Bernie or Hillary? - Issue: Lady Gaga

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If Bernie wins, looks like Gaga's gonna have to add popstar/songwriter/dancer and part time dishwasher at papa Joes restaurants to her resume 

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15 hours ago, FATCAT said:

Can't believe Gaga supports Hillary, but it makes sense. Gaga was born into a relatively well off family and she's a lot more well off now. She's worried about those Bernie tax equality.

I dont call it equality

 

if u tax rich too much and kill investment, a weaker economy affects middle class ppl the most when labor competition dries up

 

right winged politics ideals arent for the sake of just benefiting the rich, its to benefit everyone

 

it does depend by how much. Taxing the rich more than everyone else can be beneficial u just cant take it to an extreme

 

what are the rates Bernie proposes?

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50 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

There are plenty of users here who do not like Clinton as a politician. There are also plenty of conservatives on this forum. 

This forum is predominantly composed of the LGBT community, yes, but I've seen plenty questioning her on this issue and many others. 

Also, many people aren't one-issue voters. 

Don't assume people are one issue voters first off.

Secondly, yes it is dominant that we are LGBTQ so why would we embrace a Reoublican (homophobic) candidate? Or more so embrace any member of the community who is against the front runner who is pro-gay everything? 

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37 minutes ago, Economy said:

I dont call it equality

 

if u tax rich too much and kill investment, a weaker economy affects middle class ppl the most when labor competition dries up

 

right winged politics ideals arent for the sake of just benefiting the rich, its to benefit everyone

 

it does depend by how much. Taxing the rich more than everyone else can be beneficial u just cant take it to an extreme

 

what are the rates Bernie proposes?

The wealthy 1% that we need to tax NEED to be taxed highest because they live like angels and can AFFORD IT. 

 

And no, sweetie Reaganomics failed. Trickle down- make people who are rich richer so they can open up jobs, never works. 

It didn't work in the '80s or 00's it's not working now. 

The middle class suffers the worst when the rich get tax cuts and the poor get screwed for the most money. 

 

Republicans only circulate their money through companies, Wall Street, and other corrupt conservative corporations and make themselves richer. Take **** Chenney for example who urged Bush to start a war in Iraq only so that he could establish dominance over a county who wasn't at fault nor did they have weapons of mass destruction, and so he could rebuild their city with HIS company!!! Profit!!!!

 

Republicans want to deport Mexicans and make them pay for the wall that conservatives want to build. 

 

Republicans want to overturn the Supreme Court's decision for Same-Sex Marriage.

 

Republican's want to defund Planned Parenthood for women and overturn RoeVWade

Republicans want to continue with wars.

Republicans want to make Mulims wear IDs.

 

 

Should I go on? Y'all are KKK Nazis straight up. 

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1 hour ago, BoysBoysBoys652 said:

The wealthy 1% that we need to tax NEED to be taxed highest because they live like angels and can AFFORD IT. 

 

And no, sweetie Reaganomics failed. Trickle down- make people who are rich richer so they can open up jobs, never works. 

It didn't work in the '80s or 00's it's not working now. 

The middle class suffers the worst when the rich get tax cuts and the poor get screwed for the most money. 

 

Republicans only circulate their money through companies, Wall Street, and other corrupt conservative corporations and make themselves richer. Take **** Chenney for example who urged Bush to start a war in Iraq only so that he could establish dominance over a county who wasn't at fault nor did they have weapons of mass destruction, and so he could rebuild their city with HIS company!!! Profit!!!!

 

Republicans want to deport Mexicans and make them pay for the wall that conservatives want to build. 

 

Republicans want to overturn the Supreme Court's decision for Same-Sex Marriage.

 

Republican's want to defund Planned Parenthood for women and overturn RoeVWade

Republicans want to continue with wars.

Republicans want to make Mulims wear IDs.

 

 

Should I go on? Y'all are KKK Nazis straight up. 

