Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 DO NOT COMMENT IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED AT LEAST HALF THE VIDEO. She disgusts me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Just now, Azor Ahai said: DO NOT COMMENT IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED AT LEAST HALF THE VIDEO "Video length: 36:15" Good luck with that. Anyway she's already at the worst point on my Scale of Disgust, so the video won't change much. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Just now, Goosey said: "Video length: 36:15" Good luck with that. Anyway she's already at the worst point on my Scale of Disgust, so the video won't change much. Well if anyone is actually interested in her politics they should watch the video, if not , move along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 She's exactly the same or worse than Republican candidates when it comes to sucking up to Israel and dehumanizing Palestinians. I've seen snippets of her speech and she disgusts me. The students she praised were giving flyers with Meir Kahane quotes at AIPAC. They gave standing ovation to Trump too. That whole lobby is **** and shouldn't exist. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 18 minutes ago, Azor Ahai said: She disgusts me. Whats the problem? The differences between her and Bernie are really small on the subject. Basically, Bernie agrees with everything she said and then says that Israel has also done some mistakes. If he would have been there, he would have forgot about them. Comparing her to republicans, she is an angel, but it doesnt matter. You clearly want to hate her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Florin said: Whats the problem? The differences between her and Bernie are really small on the subject. Basically, Bernie agrees with everything she said and then says that Israel has also done some mistakes. If he would have been there, he would have forgot about them. Comparing her to republicans, she is an angel, but it doesnt matter. You clearly want to hate her. Did Sanders make a speech promising Israel better techonologies and guns to completely destroy Palestine? I must have missed it. He is also Jewish himself and still he didn't go there making any speeches. I agree that he and Clinton won't really do any different if they actually get elected but her speech completely disgusted me. Anyway in the end it will be Clinton vs Trump and she will obviously win. I just can't believe how awful the next president of the United States is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz 4,253 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 i just got to the part where she is talking about our nations being built by immigrants and exiles. and how in israel's story we see our own.............. except the slavery part but yeah kicking people out of their homes, taking their land and damn near genocide yeah you got a point hillary I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheResidentZionist 128 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 19 minutes ago, VampireHeart said: She's exactly the same or worse than Republican candidates when it comes to sucking up to Israel and dehumanizing Palestinians. I've seen snippets of her speech and she disgusts me. The students she praised were giving flyers with Meir Kahane quotes at AIPAC. They gave standing ovation to Trump too. That whole lobby is **** and shouldn't exist. as someone who is genetically and religiously Jewish i take offense. We all know how easy it would be to have another genocide of the Jews. Someone like Trump uses that same rhetoric. Dont talk about sucking up to Israel. The Jews have been ostracized since the beginning of time and finally now that they have there one little plot of dirt in the world you wanna talk about how we are sucking up to them...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 She's bluffing. This is no different than the speech Obama gave them as well. It's just a political trick to get support. She'll most likely just maintain the status quo like Obama has done. Although it's also possible that she'll try to get closer to Israel in order to push them towards doing the right thing, just like Obama is currently doing with Iran. Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, Florin said: Whats the problem? The differences between her and Bernie are really small on the subject. Basically, Bernie agrees with everything she said and then says that Israel has also done some mistakes. If he would have been there, he would have forgot about them. Comparing her to republicans, she is an angel, but it doesnt matter. You clearly want to hate her. Bernie, the only Jewish candiate, spoke about Palestinians as human beings (after that cringy intro). That's the big difference. He is the only one who dared to use the word OCCUPATION, the forbidden words amongst the Republicans and Hillary. "But to be successful, we have also got to be a friend not only to Israel, but to the Palestinian people, where in Gaza unemployment today is 44 percent and we have there a poverty rate which is almost as high. So when we talk about Israel and Palestinian areas, it is important to understand that today there is a whole lot of among Palestinians and that cannot be ignored. You can’t have good policy that results in peace if you ignore one side. The road toward peace will be difficult. Wonderful