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"Migrants streaming into Europe from the Middle East are bringing with them virulent anti-Semitism which is erupting from Scandinavia to France to Germany.

“I don’t think it is the 1930s, I don’t see boxcars arriving,” said Ira Forman, Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism at the US State Department.

But the smaller Jewish communities will disappear” in far-flung places such as Norway, Sweden and Greece. Some of these communities have existed for more than 2,000 years.

While all of the incoming refugees and migrants, fleeing Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and other Muslim lands, may not hold anti-Jewish views, an extremely large number do — simply as a result to being raised in places where anti-Jewish vitriol is poured out in TV, newspapers, schools and mosques.

The future of our civilization is at risk, said a French expert, speaking at a Georgetown University conference Feb. 29 in Washington DC. If governments cannot protect their Jews, who can it protect?

This threat to Jewish communities in Europe comes from three sides:
 Traditional right-wing neo-Nazi groups;
 Leftists siding with Arab anti-Zionist complaint
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 And the new juggernaut of anti-Semitic feelings —more than a million Arab and Muslim migrants last year and another 100,000 so far this year. They come from countries where hatred of Jews is part of the culture.

European Jews are going into exile rapidly in recent months. Thousands are moving to Israel, England and the United States, seeking safety to raise their families without fear.

Please read the rest here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ben-barber/muslim-migrants-fan-europ_b_9395896.html

Around 3 million people in Europe have right to move to Israel and tbh I think there is maybe a mass exodus happening within the next 20 years. 

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I'm not shocked honestly, I don't want to offend anyone but the Middle East is still pretty backwards in the way they think. Too bad it causes Jews to go away, I like everbody! I want everybody to live together without fearing each other. :ohno:

‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá
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lego
24 minutes ago, Simon said:

Around 3 million people in Europe have right to move to Israel and tbh I think there is maybe a mass exodus happening within the next 20 years. 

 

Dude, no.

You are against settlers, but you want to invite and expand more. Their home is Europe.

Palestinian refugees need to have right of return. 

 

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Melech
1 hour ago, VampireHeart said:

 

Dude, no.

You are against settlers, but you want to invite and expand more. Their home is Europe.

Palestinian refugees need to have right of return. 

 

Lol Jews are indigenous to Israel. Several DNA studies have shown that. Israel is home of Jews. 

This shown btw that you are an anti-Semite now. Jewish right of return is as legimtate as Palestinian right of return. 

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TiphEret
1 hour ago, brendablethyn said:

Um why can't they just stay in their own country then :laughga:

Have you heard about uhm this war in Syria? You know when the government kills its own people? And when Isis takes advantage and create a bigger mess? 

49 minutes ago, Simon said:

Lol Jews are indigenous to Israel. Several DNA studies have shown that. Israel is home of Jews. 

This shown btw that you are an anti-Semite now. Jewish right of return is as legimtate as Palestinian right of return. 

So should everyone go back where they come from according your logic? I think the argument of I was there first is probably not the best in such case? Then probably the entire US and Canada has also some work to do and give back the land back to the Native (we know this will never happens). It's not like Jews were the only native of that land anyway. Let's not forget also conversion that happen after the diaspora in Eastern Europe, so many Jews originate from Eastern Europe too, should they go to Ukraine then? 

Also in many countries jus soli is as important as jus sanguinis. Not saying those people should not emigrate to Israel (even though I don't think it's a solution to anti semitism in europe) but that it's a lot more compliacted than that considering the situation with Palestinian that is an on going problem.

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Melech
54 minutes ago, TiphEret said:

Have you heard about uhm this war in Syria? You know when the government kills its own people? And when Isis takes advantage and create a bigger mess? 

So should everyone go back where they come from according your logic? I think the argument of I was there first is probably not the best in such case? Then probably the entire US and Canada has also some work to do and give back the land back to the Native (we know this will never happens). It's not like Jews were the only native of that land anyway. Let's not forget also conversion that happen after the diaspora in Eastern Europe, so many Jews originate from Eastern Europe too, should they go to Ukraine then? 

Also in many countries jus soli is as important as jus sanguinis. Not saying those people should not emigrate to Israel (even though I don't think it's a solution to anti semitism in europe) but that it's a lot more compliacted than that considering the situation with Palestinian that is an on going problem.

So palestinians shouldn't go back to the Levant as well? 

And as I said, dna proved that Jews even Ashkenazi ones trace back to the Levant. Kinda offended right now actually

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TiphEret
7 minutes ago, Simon said:

So palestinians shouldn't go back to the Levant as well? 

