Gaga and Jamie Lee Curtis promote Hilary Clinton in a new photo

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6 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

Hilary recently changed her views for obvious reasons and all of the sudden became a feminist progressive yet she constantly contradicts herself! Bernie has always been fighting for the exact same things like political corruption and social racial issues since the 50's. Currently, they both stand for the same things but the difference is Bernie is against corruption in government while Hilary supports corruption and Bernie is more consistent so why wouldnt Gaga not vote Bernie? specially that she also agrees with him on economic issues too.

Because Gaga is a human being with her own thoughts, opinions and values and in the US every citizen over the age of 18 ha the right to vote for who they believe will be the best candidate for the job. 

She supports a different candidate than you do. You are free to support whoever you want to support and Gaga is the same. 

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Noooo Gaga

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11 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Because Gaga is a human being with her own thoughts, opinions and values and in the US every citizen over the age of 18 ha the right to vote for who they believe will be the best candidate for the job. 

She supports a different candidate than you do. You are free to support whoever you want to support and Gaga is the same. 

What the heck are you talking about? when did I say that she doesnt have the right to vote? and I know she has her own thoughts, opinions and values when did I say she doesnt? then you tell me that "in the US" as if you educating me on how things work in the US! what im doing is criticizing her public support for Hilary who is someone that goes against her values and everything she stands for while someone with her exact same values as her exist yet she doesnt vote for him so my conclusion is shes voting for hilary because Hilary = Vagina.

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13 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

What the heck are you talking about? when did I say that she doesnt have the right to vote? and I know she has her own thoughts, opinions and values when did I say she doesnt? then you tell me that "in the US" as if you educating me on how things work in the US! what im doing is criticizing her public support for Hilary who is someone that goes against her values and everything she stands for while someone with her exact same values as her exist yet she doesnt vote for him so my conclusion is shes voting for hilary because Hilary = Vagina.

 Yes, I'm well aware that you are criticizing her for her personal choice. 

Hillary supports the issues and values that Gaga feels are important at this time, which is why most sane individuals select a candidate to support and vote for. 

Your conclusion is disgusting and insulting. 

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18 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

What the heck are you talking about? when did I say that she doesnt have the right to vote? and I know she has her own thoughts, opinions and values when did I say she doesnt? then you tell me that "in the US" as if you educating me on how things work in the US! what im doing is criticizing her public support for Hilary who is someone that goes against her values and everything she stands for while someone with her exact same values as her exist yet she doesnt vote for him so my conclusion is shes voting for hilary because Hilary = Vagina.

Maybe Gaga supports Hillary over Sanders because nothing he is f***ing proposing will EVER see the light of day.!!!  We'll be lucky if Hillary can get anything through this congress!  But coming to them with free education, free health care, free this & free that.  They are just going to LOL in his face & go back to being a do nothing congress!  He will have to use his executive pin so much that the damn thing will break!  So maybe think about that before you try coming for All Hillary Clinton Supporters (Including Gaga's) Intelligence!  SMH

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1 hour ago, hahahahahahahah said:

listen, if you vote bernie or vote hillary it's almost the same god damn thing LOL. HONESTLY. 

 

listen to me when i say that the phenomenon of "we believe" (obama) is VERY similar to the one of "feel the bern."

one must understand that there is ALWAYS congress to contend with and no matter a president's agenda, it can be blocked at every turn by the hundreds and hundreds of people who are in the pocket of oil, or plastic, or pharmaceuticals, wall street, etc. etc. pushing for their own agendas and who will vote against any bill Bernie will attempt to put forward. 2 years into bernie's term, should he be elected, i feel like people will be vastly let down in the same way they were with obama because they do not understand the nature of U.S. politics, that congress is a force to be reckoned with and that bernie is very similar to trump in the sense that they are both demagogues, pushing for policy that will most likely be killed

while many believe hillary is untrustworthy (which she is in a way) bernie is suspect, too. i mean he has worked within the system for so long that surely he knows these things unless he is 1. delusional with hope 2. lying to the public (i doubt it) or 3. has some secret weapon that will allow him to convince these people, half of whom do not even believe in climate change and are generally for the rich, to back his policy.

hillary is widely seen as untrustworthy (this is understandable) but ultimately her politics are the same as bernie's in the sense that she is pushing for what can realistically be pushed through congress and what i feel like bernie will in the end be relegated to because it is what is practical under the framework of U.S. politics today (and even then it will be a challenge with hillary because republicans hate her).

were president bernie to create a bill with one of his very liberal ideas (very good imo, i love bern), i suspect it will be shot down in congress like a hang glider over the pentagon.