people, well-intentioned people have tried decade after decade to achieve that and it will not be easy. I cannot tell you exactly how it will look – I do not believe anyone can – but I firmly believe that the only prospect for peace is the successful negotiation of a two-state solution. The first step in that road ahead is to set the stage for resuming the peace process through direct negotiations. Progress is never made unless people are prepared to sit down and talk to each other. This is no small thing. It means building confidence on both sides, offering some signs of good faith, and then proceeding to talks when conditions permit them to be constructive. Again, this is not easy, but that is the direction we’ve got to go. This will require compromises on both sides, but I believe it can be done. I believe that Israel, the Palestinians, and the international community can, must, and will rise to the ocassion and do what needs to be done to achieve a lasting peace in a region of the world that has seen so much war, so much conflict and so much suffering. Peace has to mean security for every Israeli from violence and terrorism. But peace also means security for every Palestinian. It means achieving self-determination, civil rights, and economic well-being for the Palestinian people. Peace will mean ending what amounts to the occupation of Palestinian territory, establishing mutually agreed upon borders, and pulling back settlements in the West Bank, just as Israel did in Gaza – once considered an unthinkable move on Israel’s part. That is why I join much of the international community, including the U.S. State Department and European Union, in voicing my concern that Israel’s recent expropriation of an additional 579 acres of land in the West Bank undermines the peace process and, ultimately, Israeli security as well. It is absurd for elements within the Netanyahu government to suggest that building more settlements in the West Bank is the appropriate response to the most recent violence. It is also not acceptable that the Netanyahu government decided to withhold hundreds of millions of Shekels in tax revenue from the Palestinians, which it is supposed to collect on their behalf. But, by the same token, it is also unacceptable for President Abbas to call for the abrogation of the Oslo Agreement when the goal should be the ending of violence. Peace will also mean ending the economic blockade of Gaza. And it will mean a sustainable and equitable distribution of precious water resources so that Israel and Palestine can both thrive as neighbors. Right now, Israel controls 80 percent of the water reserves in the West Bank. Inadequate water supply has contributed to the degradation and desertification of Palestinian land. A lasting a peace will have to recognize Palestinians are entitled to control their own lives and there is nothing human life needs more than water. Peace will require strict adherence by both sides." https://berniesanders.com/sanders-outlines-middle-east-policy/ You will never hear these words from Hillary's mouth. She criticized Trump for being neutral(?!) on the conflict, even he's not. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Just now, Azor Ahai said: Did Sanders make a speech promising Israel better techonologies and guns to completely destroy Palestine? I must have missed it. He is also Jewish himself and still he didn't go there making any speeches. I agree that he and Clinton won't really do any different if they actually get elected but her speech completely disgusted me. Anyway in the end it will be Clinton vs Trump and she will obviously win. I just can't believe how awful the next president of the United States is. Bye. Continue to hate her and love Bernie for promissing to do the same thing / doing the same thing on the subject. It makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Just now, iamlost481516 said: as someone who is genetically and religiously Jewish i take offense. We all know how easy it would be to have another genocide of the Jews. Someone like Trump uses that same rhetoric. Dont talk about sucking up to Israel. The Jews have been ostracized since the beginning of time and finally now that they have there one little plot of dirt in the world you wanna talk about how we are sucking up to them...... Οh don't worry about Trump , the AIPAC crowd loved him and game him a standing ovation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebaneseDude 6,146 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Oooh boy the overreactions in this thread lol Edited just now by LebaneseDude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Just now, Florin said: Bye. Continue to hate her and love Bernie for promissing to do the same thing / doing the same thing on the subject. It makes sense. So you just won't even read anything I say , nice. Also I dont care about Sanders at all , he is all promises and promises but Hillary is much worse. I never said I loved him or prefered him to her... keep making things up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I'm not really into politics and I'm not from the US, but I know a few things.. And I just can't imagine a person like Trump leading one of the biggest (if not the biggest) forces in the world. I mean, Hilary can be bad, but she can't be THAT bad tbh.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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