Sanders Campaign Manager: Hillary's Foreign Policy Caused ISIS

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

The Political star wars have official begun. The twitter feuds are approaching.

*cough* Let me try this ATRL-style. *cough*

Ready your weaves gurls. The Queens are getting real.

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9 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

The title was longer but I had to shorten it because it didn't fit. It was originally: 

Sanders Campaign Manager: Hillary’s Hawkish Foreign Policy Led To The Rise & Expansion Of ISIS

It's pointless to argue that she had no part in it, but to pin this on HER specifically is something the GOP would too.

You are not acknowledging the fact that a potential future president had a part in influencing the rise of the largest terrorist organization in the world?? this is not troubling to you?....this is not something that screams ...."Maybe we should not elect this person into the white house"...???

Oh its ok Hillary you just made a huge globally devastating judgement call its ok as long as you apologize and say you'll never do it ever again ok 

[Brainiac 11,171]

Just now, LebaneseDude said:

But bringing it up in such a manner as if it was her fault is hilarious. ISIS is a very controversial topic right now and bringing her name in correlation to it is pretty desperate way to smear her.

I still don't agree with the way you're painting it but agree to disagree then. But going along with that thinking I can say this exact same sentence to you because it happened yesterday:

Gun violence is a very controversial topic right now and bringing Bernie's name in correlation to the Sandy Hook massacre is a pretty desperate way to smear him...

 

1 minute ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

 So I guess the Bush Administration going over there and starting a war in the first god damn place (And get rid of Saddam Hussein), had nothing at all to do with it eh?!  Oh okay then...  *rolling eyes*  🙄

A war that she voted for and Bernie voted against FYI.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

1 minute ago, mattwiththehat said:

You are not acknowledging the fact that a potential future president had a part in creating the largest terrorist organization in the world?? this is not troubling to you?....this is not something that screams ...."Maybe we should not elect this person into the white house"...???

Oh its ok Hillary you just made a huge globally devastating judgement call its ok as long as you apologize and say you'll never do it ever again ok 

Well in a similar vein, why should we elect a president who has never had a part in anything major?

I don't follow your logic. You can't smear Hillary's record when Sanders has none of his own to compare to, especially when you choose to ignore the positive things she's accomplished.

Oh and she had a part in it. She didn't cause it. A more accurate statement would have been "she sided with the war that eventually led to ISIS". It's also a very irrelevant comment to make alongside his other accusations. Using the word "ISIS" in conjunction with her is pretty desperate.

It's all I'm saying.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

3 minutes ago, Brainiac said:

 

Gun violence is a very controversial topic right now and bringing Bernie's name in correlation to the Sandy Hook massacre is a pretty desperate way to smear him...

I don't disagree. It was unnecessary to begin that exchange. Note that I didn't defend it when the topic came up.

The thing is, this is a far more dangerous accusation. He upped the stakes exponentially. 

[AM98GJ 3,086]

This campaign is starting to get really messy.....all these dirty low blows 

[MJHolland 12,725]

10 minutes ago, LebaneseDude said:

I was kidding :P Note the "Don't make us feel bad" that gave some level of acknowledgement to your post in a humorous tone. You aren't exactly 100% wrong.

Oh and I honestly thought you were pro-Trump. Oops. Sorry

Hehe 

I'll convince you to change your vote one of these days 

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Just now, LebaneseDude said:

Well in a similar vein, why should we elect a president who has never had a part in anything major?

I don't follow your logic. You can't smear Hillary's record when Sanders has none of his own.

in what similar vein?? Bernie was 100% against the Iraq war since the beginning so this would never of happened in the first place had he been in charge.

Sander's clean slate isn't more appealing to Hillary's devastating track record?? He has time and time again voiced his stances on issues that Hillary has taken, he has shown he is capable, now is the time to give him the platform to execute his diplomacy

[lego 44,165]

"She supported the war in Iraq. She continues to have a very, very hawkish foreign policy that has led to the rise and expansion of ISIS throughout the Middle East."

 

 

I see no lies. And her hawkish foreign policy will **** up the world once again. 

[MJHolland 12,725]

Just now, AM98GJ said:

This campaign is starting to get really messy.....all these dirty low blows 

How is this a low blow? It's actually embarrassingly accurate. ISIS was in fact created by US foreign policy, and Clinton backed/was the face of that foreign policy campaign every step of the way and that's just fact...

[Brainiac 11,171]

2 minutes ago, AM98GJ said:

This campaign is starting to get really messy.....all these dirty low blows 

I don't see how calling Hillary out on her lack of judgement when it comes to the War in Iraq is a low blow. That is a legitimate fact that should be pointed out.

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

4 minutes ago, mattwiththehat said:

in what similar vein?? Bernie was 100% against the Iraq war since the beginning so this would never of happened in the first place had he been in charge.

Sander's clean slate isn't more appealing to Hillary's devastating track record?? He has time and time again voiced his stances on issues that Hillary has taken, he has shown he is capable, now is the time to give him the platform to execute his diplomacy

The point is he's never engaged in anything outside the scope of Senator of Vermont. You're comparing two entirely different careers that have had different scopes. Don't smear Hillary's track record as a Secretary of State or First Lady even (like what) and compare it to Sander's senator history as if that's comparable. Responsibilities as Secretary of State entail issues of FAR greater discretion and impact. That some have failed is a norm in the international scene. God it's pretty normal for **** not to work where I come from. You guys got it good.

Hell if you said he accomplished more as a Senator, I would not disagree. Of course him being a Senator for 3x the duration has something to do with it.

LOL Hillary does not have a devastating track record. Stop dramatizing. You can literally count her major ****ups in one hand. Why are you ignoring all the good **** she's done? I give those far more weight, as I would if Bernie was in the same position (which he has never been in).

Considering he's never had to exercise his diplomacy outside of easy-going white Vermont, I hope it does work if he becomes President.

[Brainiac 11,171]

1 minute ago, MJHolland said:

How is this a low blow? It's actually embarrassingly accurate. ISIS was in fact created by US foreign policy, and Clinton backed/was the face of that foreign policy campaign every step of the way and that's just fact...

Hey I actually agree with you on something for once! 

[En_Sabah_Nur 9,366]

2 minutes ago, Brainiac said:

I still don't agree with the way you're painting it but agree to disagree then. But going along with that thinking I can say this exact same sentence to you because it happened yesterday:

Gun violence is a very controversial topic right now and bringing Bernie's name in correlation to the Sandy Hook massacre is a pretty desperate way to smear him...

 

A war that she voted for and Bernie voted against FYI.

Oh please!!!  U guys blame her when she voted on certain things & when she didn't vote on certain things.  On one hand you blame her for ACTUALLY voting for the Iraq war(which many democrats did at the time), and then on the other hand you blame her for supporting all these trade deals, even though she had no vote in most of them at the time.  But supported them from a far through her husband as First Lady.  Then when she actually got in the senate & voted AGAINST trade deals such as CAFTA.  You guys conveniently leave that out & never mention it.  Hmmmmmm, I wonder why????!  Smh

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

3 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

How is this a low blow? It's actually embarrassingly accurate. ISIS was in fact created by US foreign policy, and Clinton backed/was the face of that foreign policy campaign every step of the way and that's just fact...

It's a low blow because it's something that the entirety of the USA is ashamed of, not Hillary herself. 

It's a low blow because it's a fellow democrat saying this, as opposed to the GOP.

I mean, I know the GOP is currently tearing each other a new one, but the Democrats are known for being less aggressive. This is something the GOP would do.