Quark 7,089 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 o<(0_0)>o Where did people here get the idea that Gaga changed ARTPOP's sound because Interscope made her do it? As far as I know there is no single source that implicitly states that Interscope made her change her original sound. All we have are rumors and sources that are just speculating that this happened because of Gaga's breakup with Troy. It just all seems weird that many here are acting like this is completely true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusfly 17,885 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 It was reported by NYPost and PageSix and was brought up again today by DJ Snake saying he produced tracks for her just for them to be changed at the end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEWRJEWR 5,663 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 It's a fan myth. We dont know if its either true or false so Fear, she's the mother of violence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peroxide 9,202 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 o<(0_0)>o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hELXIG 42,605 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Didn't she actually say once that she took music to them and they didn't like it? And then when a ARTPOP took longer than we expected, and a bunch of songs weren't on it that she was excited about, we assumed it was because they made her change it? And then she said something about 2 volumes, one that will be commercial for them, and one that will be artistic for her and the fans. And a bunch of other jabs she's made at record labels since then about forcing artist to make music they don't want to. There's just been a lot of cumulative evidence that points to it over the past 3 years. But obviously she isn't allowed to just outright say what they did or how things happened. I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,089 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 1 minute ago, LG said: It was reported by NYPost and PageSix and was brought up again today by DJ Snake saying he produced tracks for her just for them to be changed at the end Those media sites were just speculating. DJ Snake is not proof of this either. Gaga is obviously going to change her sound as she pleases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,089 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 1 minute ago, helxig said: Didn't she actually say once that she took music to them and they didn't like it? And then when a ARTPOP took longer than we expected, and a bunch of songs weren't on it that she was excited about, we assumed it was because they made her change it? And then she said something about 2 volumes, one that will be commercial for them, and one that will be artistic for her and the fans. And a bunch of other jabs she's made at record labels since then about forcing artist to make music they don't want to. There's just been a lot of cumulative evidence that points to it over the past 3 years. But obviously she isn't allowed to just outright say what they did or how things happened. She never really said anything about Interscope or the music. It was all about Troy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
venusfly 17,885 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 1 minute ago, Enigma said: Those media sites were just speculating. DJ Snake is not proof of this either. Gaga is obviously going to change her sound as she pleases. They weren't speculating, they reported on info they claim to be from someone close to Gaga's camp, whether the information is true or not is unclear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeka 12,372 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Maybe the fact she was working on it since BTW? The idea that nothing can stay the same with this woman? The idea that Gaga is an actual artist who wants everything perfect? The fact that there was probably an entirely different setlist? Or maybe that there's over a dozen other demos for ARTPOP (Posh Life, Brooklyn Nights, and I Wanna Be With You included?) It may not be a fact, but with the time Gaga took on it, and the fact she broke her hip and decided to rerecord somethings, yes it probably has changed. May I also remind you there is a solo version of DWUW. Which means it may have been a solo song at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,089 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 1 minute ago, LG said: They weren't speculating, they reported on info they claim to be from someone close to Gaga's camp, whether the information is true or not is unclear. But they did not say explicitly that Gaga changed her sound because of Interscope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg 6,330 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Princess Die is the biggest hint. She played it early on during the BTWB in 2012, and she'd confirmed in October 2011 she'd been writing for her next album. In December 2011 she confirmed there was a song on the new album that would feature Elton John. 'Death and decay of an icon' was definitely a theme she was exploring, but never ended up on the ARTPOP record. Princess Die and a song with Elton most certainly would not fit on ARTPOP, so that's the biggest hint that the direction of the album was changed. Gaga could have just changed her mind, but we don't know. What we do know is that Gaga struggled with single choices and creative decisions with ARTPOP because Interscope wanted control over it (e.g. Gaga wanted Gyspy or Sexxx Dreams as the first single, and also the huge DWUW mess when Gaga wanted Venus), so it's a possibility. Gaga has made numerous subtle jabs towards that since. One thing Gaga confirmed is that she rewrote 'I Wanna Be With U' to 'Dope' out of protest of the label wanting her to write and sing stuff she didn't want to. I can't recall the exact interview she said this in, but I think it was Howard Stern? Whatever it was, it wasn't because of Troy. Their split happened either the day of or the day before the album leaked, so that is not true at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,089 Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, Greg said: Princess Die is the biggest hint. She played it early on during the BTWB in 2012, and she'd confirmed in October 2011 she'd been writing for her next album. In December 2011 she confirmed there was a song on the new album that would feature Elton John. 'Death and decay of an icon' was definitely a theme she was exploring, but never ended up on the ARTPOP record. Princess Die and a song with Elton most certainly would not fit on ARTPOP, so that's the biggest hint that the direction of the album was changed. Gaga could have just changed her mind, but we don't know, and we know that Gaga struggled with single choices and creative decisions because Interscope wanted control over it, so it's a possibility. Gaga has made numerous subtle jabs towards that since. One thing Gaga confirmed is that she rewrote 'I Wanna Be With U' to 'Dope' out of protest of the label wanting her to write and sing stuff she didn't want to. I can't recall the exact interview she said this in, but I think it was Howard Stern? Whatever it was, it wasn't because of Troy. Their split happened either the day of or the day before the album leaked, so that is not true at all. But none of this is an actual confirmation that Interscope made her change her sound. Like you said, it could just have been Gaga that changed her mind. And as far as I know rumors are not facts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 ARTPOP pi$$ed off her label because it was a diss album about how greedy, hypocritical and 7ucked up the record industry is. Of course they wanted her to dismantle it. Of course they wanted her to bury her vision. Sexxx Dreams was butchered, as was Aura. Most of the songs that she wanted on the album never made it. But by excluding those songs off ARTPOP, those songs are probably now worth a fortune. Money that they wanted all along but will never get their piggy little hands on now, or ever. "Making money is art" - Warhol So even though ARTPOP was we know it was only the tip of the iceberg, it was still enough to sink the ship. Pop music has been in an abyss ever since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacify Him 9,073 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I was gonna be snappy if it were a question tag because the explanation you need is in the first reply but it was tagged "opinion" so... I think the whole album was about her being mad at her manager because it's so obvious if you listen to some of her tracks namely, Swine and ARTPOP. You'll get a similar impression through Dope and Mary Jane Holland. She is hinting at what really happened and it's up for us to speculate I’m getting on your nerves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvanas 5,768 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 As far as I remember it was around August 2012 and we had heard that she played the album for Interscope, and then, well, nothing happened for a year. So we all sort of assumed whatever she played was scrapped. She was pretty high and into trap at the time. "Who are we, if not slaves to this torment?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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