ARTPOP influence

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

1 minute ago, Poison Pacifier said:

its means

gaga

breaks

promises

but beyonce

dont

Gaga promised YOU nothing. Be thankful for what you've got.

[Sunday 2,183]

Just now, Lord Temptation said:

I never accused you of criticising did I?

You made it sound like I did  I think    So what was your point ? 

[LizaMontero 93]

16 hours ago, Lord Temptation said:

I was thinking that too. 

But we also have Grimes' latest album titled "Art Angels"

Kanye using the name of artist Pablo Picasso crossed with the tile of arthouse director Ang Lee's film "The Life of Pi" in his new album title "The Life of Pablo"

Also, remember when for a while in late 2014 when both Beyonce AND Katy Perry were dressing up as artist Frida Kahlo?

But in terms of ARTPOP's influence on the art world - as opposed to the music business - here is an interesting article

http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/ARTPOP_meets_Pop_art_Influences_on_Lady_Gagas_new_album.html

Interesting. I just don't know why is it so hard for some artists now to credit someone who inspired them 

[AIex 3,102]

Just now, Lord Temptation said:

Gaga promised YOU nothing. Be thankful for what you've got.

jesus ****ing christ chill with the attitude

 

gaga planned a visual album

beyonce did it few short months later

 

thats all im saying

[hELXIG 43,082]

Okay everyone stop being so hard on OP now, they get the point, they didn't realise that Gaga's covers were inspired by David Bowie. It was a simple mistake and it's obvious to see how they thought Taylor Swift was inspired by Gaga. And maybe she was? But also maybe not. Who knows.

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

7 minutes ago, LizaMontero said:

Interesting. I just don't know why is it so hard for some artists now to credit someone who inspired them 

Well, true artists like Gaga always celebrate and honour their influences. She is always gushing about how Bowie, Koons, Abramovic, Madonna and especially Warhol have inspired her. 

On the other hand, people who are not artists never respect the art they steal. They take but they never acknowledge.

It comes from the insecurity in knowing that someone else a lot more talented than them are a lot less famous, and it makes them feel guilty. So they choose to ignore them.

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

5 minutes ago, Foxy said:

You made it sound like I did  I think    So what was your point ? 

You've already proved my point 

[LizaMontero 93]

Spoiler

How about this one?

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

12 minutes ago, Poison Pacifier said:

jesus ****ing christ chill with the attitude

 

gaga planned a visual album

beyonce did it few short months later

 

thats all im saying

I almost forgot about Miley's ARTPOP binge.

 

[LizaMontero 93]

FLOP: a thing that scared other superstars to their futures 

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

6 minutes ago, LizaMontero said:

FLOP: a thing that scared other superstars to their futures 

Gaga is the queen of physics education: what goes up must come down.

Gaga is also the queen of rising from the ashes and reincarnating as a different type of star: when people think you are over as a pop star, become a jazz star (but only if you can sing jazz)

[eifulien 2,969]

1 hour ago, Lord Temptation said:

I was thinking that too. 

But in terms of ARTPOP's influence on the art world - as opposed to the music business - here is an interesting article

http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/ARTPOP_meets_Pop_art_Influences_on_Lady_Gagas_new_album.html

That article was an excellent read. Although it is somewhat ambiguous to me since I don't have the necessary cultural knowledge to know all these art pieces.

Everytime I think I got ARTPOP figured out something like this pops out.  I guess ARTPOP is a work that reflects your own knowledge at the end of the day. The more you know the more you're able to see in the album. 

Still, it confirms yet again something that I've been thinking - AP is TF 2.0 no matter if LMs like to agree with that. The main difference - during TF she was playing the superstar until she became it. Hence, the mystery surrounding her persona and everything she did. With AP she had a more introspective approach, reflecting on her own personal path to Fame and trying to explain to the audience the creative process in a very direct and open way. 

I find this interview very interesting. She even admits that ARTPOP is not something original, or sth she hasn't done before - actually it's the opposite - something old that she just only then realised and gave name to.  

 

 

[LizaMontero 93]

16 hours ago, Son of ARTPOP said:

That article was an excellent read. Although it is somewhat ambiguous to me since I don't have the necessary cultural knowledge to know all these art pieces.

Everytime I think I got ARTPOP figured out something like this pops out.  I guess ARTPOP is a work that reflects your own knowledge at the end of the day. The more you know the more you're able to see in the album. 

Still, it confirms yet again something that I've been thinking - AP is TF 2.0 no matter if LMs like to agree with that. The main difference - during TF she was playing the superstar until she became it. Hence, the mystery surrounding her persona and everything she did. With AP she had a more introspective approach, reflecting on her own personal path to Fame and trying to explain to the audience the creative process in a very direct and open way. 

I find this interview very interesting. She even admits that ARTPOP is not something original, or sth she hasn't done before - actually it's the opposite - something old that she just only then realised and gave name to.  

 

 

Yes. ARTPOP is the artsy version of The Fame. Some songs are even similar when I first heard those

Applause = Poker Face 2.0

G.U.Y. = LoveGame 2.0

[Katsuki Bakugo 9,788]

3 hours ago, LizaMontero said:

Looks like I need more research  didn't know about that

This is not shade or anything but how can you be a Gaga fan and not know this? Or her inspiration from Bowie. ARTPOP is a very bowie esque album tbh

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

1 hour ago, Son of ARTPOP said:

That article was an excellent read. Although it is somewhat ambiguous to me since I don't have the necessary cultural knowledge to know all these art pieces.

Everytime I think I got ARTPOP figured out something like this pops out.  I guess ARTPOP is a work that reflects your own knowledge at the end of the day. The more you know the more you're able to see in the album. 

Still, it confirms yet again something that I've been thinking - AP is TF 2.0 no matter if LMs like to agree with that. The main difference - during TF she was playing the superstar until she became it. Hence, the mystery surrounding her persona and everything she did. With AP she had a more introspective approach, reflecting on her own personal path to Fame and trying to explain to the audience the creative process in a very direct and open way. 

I find this interview very interesting. She even admits that ARTPOP is not something original, or sth she hasn't done before - actually it's the opposite - something old that she just only then realised and gave name to.  

 

 

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

I never even knew this interview existed but it's now my favourite interview of all time!

Your ideas about ARTPOP being The Fame 2.0 make a lot of sense to me. Gaga said that The Fame is not about who we are, but about how everyone wants to know who we are. Conversely, ARTPOP is about who we are and who we want to be, even if noone (including ourselves) knows the real us. It is precisely as Gaga described, a reverse Warholian experience. But the irony is that both works are as much about Gaga's own journey through superstardom as it is about her audience (media and the stans) watching her.

Gaga is ... phenomenal. I can't even begin to describe her effect on me. I just adore her. She's a beast but also an angel, an old soul yet from the neverending future.