is britney spears respected generally speaking?

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1 hour ago, ShockPop said:

If gaga smokes weed and has a kid she'd be a worthless mess and undeserving of her children. Anyone would.

And I've never defended Dr Luke in my life. I hate his music and think it's quite obvious he has a shady side.

 

If Britney wasn't Britney you'd say she was undeserving of her children at that time too.

You seem like you have very narrow view of the world. No offence. Just wondering if mother have a baby and drinks alcohol ocasionally, she's worthless mess too? 

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Just now, ShockPop said:

No it isn't.

It's like saying kids shouldn't eat heavily processed junk food with no nutritional value.

the consumption of food and music is not similar. only one of them have major physical implications on your health.

eating nothing but cheesy potatoes for 12 years isn't the same as only listening to britney spears.

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Just now, Emigrante said:

You seem like you have very narrow view of the world. No offence. Just wondering if mother have a baby and drinks alcohol ocasionally, she's worthless mess too? 

If she is an addict and gets absolutely wrecked around her kids, and if it makes her crazy and mentally unstable then of course.

Let's not pretend Britney occasionally smoked a blunt. She was a trainwreck.

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1 minute ago, Gianni Versace said:

the consumption of food and music is not similar. only one of them have major physical implications on your health.

eating nothing but cheesy potatoes for 12 years isn't the same as only listening to britney spears.

Playing with toys isn't similar either. Food and music both have massive effects on your emotions, and how you behave. They're actually very similar.

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3 minutes ago, ShockPop said:

If she is an addict and gets absolutely wrecked around her kids, and if it makes her crazy and mentally unstable then of course.

Let's not pretend Britney occasionally smoked a blunt. She was a trainwreck.

She was that's the point. You keep trying to discredit everything she's done, which is sad tbh. Unless YOU'VE gone through that she went through back then, then your points are completely invalid. Not everyone has thick skin.

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1 minute ago, ShockPop said:

Playing with toys isn't similar either. Food and music both have massive effects on your emotions, and how you behave. They're actually very similar.

if i eat raw fish and get sick it's not the same as listening to a "bad" record

to some extent, toys can affect your mental health, how you view the world, etc (see: barbie body dysmorphia etc)

anyways, this is besides the point, my point is:

you can't chastise people for enjoying britney's music

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2 minutes ago, Gaga is Mine said:

She was that's the point. You keep trying to discredit everything she's done, which is sad tbh. Unless YOU'VE gone through that she went through back then, then your points are completely invalid. Not everyone has thick skin.

a til it happens to you tea tbh

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I think a lot of the public still like her for guilty pleasure purposes but don't respect her as an artist and the music industry itself respects her for what she's achieved but maybe not necessarily her talent. As far as I can see, the public still remembers and loves (seriously or for a guilty pleasure) Baby One More Time, Toxic and Everytime. Maybe Me Against The Music and Womanizer too. I've heard covers of her work to this day. I know that some people consider In The Zone to be a great piece of pop art and her most artistically impressive and involved album. And the music industry thinks her achievements are commendable because, well, they're all about figures. But popstars definitely have a lot of respect for her because to be as big as she was at her peak is a big focus for them. There's different kinds of pop fame and "as big as Britney" is still something to aim for. Her albums sold a lot back in the day and even though not all her singles were massive hits, they've impacted pop culture massively and so many people know them.

What lets her down is her seeming lack of talent. It's a shame because as a kid, she could sing brilliantly but it was a voice not suited for pop music, so her vocal style was changed and it's like she never got it back. But she had a decent set of pipes on her to start with, she just was told to work against her voice. She can play piano, albeit not too often. And she can dance, at least, at her peak, she was a brilliant pop performer, back when pop videos were all about the dance routine. And she's always had an x factor about her. That's why she's stuck around and still remembered even after so much time out of the limelight. But not everyone knows this or sees this. Her not writing her songs was a big thing against her too. Nowadays, basically every popstar is writing their own stuff and those who don't stand out negatively. But that's hardly Britney's fault. That's just how things worked in 1998 and she was likely forced into it. And once you've had all your work written for you for so long, it's difficult to break free from that. Pop music operates so differently now. There's very few packaged, conveyer belt pop acts anymore. Most of them start out as independent acts and some even do somewhat of an internship, writing songs for other popstars and suchlike, before hitting the big time solo. Britney is a product of her time. It's unfair to judge her too harshly and base things on today's standards.

