Emails Show Hillary Clinton Aides Celebrating F-15 Sales to Saudi Arabia

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1 minute ago, Florin said:

No matter the president, US wont turn its back to its best partner in the region.

Weapons proliferation & taking money for your personal foundation =/= turning your back on a central figure in a region.

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14 hours ago, SecretWeapon said:

Yes, "seems". We'll only know for sure if he means his words if he becomes president, however his past behavior is consistent with his words. Meanwhile we have Hillary, who seems unable to keep the same opinion in spam of a week, has videotaped evidence of her lying, and whose latest achievement is managing over 99% of her state job in an illegal-ish private server.

Indeed, they arent, but you still havent found me anything that justified selling a country with a long string of crimes against humanity war weapons. When you find that "something" which USA so sorely needed and the ONLY nation who had it and was willing to negotiate was Saudi Arabi, to the point of selling anything they wanted (in this case, war weapons) I'll recede my point, but until then all we have are piles of dead yemenites killed with weapons she got sold and no indication she did it for anything else than donations to her fundraiser.

Great news indeed

 

That country with its long problems is the no 1 partner in the region for US. Thats not Hillary fault.

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3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Weapons proliferation & taking money for your personal foundation =/= turning your back on a central figure in a region.

Hillary surely has her faults, but some of the attacks against her are absurd, because it doesnt matter who would have been in her place, the sales would have still go on.

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19 minutes ago, Florin said:

Hillary surely has her faults, but some of the attacks against her are absurd, because it doesnt matter who would have been in her place, the sales would have still go on.

How do you know that? Do you have the ability to trascend space-time and peak into other timelines where she wasnt Secretary of State? lmao.

What those of us without you "special" abilities do know is that she made selling SA weapons a "top priority". It's not "Oh she just signed papers, you're taking this too seriously", she pushed for this and now Yemen is being bombarded.

34 minutes ago, Florin said:

That country with its long problems is the no 1 partner in the region for US. Thats not Hillary fault.

No but selling them war weapons is. Deal with it lol.

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5 minutes ago, SecretWeapon said:

How do you know that? Do you have the ability to trascend space-time and peak into other timelines where she wasnt Secretary of State? lmao.

What those of us without you "special" abilities do know is that she made selling SA weapons a "top priority". It's not "Oh she just signed papers, you're taking this too seriously", she pushed for this and now Yemen is being bombarded.

No but selling them war weapons is. Deal with it lol.

Its common sense. As long as Saudi Arabia remains the no 1 partner in the region, US will fully cooperate with them. Its stupid to think otherwise. And if US would have not sold them the weapons, be sure that other very democratic countries would have jump to the opportunity.

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Just now, Florin said:

Its common sense. As long as Saudi Arabia remains the no 1 partner in the region, US will fully cooperate with them. Its stupid to think otherwise. And if US would have not sold them the weapons, be sure that other very democratic countries would have jump to the opportunity.

I think I understand your perspective.

If you're totally fine with the way things are done now, the status quo, a continuation of the same cycles for decade after decade and beyond: then I agree: her and her actions fall into your world view.

They don't fall into mine and I think we can do better. The world has made positive pivots in leadership and direction in the past, and I hope we are able to now. When MLK gave his "I Have a Dream" speech, it was met with hope and support from some, and condescension and derision from many others.

I expect more from us and I expect more from humans and that's the source from which my political support comes from today.

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1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

I think I understand your perspective.

If you're totally fine with the way things are done now, the status quo, a continuation of the same cycles for decade after decade and beyond: then I agree: her and her actions fall into your world view.

They don't fall into mine and I think we can do better. The world has made positive pivots in leadership and direction in the past, and I hope we are able to now. When MLK gave his "I Have a Dream" speech, it was met with hope and support from some, and condescension and derision from many others.

I expect more from us and I expect more from humans and that's the source from which my political support comes from today.

I respect your perspective. I just think in general that it is very sad how some people try to demonise Hillary for some things that 99,9999% of people would have done, things that 99,9999% will remain the same no matter what democratic candidate will win.

