other up the wrong way.

Even when you're both discussing your problems, you're both still trying to score cheap points off each other and it will get to the point that one of you will get banned because you're both not willing to let it lie.