And as I said, dna proved that Jews even Ashkenazi ones trace back to the Levant. Kinda offended right now actually

This is not my point, my point is basing such reasoning only on DNA means that pretty much the entire planet does not belong where it is now. It negates ones attachment to where someone is born. Again , Jews were not the only Indigenous of the land they were a tribe among others. I am sorry if you feel offended but this actually facts and research that were told by Jews to me and later found in other book. I don't think there is anything wrong to that because I don't question the place of Jews in Israel, like I don't question the place of Palestinian. I think the fact someone is born on a land is enough for them to have a right to stay there hence all the Israelis that descent from migrants. 

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Melech
1 minute ago, TiphEret said:

This is not my point, my point is basing such reasoning only on DNA means that pretty much the entire planet does not belong where it is now. It negates ones attachment to where someone is born. Again , Jews were not the only Indigenous of the land they were a tribe among others. I am sorry if you feel offended but this actually facts and research that were told by Jews to me and later found in other book. I don't think there is anything wrong to that because I don't question the place of Jews in Israel, like I don't question the place of Palestinian. I think the fact someone is born on a land is enough for them to have a right to stay there hence all the Israelis that descent from migrants. 

Yeah but saying as Lego said that Jews are not allowed to return is stupid imo

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Will integration never happen in Europe? If the EU and governments there could get people working, give people a little prosperity, something to aspire to, they'll be less focused in the differences among culture which becomes widely apparent with poverty and huge gaps of disparity and scarcity. Europe should capitalize on the new potential labor, since the decreasing population and low birth rates would stagnate economic growth since new homes or products would sell less, however, with immigration, however it comes gives Europeans challenges and yet opportunities to work towards to compete in the global market. 

Jews, Muslims, Christians, atheists, and other cultures alike can participate while respecting differences and protecting heritage.  Though America struggles with this sort of thing when you look at politics, you don't see the small pockets of hate stopping the economic growth along with the slow integration of so many cultures. People get alienated everyday and can be under threat in some areas, but fear doesn't have to stop people from moving forward. Just at the corner of my block alone is a mosque, a Jewish congregation, a Catholic Church, and a Christian church down the street, a testiment of multicultiralism at work in my community. Is this not possible in Europe? 

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TiphEret
4 minutes ago, Simon said:

Yeah but saying as Lego said that Jews are not allowed to return is stupid imo

I never said they should not be allowed to return just that saying they should be allowed because they are indigenous to the land is complicated because then many other ethnic group could claim to return to Israel too. If you disagree with Lego argue with her not me

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lego
2 hours ago, Simon said:

Lol Jews are indigenous to Israel. Several DNA studies have shown that. Israel is home of Jews. 

This shown btw that you are an anti-Semite now. Jewish right of return is as legimtate as Palestinian right of return. 

 

I don't care and I don't trust your sources about DNA. You said you are against illegal settlements and at the same time you're inviting millions more. That is contradiction. 

That would mean more ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and more massacres. That land is not empty you know? It was not empty when you created a state, it's not empty now.

You are bringing up and comparing something from thousands of years ago, which can hardly be proven with the biggest refugee group who DOES NOT have right to return (how is that fair?), many of their grandparents are still alive holding the keys of their old homes, they were expelled from; something that happened only six decades ago.

I know what I am, your labels and insults are only an attempt to shut me up:) 

 

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lego
39 minutes ago, Shadow said:

Just at the corner of my block alone is a mosque, a Jewish congregation, a Catholic Church, and a Christian church down the street, a testiment of multicultiralism at work in my community. Is this not possible in Europe? 

 

It's possible in many places in Balkan.

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Melech
47 minutes ago, VampireHeart said:

 

I don't care and I don't trust your sources about DNA. You said you are against illegal settlements and at the same time you're inviting millions more. That is contradiction. 

That would mean more ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and more massacres. That land is not empty you know? It was not empty when you created a state, it's not empty now.

You are bringing up and comparing something from thousands of years ago, which can hardly be proven with the biggest refugee group who DOES NOT have right to return (how is that fair?), many of their grandparents are still alive holding the keys of their old homes, they were expelled from; something that happened only six decades ago.

I know what I am, your labels and insults are only an attempt to shut me up:) 

 

Who said they gonna move to settlements? Like seriously? It is possible that many people live at the a small place. Cities in Asia are proof of it. Jews are as indigenous as Palestinians there. 

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