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22 hours ago, manicholic said:

Can't with this perpetual never-ending anti-Hillary bias in the media

You say that, and yet they still suck her **** like the head was made of gold or something. 

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8 minutes ago, Florin said:

I respect your perspective. I just think in general that it is very sad how some people try to demonise Hillary for some things that 99,9999% of people would have done, things that 99,9999% will remain the same no matter what democratic candidate will win.

so you'd rather vote for the one who has already shown that she will keep things the same way rather than the one who MAY change them because "things will remain the same" anyway? Why vote at all then?

Dear Lord, has logic abandoned the brains of your children? Give us eyes, give us eyes

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Just now, SecretWeapon said:

so you'd rather vote for the one who has already shown that she will keep things the same way rather than the one who MAY change them because "things will remain the same" anyway? Why vote at all then?

Dear Lord, has logic abandoned the brains of your children? Give us eyes, give us eyes

Pls try to be less bombastic.

I like that you wrote MAY and not may. You may be right, but you see. This is the wrong subject to talk about your perspective, because this business transaction has zero impact on you and similar business transactions will continue whoever is president. This just show that Hillary is a target and that the overused CHANGE in political campaigns remains just the perfect slogan.

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4 minutes ago, Florin said:

Pls try to be less bombastic.

I like that you wrote MAY and not may. You may be right, but you see. This is the wrong subject to talk about your perspective, because this business transaction has zero impact on you and similar business transactions will continue whoever is president. This just show that Hillary is a target and that the overused CHANGE in political campaigns remains just the perfect slogan.

Yes i wrote may. As i already stated the only way to know for sure is if Bernie becomes president but his actions and words so far have been consistent.

Besides, if he wins and he changes stuff, thats good. If he doesnt apparently thats good for you. In both cases, Hillary is just redundant.

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Just now, SecretWeapon said:

Yes i wrote may. As i already stated the only way to know for sure is if Bernie becomes president but his actions and words so far have been consistent.

Besides, if he wins and he changes stuff, thats good. If he doesnt apparently thats good for you. In both cases, Hillary is just redundant.

Thats nice, but I return to the subject here and the reactions almost of hate for Hillary that this subject brought. Is Saudi Arabia a priority in the Bernie campaign? If not, why using this as a chance to show that Bernie is better than Hillary? Are the other reasons to vote for him as CONSISTENT as this one?

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13 minutes ago, Florin said:

Thats nice, but I return to the subject here and the reactions almost of hate for Hillary that this subject brought. Is Saudi Arabia a priority in the Bernie campaign? If not, why using this as a chance to show that Bernie is better than Hillary? Are the other reasons to vote for him as CONSISTENT as this one?

it's less "X is better than Hillary" and more "Hillary is worse than the others (Bernie just happens to the be the other relevant democratic candidate)"

Funny you bring up CONSISTENCE when one of the current TT is #whichHillary :proud:

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Just now, SecretWeapon said:

it's less "X is better than Hillary" and more "Hillary is worse than the others (Bernie just happens to the be the other relevant democratic candidate)"

Funny you bring up CONSISTENCE when one of the current TT is #whichHillary :proud:

Sure concistence and twitter has everything in common. Lets go back to the consistent Bernie.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wayne-anderson/the-big-bernie-sanders-li_b_9097284.html

http://time.com/4089946/bernie-sanders-gay-marriage/

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Florin said:

Sure concistence and twitter has everything in common. Lets go back to the consistent Bernie.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wayne-anderson/the-big-bernie-sanders-li_b_9097284.html

http://time.com/4089946/bernie-sanders-gay-marriage/

While Sanders generally opposed measures to ban gay marriage, he did not speak out in favor of it until 2009. That’s still ahead of Clinton, who released a YouTube video announcing her support in 2013

 

#whichHillary

 

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I absolutely adore how you had to turn this into a Hillary vs Bernie thing and ignore the point of the thread, which is Hillary selling war weapons which are killing yemenites rn. You can keep saying that "whoever was in her place would have done it" but sadly it's less based than Hillary consistency