 

bernie says to dream big and i agree it is a good thought but idk....when we look at obama's presidency and all the things he wanted to get done but couldn't or struggled very hard with because of congress ****ing him over, it really doesn't seem like these things bernie wants will become a reality, as if suddenly with the election of bernie the system will change. so it'll be bernie trying to push his policy through and being turned down and then adopting something less progressive, something similar to hillary. 

in conclusion, i wish obama could run for a third term because he would ****ing destroy all the candidates and leave pieces of them littered on the campaign trail for rodents to feed on. LOL

THIS ALL THE WAY!!!  ^^^ 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾  

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1 hour ago, svvior said:

That feeling when you come out with an album called born this way but promote someone who didn't support gay rights until 2013. 

And neither did Obama, so what's your point?

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4 hours ago, SychosSoChic said:

Me coming to this thread, celebrating with my fellow Hillary supporters, laughing at all the bitter Bernie stans  lol

Yasssssssssssss!  

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6 hours ago, forslayage said:

the thing i hate is that, hillary didn't support gay marriage until 2013.. gaga pls stop this madness

And Obama didn't either, so your point would be what??

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11 minutes ago, Whispering said:

 Yes, I'm well aware that you are criticizing her for her personal choice. 

Hillary supports the issues and values that Gaga feels are important at this time, which is why most sane individuals select a candidate to support and vote for. 

Your conclusion is disgusting and insulting. 

Yes I do know that individual people select and vote for a candidate based on their values witch I did not criticize Gaga on that (even though I dont think its wrong to do so), I criticized and called Gaga out for voting for the person that goes against her values. Weather you think my conclusion is wrong or right is another issue but telling me that she has the right to have an opinion and vote for whoever she wants is just stupid specially when I never said she doesnt!

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17 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

Maybe Gaga supports Hillary over Sanders because nothing he is f***ing proposing will EVER see the light of day.!!!  We'll be lucky if Hillary can get anything through this congress!  But coming to them with free education, free health care, free this & free that.  They are just going to LOL in his face & go back to being a do nothing congress!  He will have to use his executive pin so much that the damn thing will break!  So maybe think about that before you try coming for All Hillary Clinton Supporters (Including Gaga's) Intelligence!  SMH

If them being president wont change anything because of congress, why not atleast vote for someone who will challenge and speak against corruption in government, corporations, and politics? atleast he can change things socially and make future presidential elections better as corporations and the media are now exposed..

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Just now, faysalaaa1 said:

Yes I do know that individual people select and vote for a candidate based on their values witch I did not criticize Gaga on that (even though I dont think its wrong to do so), I criticized and called Gaga out for voting for the person that goes against her values. Weather you think my conclusion is wrong or right is another issue but telling me that she has the right to have an opinion and vote for whoever she wants is just stupid specially when I never said she doesnt!

Gaga feels that Hillary matches her values and beliefs better than any other candidate  running and that she is the best choice for the Presidency. 

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Just now, Whispering said:

Gaga feels that Hillary matches her values and beliefs better than any other candidate  running and that she is the best choice for the Presidency. 

None of us talked to Gaga about this so we dont know thats what she believes.. my conclusion comes based on what Gaga has put out in the public and I judge her based on that. I do not believe Gaga believes that Hilary matches her values at all and I think she knows that.

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5 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

Well if they both wont change anything and them being president wont change anything because of congress, why not vote for someone that is against government and political corruption and will challenge them? atleast they can change things socially and make future presidential elections better..

And how do you propose all future candidates running for office PAY for their elections huh?!  Not every person in the country running for office can start a political "movement" like Bernie Sanders has...  Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire, especially with things like the Supreme Court being held in the balance.  At least until Citzens United IS overturned anyway....

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5 minutes ago, faysalaaa1 said:

None of us talked to Gaga about this so we dont know thats what she believes.. my conclusion comes based on what Gaga has put out in the public and I judge her based on that. I do not believe Gaga believes that Hilary matches her values at all and I think she knows that.

Or maybe Gaga is from New York & remembers how great of a senator Hillary was for her state, or maybe because (like me) she grew up with the Clintons during the 90's & is familiar/comfortable with her & maybe that's why she supports her!!!