Whether or not they can afford it isnt what i was putting into question.

 

and dont say "now" as if the US has righr winged economics. Its been under democrats for nearly 2 full terms and taxes on wealthy have increased

 

Anyways my theory is that it isnt as black and white as right wing vs left. It also depends on how you execute it...

 

Left winged politics can work but it requires a very competent government to pull it off

 

you create a bigger Government with left winged politics. They make more decisions on business with more regulation, and higher taxation and spending means they decide how to spend more of the Nations wealth

 

If a Countries Government is dysfunctional, politically gridlocked and incompetent, left wing politics never work and ur better off letting private sector do its thing

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1 hour ago, BoysBoysBoys652 said:

Don't assume people are one issue voters first off.

Secondly, yes it is dominant that we are LGBTQ so why would we embrace a Reoublican (homophobic) candidate? Or more so embrace any member of the community who is against the front runner who is pro-gay everything? 

Well, precisely because some people question politician's motives and beliefs. Also because they aren't one issue voters. They may agree with a candidate on many other things. 

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42 minutes ago, Economy said:

Whether or not they can afford it isnt what i was putting into question.

 

and dont say "now" as if the US has righr winged economics. Its been under democrats for nearly 2 full terms and taxes on wealthy have increased

 

Anyways my theory is that it isnt as black and white as right wing vs left. It also depends on how you execute it...

 

Left winged politics can work but it requires a very competent government to pull it off

 

you create a bigger Government with left winged politics. They make more decisions on business with more regulation, and higher taxation and spending means they decide how to spend more of the Nations wealth

 

If a Countries Government is dysfunctional, politically gridlocked and incompetent, left wing politics never work and ur better off letting private sector do its thing

Makes no sense. You "want small government?" Small enough to fit in a woman's vagina? Tell her what her reproductive rights are? You make taxing wealthy people sound bad while the other 99% of Americans suffer while taking away basic human rights isn't massive government take over? That's not big government. Republicans want a gargantuan government then lol

 

honey just stop embarrassing yourself. You don't know anything about government. Obama has tripled jobs and pulled us out of a recession, passed a lily led better act, is the first sitting president to support gay marriage and no doubedlty helped make it happen in Supreme Court. Ended two wars and is making plans to help veterans receive more money instead of being hungry and homeless.

 

what are republicans trying to do expect make guns attainable to kids and letting rape victims suffer? Lol

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8 hours ago, BoysBoysBoys652 said:

Makes no sense. You "want small government?" Small enough to fit in a woman's vagina? Tell her what her reproductive rights are? You make taxing wealthy people sound bad while the other 99% of Americans suffer while taking away basic human rights isn't massive government take over? That's not big government. Republicans want a gargantuan government then lol

 

honey just stop embarrassing yourself. You don't know anything about government. Obama has tripled jobs and pulled us out of a recession, passed a lily led better act, is the first sitting president to support gay marriage and no doubedlty helped make it happen in Supreme Court. Ended two wars and is making plans to help veterans receive more money instead of being hungry and homeless.

 

what are republicans trying to do expect make guns attainable to kids and letting rape victims suffer? Lol

Of course he ended a recession. All recessions end. In fact few recessions ever last more than (6 consecutive quarters 18 months) and once macro-economic imbalances correct, GDP and jobs grow again almost every time.

 

additionally your bringing up stuff that has nothing to do with what i was talking about. I was talking about economics. Your bringing up other social stuff that has nothing to do with it. I never said i agree with republicans social stances. Additionally I never said i agree to the extent republicans go to even on economics

 

i was talking about left vs right wing on a spectrum and originally it was about Hilary vs Bernie i never even mentioned Republicans

 

stop telling me to "stop embarrasing myself" because you do not even understand the points im trying to make because half the stuff your criticizing me on have absolutely nothing to do with my points!!!

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22 hours ago, BoysBoysBoys652 said:

Yes she is a good candidate, Gaga is voting for her. She supports gay rights, women's rights, equal pay, and she's against war. 

