Teenage mum who poured bleach in newborn's mouth spared jail

[Evan Peters 10,776]

1 hour ago, Themysciran said:

None of you know the situation, could've been a rape baby; or she could've just been crazy. It's a horrible situation but don't pretend like it's something that happens all the time either. 

that's no excuse to pour bleach down its throat, what the ****.  

[Shadowcrest 2,487]

Just now, Evan Peters said:

that's no excuse to pour bleach down its throat, what the ****.  

of course it isn't, and i'm not excusing that; but I am saying we don't know the situation. Trauma does things to people. 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

14 minutes ago, Assarrai said:

I can't at some of you defending her, even if it was a "rape" baby or a baby she didn't want...it's not a Barbie doll, it's a living creature. She could've aborted the baby or put it for adoption if she couldn't handle it, only if it was a rape baby or else she should deal with the consequences of her own actions. Harming it after it's been delivered is a crime.

Why are you conflating justification for defense? She is certainly responsible but that doesn't necessarily imply that she did it with a clear state of mind nor with a premeditated intent to kill.

Again with the black and white issues. I'm glad lawyers exist because if people like you were in complete control of the judicial system, everyone would be sent to prison or even killed or something as opposed to mental rehabilitation.

[MonsterOfSpain 8,331]

1 hour ago, Clip said:

Exactly. I was thinking "what an evil person" until I read this. It could have been a baby she didn't want to or something like that

 

1 hour ago, Themysciran said:

I'm a dude and I couldn't live with a baby that was forced on me, you just never know the motivation behind things like this. 

[LebaneseDude 6,146]

4 minutes ago, Evan Peters said:

that's no excuse to pour bleach down its throat, what the ****.  

It's not an excuse, but you should not treat her as some evil person who doesn't deserve of some sympathy or understanding.

It's very hard for me given that I think this is a heinous act given that a child was hurt but objectivity is important in discussions about her.

[Morphine Prince 109,682]

What would push someone to do this?  

Once again a horrible story proves mental health is so important. 

I wan to believe she didn't actually do this out of pure evil  

[Shadowcrest 2,487]

1 minute ago, Morphine Prince said:

What would push someone to do this?  

Once again a horrible story proves mental health is so important. 

I wan to believe she didn't actually do this out of pure evil  

I would say the odds are that there's an ulterior motive. You never know though, I hope both of them come out of it healthy and okay. 

[lego 44,165]

aaand back to the ignore list.

 

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There goes that stupid argument. 

[Sizzily 14,571]

WTF at members trying to defend this crazy ****

I don't give a **** if it was a "rape baby" she could have had an abortion or put it up for adoption or something. But no, its much more logical to try to poison it. How stupid of us to assume the answer was anything other than kill it. 

[StarstruckIllusion 53,565]

Yeah, killing the baby was v unnecessary. She should have given it up for adoption or aborted it. Poor thing

I hope the mom is okay too tho. Killing something you love (or not)? A tragic decision nonetheless. She doesn't need to go to jail, she needs professional help first. 

[pink sushi 4,351]

6 hours ago, Themysciran said:

None of you know the situation, could've been a rape baby; or she could've just been crazy. It's a horrible situation but don't pretend like it's something that happens all the time either. 

 

6 hours ago, Themysciran said:

I'm a dude and I couldn't live with a baby that was forced on me, you just never know the motivation behind things like this. 

 

Not wanting the baby is no excuse to hurt it. She could have had an abortion or given the baby up for adoption if she really didn't want it.... 

[Shadowcrest 2,487]

Just now, pink sushi said:

 

 

Not wanting the baby is no excuse to hurt it. She could have had an abortion or given the baby up for adoption if she really didn't want it.... 

like I said, trauma does things to people. she clearly wasn't in a good state of mind. 

[2007 5,291]

5 hours ago, LebaneseDude said:

Why are you conflating justification for defense? She is certainly responsible but that doesn't necessarily imply that she did it with a clear state of mind nor with a premeditated intent to kill.

Again with the black and white issues. I'm glad lawyers exist because if people like you were in complete control of the judicial system, everyone would be sent to prison or even killed or something as opposed to mental rehabilitation.

Either way now it's clear that she isn't qualified to keep the baby.

And yeah thank god lawyers exist thats way her crazy ass got sentenced to a two year of supervision & a year of therapy. Mental. 

[PaperIz 7,354]

I lose more faith I'm humanity every time I log on here. I can't believe anyone could defend this girl. 

[Alphaz 7,969]

if she didn't want that baby, she can put it for adoption

I can't at you defending the mother for trying to kill the baby for whatever reason

you should get your mental health checked