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1 minute ago, Gianni Versace said:

a til it happens to you tea tbh

Lmao YAS gurl you know it  

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1 minute ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I think a lot of the public still like her for guilty pleasure purposes but don't respect her as an artist and the music industry itself respects her for what she's achieved but maybe not necessarily her talent. As far as I can see, the public still remembers and loves (seriously or for a guilty pleasure) Baby One More Time, Toxic and Everytime. Maybe Me Against The Music and Womanizer too. I've heard covers of her work to this day. I know that some people consider In The Zone to be a great piece of pop art and her most artistically impressive and involved album. And the music industry thinks her achievements are commendable because, well, they're all about figures. But popstars definitely have a lot of respect for her because to be as big as she was at her peak is a big focus for them. There's different kinds of pop fame and "as big as Britney" is still something to aim for. Her albums sold a lot back in the day and even though not all her singles were massive hits, they've impacted pop culture massively and so many people know them.

What lets her down is her seeming lack of talent. It's a shame because as a kid, she could sing brilliantly but it was a voice not suited for pop music, so her vocal style was changed and it's like she never got it back. But she had a decent set of pipes on her to start with, she just was told to work against her voice. She can play piano, albeit not too often. And she can dance, at least, at her peak, she was a brilliant pop performer, back when pop videos were all about the dance routine. And she's always had an x factor about her. That's why she's stuck around and still remembered even after so much time out of the limelight. But not everyone knows this or sees this. Her not writing her songs was a big thing against her too. Nowadays, basically every popstar is writing their own stuff and those who don't stand out negatively. But that's hardly Britney's fault. That's just how things worked in 1998 and she was likely forced into it. And once you've had all your work written for you for so long, it's difficult to break free from that. Pop music operates so differently now. There's very few packaged, conveyer belt pop acts anymore. Most of them start out as independent acts and some even do somewhat of an internship, writing songs for other popstars and suchlike, before hitting the big time solo. Britney is a product of her time. It's unfair to judge her too harshly and base things on today's standards.

Britney does have some solo penned songs

Everytime, Someday, MonaLisa, etc

 

also, she has tons of co writing creds

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16 minutes ago, Baby Blue said:

Britney does have some solo penned songs

Everytime, Someday, MonaLisa, etc

 

also, she has tons of co writing creds

I know, but in general, she has a very small amount of that. Here's her contributions, not counting bonus tracks:

Baby One More Time - 0 songs.

Oops I Did It Again - 1 out of 12 songs.

Britney - 5 out of 12 songs.

In The Zone - 9 out of 13 songs.

Blackout - 2 out of 12 songs.

Circus - 3 out of 13 songs.

Femme Fatale - 0 songs.

Britney Jean - 10 out of 10 songs.

As you can see, she's had very little involvement most of the time. And while she wrote all those tracks on Britney Jean, she was so heavily supported that it's hard to say how big of a contribution it was.

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23 minutes ago, Gaga is Mine said:

She was that's the point. You keep trying to discredit everything she's done, which is sad tbh. Unless YOU'VE gone through that she went through back then, then your points are completely invalid. Not everyone has thick skin.

Why on earth would I need to experience her poor decision making in order to see how much of a mess she was?

That's Luke saying a doctor can't diagnose a disease unless they've had it before. Aka ridiculous.

There is no "discredit" because there is no "credit".

Britney Spears and Honey Boo Boo are one & the same. Pointless, talentless, managed by good business men to make money. Turns out music has more money in it. Well, "music", at least.

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31 minutes ago, ShockPop said:

Why on earth would I need to experience her poor decision making in order to see how much of a mess she was?

That's Luke saying a doctor can't diagnose a disease unless they've had it before. Aka ridiculous.

There is no "discredit" because there is no "credit".

Britney Spears and Honey Boo Boo are one & the same. Pointless, talentless, managed by good business men to make money. Turns out music has more money in it. Well, "music", at least.

You sound really ignorant  

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no.

she is a joke.

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