Except she supported DOMA and DADT until a few years ago and supported the war in Iraq

Then she found out she can get more of the left vote by flip flopping on big issues where as Bernie has been fighting for civil rights, class equality, and peace/diplomacy for 40+ years. Hillary's only the right choice if it comes down to her and Cruz or Trump. Otherwise, Bernie all the way. No question.

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5 hours ago, PartySick said:

Except she supported DOMA and DADT until a few years ago and supported the war in Iraq

Then she found out she can get more of the left vote by flip flopping on big issues where as Bernie has been fighting for civil rights, class equality, and peace/diplomacy for 40+ years. Hillary's only the right choice if it comes down to her and Cruz or Trump. Otherwise, Bernie all the way. No question.

No sweetheart your thinking of Mitt Romney and Bernie is a smear campaign. He's barely been a Jr. Senator for years and accomplished really nothing. And she's been pro-gay this entire election and WILL protect the Supreme Court's ruling dumbass. 

She never supported the IRAQ war, she just made ONE vote back in 2001. That's was over 15 years ago, you're bringing up opinions that don't even exist, but that's all Bernie supporters have.... The past. Last time I checked all the Republicans still currently support the war and Bernie is just a spoiler for the Democratic Party, this isn't the first time he's ruined a political party nomination!

She's a left position, so stop being misinformed. Bernie will not get the nomination and you can he will endorse her like a good liberal, it will be his only true contribution as a Junior Senator with almost no accomplishments. 

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6 hours ago, Economy said:

Of course he ended a recession. All recessions end. In fact few recessions ever last more than (6 consecutive quarters 18 months) and once macro-economic imbalances correct, GDP and jobs grow again almost every time.

 

additionally your bringing up stuff that has nothing to do with what i was talking about. I was talking about economics. Your bringing up other social stuff that has nothing to do with it. I never said i agree with republicans social stances. Additionally I never said i agree to the extent republicans go to even on economics

 

i was talking about left vs right wing on a spectrum and originally it was about Hilary vs Bernie i never even mentioned Republicans

 

stop telling me to "stop embarrasing myself" because you do not even understand the points im trying to make because half the stuff your criticizing me on have absolutely nothing to do with my points!!!

Literally everything does, but it's okay sweetie not all of us are born with love in our hearts. It's cool that the economy and poor people and the middle class and gays mean nothing to you. People are born Sociopaths it's cool, look at Nazi Germany. I mean the KKK came out to support Trump and that's obviously who u are.

 

kill yourself.

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10 minutes ago, BoysBoysBoys652 said:

Literally everything does, but it's okay sweetie not all of us are born with love in our hearts. It's cool that the economy and poor people and the middle class and gays mean nothing to you. People are born Sociopaths it's cool, look at Nazi Germany. I mean the KKK came out to support Trump and that's obviously who u are.

 

kill yourself.

Clearly not.  What a disgusting thing to say.  Reported to say the least.  

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On 23 February 2016 at 2:50 AM, BoysBoysBoys652 said:

This is fake and doesn't represent what their actual opinions are. Stop smearing a perfectly good candidate who's fighting for gay rights.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Bernie has supported gay rights his whole political career. Hillary was against gay marriage, its only recently she's changed her views. 

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4 hours ago, BoysBoysBoys652 said:

Literally everything does, but it's okay sweetie not all of us are born with love in our hearts. It's cool that the economy and poor people and the middle class and gays mean nothing to you. People are born Sociopaths it's cool, look at Nazi Germany. I mean the KKK came out to support Trump and that's obviously who u are.

 

kill yourself.

Now im just trying to figure out if ur a troll

 

of course i care for gay rights seeing as im one of them

 

and of course i care about middle class seeing as im one of ghem also

 

please calm ur tits. Ur snapping at nothing  

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I can't believe this thread turned into a fight about politics